Best Football game of all time

[incas36]

Pes 20 Demo. Unbeatable for me.

 

[vegasheat]

5z

Pes 20 Demo. Unbeatable for me.

Is there any way to play it ?

 

[Sany023]

5z

Is there any way to play it ?

On PlayStation - If PES 2020 Demo was added into own library - it's possible to load from servers to consol.

 

[sleevel]

On PlayStation - If PES 2020 Demo was added into own library - it's possible to load from servers to consol.

No Sany installer for this one?

 

[Sany023]

No Sany installer for this one?

I am talking about PES 2020 Demo PS4 in library of games for PlayStation 4.
And not sure that it's possible without any issues download PES 2020 Demo PC from steam via different file tricks and commands.
May be also if on PC PES 2020 Demo was added into library of Steam in those moment, when demo was actual and available.

 

[incas36]

5z

Is there any way to play it ?

Here:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/back-to-t...ic-moments-new-amazing-entertainments.101771/

it's a porting on pes 21 thanks to @Energia (and not only for Pes 20 Demo!)

here:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-21-ga...0-by-alex-release.88020/page-120#post-4161218

post nr. 3584 where @Kolesnikcr7 adapted patch 1.8.0.0 to work as a substitute of patch 1.8.1.0 because the 1.8.0.0 is much better (ad i agree).

finally here:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-2020-pc-next-season-patch-24-2025-megapatch-v3-1.101736/

where you can find a global and updated patch for Pes 20 thanks to @Narok21

 

[incas36]

I've PES 20 Demo in my Steam Library but when i tried to start the Demo i've this error:

 

[incas36]

I hope it's possible to use off line trick via Goldberg software fore Pes 20 Demo.

 

[oldbox]

FIFA 18, pre-update version, only women's teams.

 

[sleevel]

I hope it's possible to use off line trick via Goldberg software fore Pes 20 Demo.

Right I thought the only way to play PES2020 is to own a legitimate copy on Steam.

 

[vegasheat]

Looks like unless you still somehow have PES 20 demo you are out of luck

 

[Madmac79]

I remember making a Steam account just to save Pes 20 demo back in the days, but whenever I try to login with it for some reason it just mixes with my main one, and I only see full Pes 20 (togheter with a number of my other games I of course have only on my other main account.. no idea if that's cache related or some other intentional "feature", maybe I should try on another pc, even if from what I read above it's just not available anymore).

However, hoping not to make somebody angry.. I tried a number of other versions or even mods that promised that same gameplay on PC.. but not a single one replied CPU frequency dribbling of the demo or came near the general feeling it gave me back then. I also tried the legendary Pes 20 1.0 on PS4 (the one out of the disc, without updates).. maybe I should spend some more time with it, but in the matches I did I've found even that one pretty different from the demo.

 

[vegasheat]

Someone on Reddit claims features in PES 2020 Demo are all in PES 19. I played PES 19 and I kind of find it better than both PES 17 and 21

 

[SerieALegends]

glad to see my all time favourite PES 3 getting a lot of votes

in more modern terms I would have picked 2015 which I still play despite its faults. Its the game that makes me feel i'm playing a football match blended with arcade in just the right amounts

 

[vegasheat]

One thing that I am kind of getting tired of preparing the game to look and feel good. Sometimes it can take me 5 to 10 min to just properly put everything together. For example FIFA 16. Run the game. Run the ball mod. Run the different reshades. Different tv logos / scoreboards etc that modding actually becomes a part of playing the game. Where as for example Kick Off 2, SWOS 96/96 provide that IMMEDIATE fun with few clicks. We are chasing this realism, some sort of real simulation which does not provide the true gaming experience. Seabass once said what made PES succesful was a mix of arcade and sim. He was so right about this. Other developers like Dino Dini, explain in detail what a true gameplay experience should be. This is not only with football games but games in general. As technology advanced, games took a massibe step back. Trying to capture of what the game looks like instead of feels like. Take any FPS game today, combine ALL players ever active online it will never be what CS 1.6 was. I don't blame anyone besides TIME. Older developers retired, new blood came in and new blood simply does not know how to create video games. There is a reason why Amiga 500 in good condition still sells for 500-600 ;bucks.....a good reason why people use emulators and still own older consoles. They provided fun.

I GUATANTEE this is how almost everyone operates today....

Lets mod PES 21 etc for few hours...research learn...youtube etc etc..only to play 5 matches or less and be bored.

 

[oldbox]

Lets mod PES 21 etc for few hours...research learn...youtube etc etc..only to play 5 matches or less and be bored.

