Champions League 2011/12

The big club bias happens all the time, and to be honest it's becoming a joke.

Over the last two months in the Premier League for example, the bottom clubs have been absolutely shat on by the so called 'elite refs'. I have a big problem with this small pool of elite refs who are supposed to be the best, familiarity breeds contempt and not good refeering in my book.

The refs may come into the league calling it down the line, but the referee's are on an ego trip after a while, and the Sky camera's only inflate the problem. I could name four or five in particular who adore the limelight. Who's to say that the Premier League refs are the best anyway? The refs should all go into a big league pool, and drawn out randomly every week. Manchester United one week, Colchester the next! The 'elite' way has failed once the refs start calling Mr. Rooney Wayne, and Mr Cole Ashley! This first name smooching needs to stop. Their rubbish decisions for the top sides will ultimately cost a manager his job and get his side relegated, and it won't be long before a club takes a pathetically biased refeering performance to court. I'm thinking Ashley Young's recent diving performance, Andy Carroll diving, lots of other top players diving; I'm thinking Shaun Derry not getting his card rescinded etc etc!

The referee and officials last night were fabulous I thought. Drogba perhaps should have had a telling off much earlier for his antics but it's about time the officials started paying close attention to the 'dark arts' of Barcelona too.

As for the entertainment factor someone mentioned in here, as I have said before, I can fully appreciate the way Barcelona play. It is admirable that they play football the ultimate way I suppose. However, it is not for me. I much rather a team have chinks in it's armour, be more direct and fast. Give me Madrid any day of the week for example.

@ ALBICELESTE2010

I'm 30 fella, and watch my fair share of games, in most leagues. When I was younger I was always a backer of Barcelona, during the Stoichkov (sp), Figo, Enrique, Laudrup years just to name a few. Back then Barce where the underdogs a lot of the seasons, and Real were the glory boys. Now it's different. I've never liked being a follower of a team that is in the ascendency, that suddenly has a million and one noob followers with Messi on their little replica shirts, so now, for a change I hope Real come out on top. And like I said, I prefer faster, more direct football.

Like someone said here, what you get essentially with a Barcelona game is 70% possession and an endless amount of passing in the opposition half. So yes lol, it is enough to send me to sleep! That's not to say I don't appreciate them as a team or group of individuals. I do however think weak willed refs give into them too easily however.
 
My post was all about consistency Bebo. Chelsea have consistently been there for years now. They deserve silverware, IMO they were more consistent than Arsenal...but you will not agree of course.
 
Cshopland, you should try and become a referee. Your criticism at the top referee is a litle bit easy (if not simplistic). They have a very difficult job and deserve some credit.
 
This happens to big teams in all the leagues due to their power and media attention. A mistake against a big side could destroy a ref and refs are already pressured enough. If Milan lose the scudetto, they will blame that ref and linesman against Juve for life and every Milan fan will want to criticize him in the street.

It disgusts me when the bias to big teams happens as it's very unfair. It happened with Milan this season and when it does I start rooting for the other team. It's just the way things are in this world.

And again, it's easy to criticize a ref when we see a slow motion replay from the most accurate angle two or three times. The Marcelo tackle with Muller seemed a straight red from one angle and a no contact from another. Now take that decision when you have 12 players nagging on your shoulders.
 
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Zeem said:
And again, it's easy to criticize a ref when we see a slow motion replay from the most accurate angle two or three times. The Marcelo tackle with Muller seemed a straight red from one angle and a no contact from another. Now take that decision when you have 12 players nagging on your shoulders.
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I agree with you basically. It takes some guts to sent a player off when 12 players are nagging on your shoulders. IMO you choose a rather bad example, wether marcelo made contact are not is irrelevant, he never went for the ball, bad to injure Muller. That is always a red imo, but i must say that i'm not sure the ref saw it. This is an example were a post factum ban should be given...
 
gerd said:
My post was all about consistency Bebo. Chelsea have consistently been there for years now. They deserve silverware, IMO they were more consistent than Arsenal...but you will not agree of course.
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That's my point, no one deserve anything unless you win. Ok you hit me in the gut w/ Arsenal there no worries I'll back off a bit :LOL: although Wenger has been in the CL over 15years he deserve nothing until he wins or maybe coach Barça ...
 
More you want moooore! You sir spoke out of content.....the only sneaky part of Chelsea is Terry n that's off the pitch antics. Although president Clinton said "Obama in the white house, that's fairytale stuff" So your words could be spot on! Im with Clinton 'fairytale' for chels
 
Wow despite the lead Chelsea have from first game and having NOT even conceded an away goal, they are HEAVY underdogs to advance to final.

I gotta say I'm a bit surprised at the odds.

Currently the odds are 2.9 for Chelsea to advance meaning for every $10 you invest, you get back $29 if Chelsea sneak into the final.

I myself do think Barca will probably win by 2 or 3 and so am staying away but surely they can't be that big of a favourite. I mean Chelsea has the advantage at the moment AND unlike Bayern hasn't conceded a crucial away goal.

Anyway, let's see what happens. Lot of players on yellow for Chelsea as well who can miss the final so they have to be careful.

Ashley Cole, Ramires, Ivanovic, Meireles and I think there's one more.

No Ashley Cole in final, means even less chance for Chelsea to win it though they'd be underdogs there too anyway even if they get past tonight.
 
Wow they shouldn't have put him back out there. Not sure what that's about. He was unresponsive for a few moments, stiff and groggy.
 
Subbed off now, I agree any chance of a concussion he should immediately get taken off - another head knock could be really serious in that state.

Anyway, off now for Alves.

Chelsea unsurprisingly defending super deep, but to be honest Barca have barely created a chance.
 
Flaw3d Genius said:
Barcelona diving bastards yet again, no wonder people are starting to really dislike them.
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Please, I dislike it as much as anyone but that's a red.

Although, so far in 3 fouls Sanchez has rolled a complete 6 times. Maybe he's going for a dozen?

(and I have to say, it worked - first a yellow for Mikel, then the red)
 
beachryan said:
Please, I dislike it as much as anyone but that's a red.

Although, so far in 3 fouls Sanchez has rolled a complete 6 times. Maybe he's going for a dozen?

(and I have to say, it worked - first a yellow for Mikel, then the red)
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My two year old son could of took that and kept standing, Barcelona players are are big girl blouses that cheat every big game. Their football is amazing but their attitude is disgusting and brings the game into disrepute.
 
Can't see Chelsea doing anything with that goal, but it's a cracking finish.

Think the red card was a little harsh, but I don't really have any sympathy with Terry, players will give little cheap shots like that all the time, but that was blatant as you like and especially in this game where the pressure is so intense.
 
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Flaw3d Genius said:
My two year old son could of took that and kept standing, Barcelona players are are big girl blouses that cheat every big game. Their football is amazing but their attitude is disgusting and brings the game into disrepute.
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Exactly. Barcelona are a disgrace these days. Should Terry have done what he did? No. Did it warrant Sanchez rolling around like a big f'kin Jessy? No. I'm no fan of Terry, I hate the guy, but when players are getting sent off for that, when up and down the country every Saturday afternoon football is played like a man's game, then there's something wrong with the direction football is heading.

If it wasn't for the exciting second half finish which we may have, I'd be turning this off. Football these days, for me anyway, is such a turn off, played by little boys and whiners. They all need to man up, and grow a pair. Personally, I've had it with Barcelona. Best team in the world? Yes. Best team ever? Yes. But that doesn't mean jack shit to me if their credibility is in constant question.
 
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