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Vannizzlefashizzal said:
I'm shocked by the decline of the gooners, maybe it has to get worse before it gets better...
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We are still good enough on our day to beat you lot so its not all bad!! ;)

jonneymendoza said:
what a terrible performance by the kids. and bendter? jesus, not only does he suck in the senior squad but also on the reserve squad!! sell him
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I didn't think we played that badly tbh. Burnley were brilliant. But for better finishing we would have been out of sight at half time. The fact that their keeper was man of the match speak volumes.

Bendtner was a disgrace though, his attitude sucks. It seemed to me like he felt he was too good to be in that team and was just going through the motions. Why not play Simpson from the start instead? Great reward for him after his 2 goals against Wigan in the last round.
 
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Vannizzlefashizzal said:
yeah but as good as we are you dont get a trophy for beating us...
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I do - I make a trophy out of papier mache (a mix of the next days back pages of the newsapaper and my love juices)

and paint it and have a special shelf (Huge massive shelf) with all of the others on it :))..........so there!!!!!
 
Eboue had a terrible game, and pisses me off on regular occassions, but i don't think he deserved what happened from the fans. I think my man was crying as he walked off.
 
he was in shambles must of been the worst night in his life...doesn`t help when wenger says
Wenger said: "Yes it was a difficult decision. I felt he had completely lost his confidence and could not keep the ball anymore.

"Of course then he became a danger. I feel it was very sad but aswell I think the most important thing is that we won the game,
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YoungGun_UK said:
Erm I missed it what happenend :SS
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people where booing eboue and it was sad really. most fans hate him so bad but to be honest he has been our best RB alongside sagna.

he had a terrible season last year but that was because he was assigned to play right wing.

i was shocked really as he is a very good player and the fans are not helping his confidence at all. you should NEVER boo a player of your own if his playing bad. your suppose to cheer him on and give him "support".

if you support a team you should support every player playing for that team
 
Thing is, if Nasri hadn't have got injured, Eboue wouldn't have come on til near the end rather than after 20mins or whatever it was. He probably wasn't mentally prepared to be on the field. After being out so long and then been thrown on much earlier than he expected it probably caught him out and Wenger had no choice but to take him off rather than risk losing a goal because of him.
 
Yeah, could be. I just hope that Nasri is not injured for long now!! Wenger said that Fabregas has a knee problem and he might not play against Porto. Lets just hope its a draw atleast, coz i dont want Arsenal to be 2nd in the group. Dont want to face Juventus or Barcelona rite now!!
 
IceMan_Bergkamp said:
Eboue had a terrible game, and pisses me off on regular occassions, but i don't think he deserved what happened from the fans. I think my man was crying as he walked off.
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I have waited 2 days to post this, I think I have calmed down sufficiently enough now.

Let me start by saying that Eboue has never been a favourite of mine, I mean he's a right back who cannot defend. There's problem number one to start with! He can be a diver too but I feel he has toned this down recently. He played right midfield last season and scored ZERO goals and made (I think) 1 assist. Nowhere near good enough BUT he was being played out of position! Its not his fault if Wenger tells him to play there.

In short he's not good enough for us as a starter and there are question marks over his role as a squad player.

However, the treatment he got on Saturday from so-called Arsenal fans disgusted me. I walked out the stadium embarassed to be an Arsenal fan, and I have never, ever felt that way before. It was shocking. I am a placid person and I surprised myself by having a pop at the guy who sits in front of me who was booing him, but to my mind it was warranted.

To me supporting you team is about getting 100% behind the players who don your team's shirt regardless of who they are OR how they are playing....The treatment Eboue got from a few thousand(!) fans was wrong and I hope that they are ashamed of themselves. That is not what support is all about.

The booing is detrimental to the player but more imprtantly to the team and the whole squad. What the fuck is 16 year old Jack Wilshere supposed to think whilst sitting on the bench and watching that? Hardly gives him confidence that if he makes a couple of mistakes the crowd won't get on his back.

