Whilst we are in agreement that arsenal are pretty poor considering the stability and spending power the club has at present, I dont get why last nights win being our first away win is a some sort of indicator to why we were "there for taking", what difference does that make, arsenal have won 1 more away game than us.
Plus I'd like to add that arsenal have only won 2 league games at home, 2 games FFS!
Obviously taking into account the facts that in football terms its a long time since Utd have seen arsenal as a threat (we even took four points last season), all that lambs to the slaughter talk is bollocks mate.
I repeat arsenal have only won 2 games at home, and we're nearly in december. LVG knew what he was doing, he opted for a back 3 and once Paddy, Tyler and Chris settled into the game (most half decent teams will dominate at home so is to be expected) we never looked liked conceding.
arsenal were just, well, typically arsenal, most teams and managers have had the measure of wenger for years, maybe you just couldn't be arsed but I find it very funny you only used Jose and Klopp as examples of managers who outwit Mr Predictable himself. last years FA Cup win aint fooling anyone, same old arsenal, pretty much how you described the team, you could copy and paste this into any synopsis of arsenals end of season report for the last 8 or 9 years..
So if arsenal do have the "better team" then I seriously question your definition of what a "better team" is.
Maybe you would be better off lowering you expectations of what your team is capable of, then maybe your disappointment at yet another predictable season of wengers ideas wont be so intense.
The invincible team was a long time ago gooners. To put that into perspective, The Last Title winning captain of arsenal is currently coaching at man city and will be managing them in the next couple of seasons.
You obviously didn't read my post carefully. For instance, I said those 2 kids (McNair and Blackett) were the ones who looked like lambs to the slaughter. They're obviously too inexperienced and they even looked scared for the most part of the 1st half. Every time Sanchez chased them down they panicked (even De Gea at some points). I think it's fair to say they looked very uncomfortable, don't you think?
And yet, we still couldn't profit from that. Bottled it once again.
I'll say it again: this is the worst, most unbalanced, United team there has been in maybe 20 years. A great attacking lineup (Rooney, RvP, Falcão, Di Maria), but what else? A good keeper, that's all.
When I say Arsenal are better as a unit, I'm considering our midfield and even our disfigured defense. A much more balanced team in all areas. We both suffer from injuries in defense. We were missing Koscielny (a top top defender for us) and Debuchy. You were missing Evans and Rafael (not great defenders by any means) and who else? Blind, I don't even think of him as a defender, more like a Van Gaal invention, one he got away with at the World Cup, but I'm not so sure now for the long run.
I personally think the 'worst Premiership champions' thing is rubbish, but now things are bad for United indeed. Just consider for a moment that, maybe, you're deluded, still thinking you're a force like in the Ferguson days. The truth is that things just aren't the same without Siralix. He was the man who could get average players performing above their level. The Smallings and Evans aren't gonna deliver like they did under Fergie, you can rest assured.
As for me, I'm not fooling myself. I'm pointing out the shortcomings under Wenger, exactly the same you mention. I think we can agree on those, I just don't know why you suggest I'm deluded here
It's not a case of lowering our expectations either. It's not unreasonable to expect something better from Arsenal, considering the group of players we have and considering how the burden of stadium debt is off our shoulders and now we have improved contracts and will be spending considerably more than in the past 9 years.
So from now on things should be on the up for Arsenal, that's why everybody gets angry at the team not being able to beat what we perceive to be a feeble United side, a great team just 2-3 years ago, but now a complete mess.
I'm not taking credit away from you, this isn't anything personal against you guys - I'm just saying you went one-nil up without a shot on target and Arsenal's performance was abject.
This ain't no media conspiracy. You have a long way to go before you can expect anything close to the brilliance of the Fergie days. In my mind, we got beaten by the team that gets battered by Leicester 5-3 at home.