Arsenal Thread

Hart has been great so far this season. Sick of people saying he's overrated (why? because he's English?). He's been the best GK in the PL for the last 2/3 seasons.

It's a complete joke to list those GKs above Hart. De Gea? give me a fucking break
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Hart has been easily top gk in the world nevermind best gk in the Premier league
 
Let me go off-topic here, if you allow me, just to lighten up the mood :)

I don't know how many of you in this thread still play PES. Konami killed a lot of the good things about the game and doesn't seem to care about fans sending letters to complain. So I thought I'd go viral on them instead.

I'd like your feedback, if it's alright. I did one of those Hitler rant movies on those meme sites, but I'm looking for the original file to do it on a video editor, proper stuff.

But firstly, tell me what you think and if I should go ahead with the idea:

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Very good mate, well done :))
 
Ferguson makes lots of errors concerning GK's.
Mark my words: De Gea will become one of the best GK's in the world, maybe not with Man Utd, but he will be.
When De Gea will win individual silverware, nobody will remember Sczeszny, who then will be playing for Scunthorpe.
 
Very good mate, well done :))

"you can shove the boots and banana up your arse"

lmao rentboy

Thanks guys :)
I had a good laugh myself while doing this. I'll do a proper one later with a video editor, so I can upload it to Youtube, embed on other sites and so forth.
Hopefully it can become viral enough that Konami will see this? :)

I see that the topic in this thread has shifted to goal keepers again. Sorry guys, that's my fault too!
I just hope I don't have to make a Hitler video about our goal keeper situation :LOL:
 
Ferguson makes lots of errors concerning GK's.
Mark my words: De Gea will become one of the best GK's in the world, maybe not with Man Utd, but he will be.
When De Gea will win individual silverware, nobody will remember Sczeszny, who then will be playing for Scunthorpe.

:LOL::LMAO: that kick started my day ! gerd:WORSHIP:
 
Sczeszny will become a very good goalie. I disagree with Gerd.

We'll see in a few years where he is. For me he has what it takes to become one of the world's Top goalies.
 
Ferguson makes lots of errors concerning GK's.
Mark my words: De Gea will become one of the best GK's in the world, maybe not with Man Utd, but he will be.
When De Gea will win individual silverware, nobody will remember Sczeszny, who then will be playing for Scunthorpe.

I agree with this. De Gea basically hasn't made any mistakes in about 4 months of football but was dropped cause Fergie is going a bit mental. The only goal he conceded he could have done something about was against Fulham, when he was patently fouled, but because it's De Gea the punditry/media have forgotten that.

I've never seen a player consistently pull off the saves that De Gea has. He obviously needs to get more commanding of his area (and English) but he is absolutely the best shot stopper in the league.
 
man EVERYTIME I SEE VAN PERSIE SCORE for man u im raging! scoring some winners all the time is what he could have done for us this season... im sad -_-
 
I agree with this. De Gea basically hasn't made any mistakes in about 4 months of football but was dropped cause Fergie is going a bit mental. The only goal he conceded he could have done something about was against Fulham, when he was patently fouled, but because it's De Gea the punditry/media have forgotten that.

I've never seen a player consistently pull off the saves that De Gea has. He obviously needs to get more commanding of his area (and English) but he is absolutely the best shot stopper in the league.

He's the spanish Shay Given. Decent shot stopper (not the best by any means) but limited.

I find that it's mostly kids who rave about De Gea. They see him pull off a(n unnecessarily) theatrical save and do the odd cruyff turn past a striker and think he's something special.
 
He's the spanish Shay Given. Decent shot stopper (not the best by any means) but limited.

I find that it's mostly kids who rave about De Gea. They see him pull off a(n unnecessarily) theatrical save and do the odd cruyff turn past a striker and think he's something special.

Lots of kids are clearly pundits in Spain then. He was (rightly) viewed as the next big thing for about 2 seasons before United bought him. He also won a Europa league title and a Super Cup at 19 years old, and U17 and under U21 european championships. He's now captain of the latter team.

But I'm sure the English press know better. I mean, Joe Hart never makes mistakes does he?

It's not like United's two CL wins this season have come off the back of him making 3 world class saves. Nah. Must be that one Cruyff turn.

As this is the Arsenal thread, I think Sczesny could be quality, but still has too many massive howlers in him. However, he's still really young, is massive and has the mentality to succeed. And Wenger has faith in him.
 
He's the spanish Shay Given. Decent shot stopper (not the best by any means) but limited.

I find that it's mostly kids who rave about De Gea. They see him pull off a(n unnecessarily) theatrical save and do the odd cruyff turn past a striker and think he's something special.