Generally, our fans have always been very supportive of the team. When I go to away games the atmosphere is different and you can sense that our hardcore support is fully behind the team. Recently though at home its been a different story, too many corporate\new fans who have not had to experience the shit times (do they even know who David Hillier is??). I am sick to the back teeth of our so called fans thinking that we have the divine right to win every game. If Arsenal got relegated how many of them would be back next season? I bet the majority that did boo would not and to me that's the problem.

I guess what I am saying is that we have a large proportion of fickle fans and whilst I defend Arsenal and everything we stand for I cannot do it anymore. The fans that booed on Saturday were a fucking disgrace and have no place at our club.
 
Would LOVE an Arsenal v Barca matchup. Henry coming back, the purists approach to football...would be awesome.

That said I think you'll thump Porto. Don't know why, just have an itch that you're turning a little corner.

Btw, Eboue wasn't boo'ed because he's rubbish. He was booed because he's a diving, cheating, nasty pr*ck. Sucks, but your history stays with you.
 
Clockender said:
I have waited 2 days to post this, I think I have calmed down sufficiently enough now.

Let me start by saying that Eboue has never been a favourite of mine, I mean he's a right back who cannot defend. There's problem number one to start with! He can be a diver too but I feel he has toned this down recently. He played right midfield last season and scored ZERO goals and made (I think) 1 assist. Nowhere near good enough BUT he was being played out of position! Its not his fault if Wenger tells him to play there.

In short he's not good enough for us as a starter and there are question marks over his role as a squad player.

However, the treatment he got on Saturday from so-called Arsenal fans disgusted me. I walked out the stadium embarassed to be an Arsenal fan, and I have never, ever felt that way before. It was shocking. I am a placid person and I surprised myself by having a pop at the guy who sits in front of me who was booing him, but to my mind it was warranted.

To me supporting you team is about getting 100% behind the players who don your team's shirt regardless of who they are OR how they are playing....The treatment Eboue got from a few thousand(!) fans was wrong and I hope that they are ashamed of themselves. That is not what support is all about.

The booing is detrimental to the player but more imprtantly to the team and the whole squad. What the fuck is 16 year old Jack Wilshere supposed to think whilst sitting on the bench and watching that? Hardly gives him confidence that if he makes a couple of mistakes the crowd won't get on his back.

Generally, our fans have always been very supportive of the team. When I go to away games the atmosphere is different and you can sense that our hardcore support is fully behind the team. Recently though at home its been a different story, too many corporate\new fans who have not had to experience the shit times (do they even know who David Hillier is??). I am sick to the back teeth of our so called fans thinking that we have the divine right to win every game. If Arsenal got relegated how many of them would be back next season? I bet the majority that did boo would not and to me that's the problem.

I guess what I am saying is that we have a large proportion of fickle fans and whilst I defend Arsenal and everything we stand for I cannot do it anymore. The fans that booed on Saturday were a fucking disgrace and have no place at our club.
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It is true, If it was different circumstances and he played like that for a few game sin a row. Then maybe. But it is ridiculous to Boo a player like that when he has just come back from injury aswell.

Eboue has to be one of the few players that I have disliked throughout the years being an Arsenal supporter. But It does send out the wrong message and it does make us look like idiots when we boo our own player like that.

But I can also see it on the opposite side - when people have paid their hard earned money and then you see a player that looks like he isn't giving his all in a game. That along with all the other stuff he did, with the diving etc previously.

It is such a shame - because when he first came to the club he looked brilliant on the right side of defence (As an attacking defender) but it has all gone to shit now.

I was reading Arsblog and he mentioned that one of the main reasons was that there was a moment in the game when Eboue took the ball off of Toure and then played the ball to the opposition - which I think pissed alot of people off.

I didn't see the game so I can't comment. But I do know that it will make players think twice before signing for us and that definately isn't a good thing.

Hopefully Eboue gets his act together - because I do think he can be a good player. But now I think it will be away from Arsenal. I think it may be better for both if he did leave.
 