This is the flip side of trying to add "realism" to the gameplay. Instead of fun and joy, you get emotional tension and irritation in game with "realism" modding. Therefore, I personally have been playing only FIFA since 2021 and for women's tems only, without using any mods. It gives me only good emotions, and I no longer send curses and swearing to the footballers on my display

 

[sleevel]

This is the flip side of trying to add "realism" to the gameplay. Instead of fun and joy, you get emotional tension and irritation in game with "realism" modding. Therefore, I personally have been playing only FIFA since 2021 and for women's tems only, without using any mods. It gives me only good emotions, and I no longer send curses and swearing to the footballers on my display

The old games had “soul” - that’s the word that keeps coming to my mind. Most often this word is used to describe music, where the time, dedication, care and passion that the artist put in, flows out beautifully in song.

Absolutely right that the modern games look good but they don’t feel good. In PES 5/WE9/6, the button press and execution of action is nearly instantaneous. With each subsequent revision, the delay grows longer and longer, creating a greater sense of disconnection. You are not “in” the game - you are “close” but you are not “there.” It’s all an illusion - after all it’s a video game. But it’s my opinion that sense of control is paramount to immersion, far more important than graphical realism.

 

[tutu7]

I voted for WE9LE (I can't play pes21 due to pc limitations, at the moment).
I've always privileged realism over fun gameplay, and I recently found in WE9LE my favourite game. Modded properly, it's truly great, if not mind-blowing, considering it is a game from almost 20 years ago.
At the moment, I'm using Kingsley's exe and various excellent modules , such as camera module (800 or 1000 zoom), gameplay module, referees module and very low speeder settings. In addition to all of this, I use tweaked stats for a more realistic experience.
This game has a major flaw, though: the CPU. Unfortunately, as beautiful as it can be, this lackluster CPU ruins the single player experience. As a matter of fact, I mainly play this game in multiplayer and...it's just fantastic! And it isn't only realistic, but also very responsive and with a great player identity: the difference between players is very clear, like in many other ps1 and ps2 pes games.
I chose WE9LE over PES5 mainly because of a goalkeepers' problem that is far more annoying on the latter (they tend to stay still sometimes, especially with shots on their near post)

 

[oldbox]

But it’s my opinion that sense of control is paramount to immersion, far more important than graphical realism.

This year, I was installing the PES 5 Original Season Patch for nostalgia. I deleted the game before I even played the match to the end. It looked very archaic compared to the new games, and in overall it looks easy to play.
Now that there are have over 40 football games, we have a big selection. But everyone needs their own, and after all, only a personal impressions make a game "best of all games". Therefore, we see a lot of opinions that the best game is "It's FIFA16", or "It's PES2017" or 5,13,21,19 and other versions.

As for me, I can say that I "finished career" in 2020-21. After years of master league and various championships, I'm just tired. Around 7 mouths I'm don't touch football games. But then I remembered the women 🙂 (in the game, I don't forget about womens in real life). The first time I trying women's teams in FIFA17, and I was impressed. But when I tried it in FIFA 18, I was a "hypnotized". Since 2021, I've probably only played about 20 matches with men's teams. Just only quick match or two-match confrontation, and "fake" womens world cup sometimes, but I can't stop play for women's teams in FIFA 18/19/21, and can play this every day. No matter what the result of match, but I'm smiling all around the match. I don't know how it affected me, maybe because women's football looks like a comedy (and in real life too), maybe the another animations, and the animation of the long hair adds swiftness and visual realism.

 

[vegasheat]

I voted for WE9LE (I can't play pes21 due to pc limitations, at the moment).
I've always privileged realism over fun gameplay, and I recently found in WE9LE my favourite game. Modded properly, it's truly great, if not mind-blowing, considering it is a game from almost 20 years ago.
At the moment, I'm using Kingsley's exe and various excellent modules , such as camera module (800 or 1000 zoom), gameplay module, referees module and very low speeder settings. In addition to all of this, I use tweaked stats for a more realistic experience.
This game has a major flaw, though: the CPU. Unfortunately, as beautiful as it can be, this lackluster CPU ruins the single player experience. As a matter of fact, I mainly play this game in multiplayer and...it's just fantastic! And it isn't only realistic, but also very responsive and with a great player identity: the difference between players is very clear, like in many other ps1 and ps2 pes games.
I chose WE9LE over PES5 mainly because of a goalkeepers' problem that is far more annoying on the latter (they tend to stay still sometimes, especially with shots on their near post)

What patch are you using for WE9LE ? I had Exodus version I believe it was called. If you have PS2 emulator, try J League Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship, in my opinion its better than WE9LE. I think WE8LE Reefur patch is probably one of the best as welm