Sir, with all due respect: you haven't got a clue about GK.
It's true that spectacular saves are often needed because GK's made positioning errors, but that is not the case with De Gea. Take for example his fine saves yesterday.
De Gea is far from the finished product and maybe should have stayed longer with Atletico, but he will be among the very top GK's, because he has it all.

Now about Hart and Szeczny. They are certainly nog bad GK's. But they are not GK's for absolute biog clubs like Arsenal and Man City. Hart was a match winner for Man City when they weren't title favourites. He would be fabulous for Stoke, Reading and Aston Villa because he would be very busy most of the time. The best example IMO is Tim Howard. He is a great GK but just not good enough for a huge club (he also went too soon to Man Utd, like so many before and after him).

Anyway, time will tell and it wouldn't be the first time that i'm completely wrong, but Szeczny is not a GK that would make me feel confident as an Arsenal fan.
 
As this is the Arsenal thread, I think Sczesny could be quality, but still has too many massive howlers in him. However, he's still really young, is massive and has the mentality to succeed. And Wenger has faith in him.
This is the bit that annoys me, The united GK of yours makes MORE mistakes then Sczesny yet u and gerd seem to rate him higher then Sczesny which is odd.

u see Sczesny make one or two mistakes and all of a sudden his a terrible gk. Even Reina has made more howlers then Sczesny last season
 
Sir, with all due respect: you haven't got a clue about GK.
It's true that spectacular saves are often needed because GK's made positioning errors, but that is not the case with De Gea. Take for example his fine saves yesterday.
De Gea is far from the finished product and maybe should have stayed longer with Atletico, but he will be among the very top GK's, because he has it all.

Now about Hart and Szeczny. They are certainly nog bad GK's. But they are not GK's for absolute biog clubs like Arsenal and Man City. Hart was a match winner for Man City when they weren't title favourites. He would be fabulous for Stoke, Reading and Aston Villa because he would be very busy most of the time. The best example IMO is Tim Howard. He is a great GK but just not good enough for a huge club (he also went too soon to Man Utd, like so many before and after him).

Anyway, time will tell and it wouldn't be the first time that i'm completely wrong, but Szeczny is not a GK that would make me feel confident as an Arsenal fan.


Hart is a player for Stoke, Reading and Villa? Hahaha you're off you fucking rocker, mate.
 
Lots of kids are clearly pundits in Spain then. He was (rightly) viewed as the next big thing for about 2 seasons before United bought him. He also won a Europa league title and a Super Cup at 19 years old, and U17 and under U21 european championships. He's now captain of the latter team.

But I'm sure the English press know better. I mean, Joe Hart never makes mistakes does he?

It's not like United's two CL wins this season have come off the back of him making 3 world class saves. Nah. Must be that one Cruyff turn.

As this is the Arsenal thread, I think Sczesny could be quality, but still has too many massive howlers in him. However, he's still really young, is massive and has the mentality to succeed. And Wenger has faith in him.


Do you think De Gea is better than Hart? No-one in their right mind thinks this.
You need more than pretty quick instincts/reflexes to be a top class GK. Most GK's can put off these kinds of saves. It's the other part of their game which sets the best apart.
 
Hart is a player for Stoke, Reading and Villa? Hahaha you're off you fucking rocker, mate.

I've been thinking about some ironic comment that is as eloquent as the above cited, but decided to end this discussion for once and forever:



Joe Hart is the best GK ever.


Hope Arsenal win against Olympiakos this evening.
 
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LOL.
No use to have another internet feud...i think i'm slowly growing up jonney. Or maybe i just have a good, reasonable day...it happens. After all, it's only football.

And to think that i'm the one who defends Man City quite a lot against the likes of you and beachryan...

Sometimes i don't understand English fans. I once made the mistake saying that i used to be a Man Utd fan and some Man Utd didn't like that. A couple of weeks later a Man City fan attacked me saying that i have something against City, because i used to support Man Utd. It seems i will have no football friends in the city of Manchester...
 
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Still on the goalkeepers eh? Look at the monster I created :LOL:

Regarding Hart, it's neither here or there for me. He pulls some spectacular saves, he's a great shot stopper. But hey, so is Szcsesney!
When looking at Hart's howler in that C. Ronaldo shot, if that was Sczscszesny he would get a LOT of stick for that. But since it's Hart, England National Team keeper, you won't see Sky Sports pundits slating him.

Don't get me wrong, Sczc has bad moments like those, sometimes worse, but he will be more criticised for it.
The same goes for De Gea. Pulls excellent saves, but when found wanting, his critics are merciless.