BobbyBox said:
It is true, If it was different circumstances and he played like that for a few game sin a row. Then maybe. But it is ridiculous to Boo a player like that when he has just come back from injury aswell.

Eboue has to be one of the few players that I have disliked throughout the years being an Arsenal supporter. But It does send out the wrong message and it does make us look like idiots when we boo our own player like that.

But I can also see it on the opposite side - when people have paid their hard earned money and then you see a player that looks like he isn't giving his all in a game. That along with all the other stuff he did, with the diving etc previously.

It is such a shame - because when he first came to the club he looked brilliant on the right side of defence (As an attacking defender) but it has all gone to shit now.

I was reading Arsblog and he mentioned that one of the main reasons was that there was a moment in the game when Eboue took the ball off of Toure and then played the ball to the opposition - which I think pissed alot of people off.

I didn't see the game so I can't comment. But I do know that it will make players think twice before signing for us and that definately isn't a good thing.

Hopefully Eboue gets his act together - because I do think he can be a good player. But now I think it will be away from Arsenal. I think it may be better for both if he did leave.
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I think how much people pay to go to football is irrelevant tbh. No-one forces anyone to go...I go to support the team I love regardless of who is playing for us. If we had 11 Eboue's in side I would still go and support them.

Lets not forgot Wenger played Eboue for over an hour at left midfield!. All this after he had been out for 6 weeks or so injured. Wenger has to take on a lot of the blame here, Vela would have been a much better option to come on when Nasri went off IMO. Unfortunately Wenger has his favorites and Eboue seems to be one of them.

He actually had an an ok game (considering he was being played way out of position) for the majority, but it was his last 5 mins that went pear shaped spectacularly and this is what he is being vilified for.

Like I said before, he is my least favorite Arsenal player but I have a lot of sympathy for him.
 
Clockender said:
I think how much people pay to go to football is irrelevant tbh. No-one forces anyone to go...I go to support the team I love regardless of who is playing for us. If we had 11 Eboue's in side I would still go and support them.

Lets not forgot Wenger played Eboue for over an hour at left midfield!. All this after he had been out for 6 weeks or so injured. Wenger has to take on a lot of the blame here, Vela would have been a much better option to come on when Nasri went off IMO. Unfortunately Wenger has his favorites and Eboue seems to be one of them.

He actually had an an ok game (considering he was being played way out of position) for the majority, but it was his last 5 mins that went pear shaped spectacularly and this is what he is being vilified for.

Like I said before, he is my least favorite Arsenal player but I have a lot of sympathy for him.
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I am with you and I would support my team whatever.

But If I saw a player (not saying Eboue was/wasn't) that looked like he didn't care and didn't want to play for us - then I would be mighty pissed off. Especially a player that gets paid tens of thousands a week to represent the team that I love. A team that I have just paid £30 upwards to see for 1 1/2 hours. This is what alot of people percieve about Eboue or probably did at that point.

But I wouldn't get pissed off with Eboue or any other player for one game - if it was a consistant thing then yes I would. Consistantly lacking in Fight and commitment for the team that is, not consistantly bad.

If a player just didn't have the ability, then It is not fair to boo him. As the manager plays him. But if the player just doesn't give a shit, then the fans have every reason to boo.

To be honest though - I think Eboue does give us his best in games. As it happens on the whole his best isn't good enough. Its just that he had a bad day. I think it just boils down to the fact that he shouldn't be playing for a team like Arsenal.

Also I think the fans had a lot more reason to Boo at Gallas the other day and they chose not too. So I think it is double standards aswell, just because we needed Gallas at that point.

Anyway - I have never booed an Arsenal player and I think it serves no purpose at all.
 
Clockender said:
Recently though at home its been a different story, too many corporate\new fans who have not had to experience the shit times (do they even know who David Hillier is??)
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Glenn Helder? ;)

Agree that Vela would most def been a better option. Eboue did really look on his last legs - the way Toure ushered him to run up the wing for the slide pass, and then he runs into Toure, and promptly passes to Koumas was i think the act of a tired player. Still doesn't condone the flak he got from the idiotic section of our fans.

