Champions League 2011/12

Ok, that's foul, Nesta holds on is shirt. However, from now on, if the ref wants to keep his coherency, he has to appoint EVERY single contact in the box.
 
Now to the letter of the law, it was a penalty. Don't know what Nesta was doing given his abundance of experience, idiotic.

However, how many times a year does a penalty get given for shirt pulling?

I can remember one from earlier this season in the Prem, but apart from that I can't remember any in a long time, and I watch a fair amount of football (plus highlights from the major leagues). They just never seem to give them.
 
The_Special_One said:
Ok, that's foul, Nesta holds on is shirt. However, from now on, if the ref wants to keep his coherency, he has to appoint EVERY single contact in the box.
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i hope he has the guts to do that. I want every ref to give those penalties. Most will call this a light penalty, for me it is a penalty. Let's see what happens is Milan get a corner.

It's not over yet, Stef...
 
It's a penalty, but what grinds is the sheer inconsistency of it.

Yes, Nesta is fouling Busquets (I think). But what exactly was Puyol doing? As far as I can tell he sets a pick and then tackles Nesta, facing away from the ball? Is that not a foul?

If Milan get a corner in the second half, it should be a penalty. Because every Barca player will have a handful of shirt of every Milan player. That's how it works.

Perhaps the differnce is Barca are more, shall we say, gravitationally challenged than others?
 
Mascherano just brought Ibra down in the box without touching the ball, then Alves just blocked off Robinho without touching the ball.

Penalty? Nah, they're Barca.
 
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gerd said:
i hope he has the guts to do that. I want every ref to give those penalties. Most will call this a light penalty, for me it is a penalty. Let's see what happens is Milan get a corner.

It's not over yet, Stef...
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Its all about confidence.... That penalty took it away from us and gave the barca players calm and confidence.
 
There's no question in my mind that Barcelona get favouritism from the officials, as if they need any extra help. I've grown to detest Barce each and every season from when they used to be my favourite Spanish team in the Figo days.
 
ccshopland said:
There's no question in my mind that Barcelona get favouritism from the officials, as if they need any extra help. I've grown to detest Barce each and every season from when they used to be my favourite Spanish team in the Figo days.
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I second this post.
 
Those UEFA refs surely know how to spoil what was a great game :YAWN:

Dodgy penalties both of them. You can accept the first one on Messi, but that 2nd one was just too much for me. I felt like turning off the telly. Of course the ref will never keep consistency. That was a one-off, he singled out Nesta's actions and treated it differently. That's a moment inside the box that is the most trivial stuff in a football match. And to tell the whole story, Nesta pulls Busquets (who can fall down with a whisper, BTW) while Puyol was manhandling Nesta. This kind of fracas you see going unnoticed every single match. But not against Barça at the Camp Nou.

Again Barcelona are benefited. This is getting old. I mean, I like the team, always a pleasure to watch, but they don't need help from the refs to win stuff, they're the last team that would need that. It kind of takes the brilliance out of their performance too.

I know for sure I won't live to see the day Arsenal gets a penalty like that one. Chances are the player in Busquets' position would be booked for diving and Wenger would get a 3 match ban before he could even think of an insult.

Cheers, UEFA. Bunch of fucking tools.
 
ccshopland said:
There's no question in my mind that Barcelona get favouritism from the officials, as if they need any extra help. I've grown to detest Barce each and every season from when they used to be my favourite Spanish team in the Figo days.
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same here , i also love team after figo , with rivaldo , kulivert , overmars etc but now i hate them ,

they go after refere as dogs when someone keep piece of meet in his heand !

was great 1st half but refere broke it with that penalty , credits to him and uefa ;)
 
I didn't see any of you complaining in the first leg when there were two penaltys that the ref denied Barcelona.

I guess being anti-Barça is the cool thing to do these days...
 
No matter how many shots and posession Barca had, I can't help but feel it was unfair that the referee gave that 2nd penalty. In my eyes it wasn't a deserved victory and now I've lost a lot of respect for Puyol. In the 91st minute he sprinted from his own half to our box to complain to the ref... He then pretends he's getting assaulted by our players.

Hats off to Dani Alves though, thought he was immense and fair... Unlike players like Mascherano who has always been that style of irritating player.

Losing in this way really removes from my perception of Barca being the best team.
 
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airjoca said:
I didn't see any of you complaining in the first leg when there were two penaltys that the ref denied Barcelona.

I guess being anti-Barça is the cool thing to do these days...
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Sorry mate, but in the first leg that call was far more 50/50 than this leg, and it doesn't make it any correct the way it happened. Abbiati was clearly going for the ball and Sanchez was barely going to make it. Shirt pulling happens every single game, and Puyol charged right into Nesta too.

The away team gets an equaliser and changes the momentum of the game.... you don't give such a soft penalty off a CORNER KICK in a game where you're not going to blow many fouls. This completely ruins the momentum and makes the already advantageous home team triple their chances of winning.
 
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It's funny to watch those Sky Sports pundits try to make out whether it was a fair call or not. I guess the answer is, in UEFA's eyes, it is a penalty if it is for Barcelona at home.

Just watch Busquets shouting to the ref, "look he's pulling me, I'm gonna fall... I'm going down, going down now!" :P
It was obvious Busquets would go down anyway
 
I hope Chelsea won't have to face the same referee problem like they did on 2008 against Barca. I wouldn't argue if we lose it fairly.
 
Rentboy said:
Just watch Busquets shouting to the ref, "look he's pulling me, I'm gonna fall... I'm going down, going down now!" :P
It was obvious Busquets would go down anyway
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The thing that riles me is that the incentives are clear. If you dive and act like a f*cking c*nt (the Busquets method of football) you WILL benefit. That's what annoys me.