Having said all that, I still maintain my position: Wenger should have gotten a really good keeper near the end of his career to show the ropes to Wojcech and pass him the torch, while being of an advanced age would mean Sczcesny wouldn't have to wait too much. Yep, that guy could have been Schwarzer. I don't want to go round and round with this. Just sayin' :)
 
Still on the goalkeepers eh? Look at the monster I created :LOL:

Regarding Hart, it's neither here or there for me. He pulls some spectacular saves, he's a great shot stopper. But hey, so is Szcsesney!
When looking at Hart's howler in that C. Ronaldo shot, if that was Sczscszesny he would get a LOT of stick for that. But since it's Hart, England National Team keeper, you won't see Sky Sports pundits slating him.

Don't get me wrong, Sczc has bad moments like those, sometimes worse, but he will be more criticised for it.
The same goes for De Gea. Pulls excellent saves, but when found wanting, his critics are merciless.

Having said all that, I still maintain my position: Wenger should have gotten a really good keeper near the end of his career to show the ropes to Wojcech and pass him the torch, while being of an advanced age would mean Sczcesny wouldn't have to wait too much. Yep, that guy could have been Schwarzer. I don't want to go round and round with this. Just sayin' :)

I don't think anybody will disagree with you that Wenger should have got a better more experienced goalkeeper in when we had Almunia and Fabianski troubles.

The only thing that confused me is why bring it up now when Szcz has been our number one for a couple of seasons now and is out injured and only played a couple of games this season. Also while his replacement isn't playing too badly at all.

This is what I don't understand and also you want us to get in a more experienced keeper in now, which I don't agree with at the moment :DD
 
Well that was better from Arsenal. Gervinho is one resilient fella! What I like about it is that he's not shaken when he plays shit. He keeps the same attitude for the next match and he reaps the rewards.
Even if it wasn't the best of finishes, but that's what we needed. Arsenal was dire in the first half.

Really liked Ramsey finish in the 2nd half too.

3 more points in the bag, this gives us some calm now for the rest of the group stages.
 
Looks like getting a penalty will be difficult for us this season, yet again! The ball hits his hand in front of ref :)) . I think the scoreline doesn`t say the whole match... we were easily open at the back imo. Verm gives the ball away(in our half :CONFUSE: ) n gives too many FK for late tackles n starting to rocket up the pitch about 20x leaving us exposed. Jenkins is warming up to me, Sagna has a battle on his hands.

Gervinho is a player that doesn`t put his head down. Your right about that Rent! he doesn`t know when to Le sulk :LOL: Pod goal was pure strength n Cazorla is getting a lot of looks at goal. Once , again Arteta leads in passing % at 87% :WORSHIP:
 
I've been thinking about some ironic comment that is as eloquent as the above cited, but decided to end this discussion for once and forever:



Joe Hart is the best GK ever.


Hope Arsenal win against Olympiakos this evening.

Hart's performance tonight ended the discussion. Infact there was no discussion, you were just talking bollocks lol
 
Good win in the end, Ramsey's (Who has been playing well lately) goal was lovely and a good assist from Giroud. The poor guy needs a goal, but he plays pretty well otherwise. Lets hope he plays against West Ham and can get a goal.

Gervinho likes scoring at the moment, it is nice to see and lets hope it continues. He is so erratic though, it makes me laugh :LOL:

The one thing that is worrying me is Vermaelen, he has made a lot of mistakes recently and he needs to hold off on his runs. It is like now he is captain, he is playing with complete abandon for everything else?! he needs to calm down and get back to basics and start defending well first and doing his marauding forward second.

Lets hope he can contain himself and somebody talks to him about it, otherwise somebody else needs to be captain and tell him to calm the fuck down :DD
 
Looks like getting a penalty will be difficult for us this season, yet again! The ball hits his hand in front of ref :)) . I think the scoreline doesn`t say the whole match... we were easily open at the back imo. Verm gives the ball away(in our half :CONFUSE: ) n gives too many FK for late tackles n starting to rocket up the pitch about 20x leaving us exposed. Jenkins is warming up to me, Sagna has a battle on his hands.

Gervinho is a player that doesn`t put his head down. Your right about that Rent! he doesn`t know when to Le sulk :LOL: Pod goal was pure strength n Cazorla is getting a lot of looks at goal. Once , again Arteta leads in passing % at 87% :WORSHIP:

Same here, refs criteria is all over the place. I guess if you're the home side trailing, it's a penalty - look at City!

Continental European refs are getting worse by the day.

I agree about Jenkinson too! That kid is steady as a rock. I'm beginning to have serious doubts about Sagna now :D
Well... 2 great right backs? Great "problem" to have!
 
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