I was wondering what Eddy was making of it sitting on the sides - probably shitting it that he'll be on the same end of the stick if he doesn't find goals!

What about Rosicknote... 11 month of treatment at the moment... he'll probably be bricking it too, if he ever comes back.
 
From football 365

f365 said:
ROSICKY OUT UNTIL AT LEAST MARCH

Arsene Wenger has admitted that Tomas Rosicky will be out of action until at least March.

The Czech midfielder injured his hamstring during an FA Cup tie with Newcastle in January and last month underwent surgery, with Wenger predicting that he would miss another eight weeks.

But Wenger has now admitted that "the recovery period was slower than expected" and Rosicky has been ruled out for another three months.

"He's doing rehab at the moment," said Wenger. "He's back here on December 17 and then hopefully we can start to work with him. But it's a long-term prospect - maybe March at the earliest."

There is some good news for Arsenal fans - Eduardo has been pencilled in for a reserve team game on December 16.
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Prob see him next season.
 
I think the nooing of Eboue was an absolute disgrace...real fans support their team's players...
The man came back from injury and was played out of position....i guess there are hunderds or thousands of real Arsenal fans, but the big four attract thousands of spoiled glory hunters too...now that Arsenal is performing less good (which is very relative) they turn against one of their own players...i think they should support their players...the performance against man Utd was thebest football i've seen this season...
 
Clockender's and onlinegooner.com's words are quite beautiful and idealistic. And they are right too. But things just don't work that way. You can't tell the masses to shut their mouths, specially if it's almost common sense that Eboue has been rubbish.

I wish it didn't happen, but there's nothing you can do about it. Some people simply lose it and you can't expect everyone to have as much class as you.
 
You don't know how much that makes me feel to hear those words from you (clockender) imo the eboue frustration seems to be bigger than Eboue`s 30 minutes or errors. There`s a spanish saying which translate "the blood was in the waters" meaning the frustrations of our season was spilled over on Eboue. Think 9 games..not match fit and then see Wenger sub a sub :THINK: what gallas leaked was issues that was over spilling. Maybe Im wrong but for the defense of the immature fans that night. They are acting normal to an abnormal situation and it shows the amount of pressure AW is dealing with...I might send a Letter to Arsenal for Eboue apologising for what he had to face that night.He never tried to leave the Arsenal nor hold them for ransom
 
beboq said:
You don't know how much that makes me feel to hear those words from you (clockender) imo the eboue frustration seems to be bigger than Eboue`s 30 minutes or errors. There`s a spanish saying which translate "the blood was in the waters" meaning the frustrations of our season was spilled over on Eboue. Think 9 games..not match fit and then see Wenger sub a sub :THINK: what gallas leaked was issues that was over spilling. Maybe Im wrong but for the defense of the immature fans that night. They are acting normal to an abnormal situation and it shows the amount of pressure AW is dealing with...I might send a Letter to Arsenal for Eboue apologising for what he had to face that night.He never tried to leave the Arsenal nor hold them for ransom
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Quite right mate. What Gallas did was IMO far, far worse and yet he is still supported. I think Bobby mentioned it but it is double standards. Anyway, I am sure he will get over it and I hope the controversy of his booing will make some fans think again before doing it in future.

Stop being negative and get behind the team and be positive, that would be my message...
 
In
Diaby
Gallas

Out
Cesc (knee)
Clichy (hamstring)
Sagna (flu)
Kolo (calf)
Adebayor (rested)
Robin van Persie (leptospirosis)
Nasri (ankle)

Team will prob look like this...


----------------Dopey (C)----------

Hoyte----Djourou----Silvestre----Gallas

Eboue---Song----Denilson----Diaby

----------Bendtner------Vela-----



pffff... not much creativity in midfield.
 
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