Messi was great today, unplayable - but also fair and sporting. If I ever had the chance to play a charity match against Busquets I'd want to break his legs, and I've never hurt anyone in my life. Just because of the damage he does to the game I love.
 
Mehtab said:
I hope Chelsea won't have to face the same referee problem like they did on 2008 against Barca. I wouldn't argue if we lose it fairly.
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That was the second most biased piece of officiating I've ever seen (first = S. Korea v Italy at the WC). I'm pretty sure that Norwegian ref never got another big match did he?

Shock.
 
Funny how selective memory strikes again to the usual haters. But when a team shoots 24 times at target in the overall round and the opponents shoots... 5, then all those "they didnt deserve it" get ridiculous.

Theres people even discussing the first penalty, is that a joke? It cant be more blatant than that. Anyway, in 3 dubious plays in the Milan area in overall round one benefited us and 2 didnt. I see how refs are helping us all the time.

Ambrosini ended the game without a single card, despite having hold Cesc shirt 3 times in the first half and a dirty tackle to Tiago. The ref was also benefiting us there? And Nesta doing a very dirty tackle with the tuds in front and no second card? Was the ref again helping us?

Milan was brave and had good moments, but had only two shots at goal. Barcelona dominated thorugh all of the round and had plenty of chances to have an even better score. But that's something that people seems to be ignoring.

As Airjoca says, it's the trend to be a Barcelona hater.

Milanista, I hope it's only a matter of sour grapes, because some of the things you say are clearly biased. Puyol did the same that Nocerino, Nesta and Ambrosini did during the whole first half. Mexes spent more time kicking players than kicking the ball, so please try to be objective. Both teams played with a lot of intensity, but you cant deny that Barcelona was all the time dominating the game and deserved to gothrough overall considering the chances.

Puyol pretending to be assaulted? What are you smoking? He goes there to ask for a yellow for Mexes after the french kicked a Barcelona player from behind and no ball for the third time. I saw Ambrosini yelling to the ref all the match. You didn't? And Mascherano is as irritating as all good DMFs.

Try to concentrate on what Milan did better, that was a lot, and what did bad, that was also a lot. I respect Milan and respect the great players they have, and as I said I enjoy these clashes no matter the result. I was literally enjoying Ibra opening the second plays all the time, Nesta denying the left foot to Messi and a thousand of other details.
But hey, I admit it, we are paying the refs to simulate they go against us and thengive us a,pen. And we eat babies for dinner. Mine was a bit raw tonight, but that's how I like them!

PS. I wouldnt have given that second penalty, but in Milan I would have awarded one to Barcelona. You cant just justify everything based solely on a single action.
 
beachryan said:
That was the second most biased piece of officiating I've ever seen (first = S. Korea v Italy at the WC). I'm pretty sure that Norwegian ref never got another big match did he?

Shock.
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Well he had quit afterwards. I don't know why referee is so biased when it comes against Barca.
 
drekkard said:
Funny how selective memory strikes again to the usual haters. But when a team shoots 24 times at target in the overall round and the opponents shoots... 5, then all those "they didnt deserve it" get ridiculous.
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I don't think this is always the best way to measure a match. You can have all the possession and chances, but it doesn't always mean you're going to win or score. Posession seems to be a very Barca-mentality, which isn't a bad thing. People like Luis Enrique always talk about possession. Roma get 70%+ possession with over 10 shots on goal, but lose 2-0.

Theres people even discussing the first penalty, is that a joke? It cant be more blatant than that. Anyway, in 3 dubious plays in the Milan area in overall round one benefited us and 2 didnt. I see how refs are helping us all the time.
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Agree, first was definitely a penalty. The worst thing about the 2nd was that the match was overall quite open, with little calls, yet he calls that from a corner kick which imo is ridiculous. I still think the Sanchez incident is 50/50, much more so than this.

Ambrosini ended the game without a single card, despite having hold Cesc shirt 3 times in the first half and a dirty tackle to Tiago. The ref was also benefiting us there? And Nesta doing a very dirty tackle with the tuds in front and no second card? Was the ref again helping us?
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I agree Ambro should've been carded, which would've probably lowered the intensity of the midfield as a whole. Boateng, if anyone, should've been sent off for double yellow as he was getting too nervous and letting the pressure get to him. Allegri saw this and took him off.

Milanista, I hope it's only a matter of sour grapes, because some of the things you say are clearly biased. Puyol did the same that Nocerino, Nesta and Ambrosini did during the whole first half. Mexes spent more time kicking players than kicking the ball, so please try to be objective. Both teams played with a lot of intensity, but you cant deny that Barcelona was all the time dominating the game and deserved to gothrough overall considering the chances.
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Yes, it's a combination of sour grapes, but when your team is put in the position of the victim by the referee, it's hard for the players to keep your cool and feel victimised. On the weekend we had another terrible referee, which probably made it much worse tonight.

About the dominating - I think Barca is too wasteful (home and away, and in group stage), and if we had 1 or 2 more chances when it was 1-1, we could've scored and defended our score.

Puyol pretending to be assaulted? What are you smoking? He goes there to ask for a yellow for Mexes after the french kicked a Barcelona player from behind and no ball for the third time. I saw Ambrosini yelling to the ref all the match. You didn't? And Mascherano is as irritating as all good DMFs.
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I think Mascherano is one of the best around, but since his Liverpool days, I consider him to be dirty... in the Walter Samuel category of dirty.

Anyway, congrats Barca for basically being unbeaten - I think we seriously had a chance and could've kept a score tie, but all the wrong reasons prevented this. :PIRATE:
 
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