Arsenal Thread

I've been accused here of labeling him as a new Chamakh (all I said was to lower expectations because he could turn out to be like his Moroccan colleague, totally devoid of confidence).

But I'm gonna defend Gidoud here. Our guys are breaking his neck, FFS! Gibbs cannot cross if his life depends on it. On a day we play Santos and Sagna we will be able to judge the aerial aspect of his game.

As for the missed chances, yes, he's looking too nervous. Both chances he's put wide in a very similar way. He's not a cold blooded hitman, but I wouldn't write him off just yet. He still shows good movement to get into those positions (the Diaby pass was a carbon copy of Cazorla's in our 1st match). And to me he just had a bad day, that's all.

Against Stoke in the 2nd half I could tell he was "feeling the game" and was confident when he tried some fancy finishing (that volley and the cheeky lobby). He just needs to open his tally at Arsenal, then the goals will start coming.
 
What I like about Giroud is his strength, He win lots of aerial balls. A player needs a start be fore he can shine. He can also pass 'decently' I can`t remember a player ,we had with that strength. I remember seeing players bullying us. The jury is still out on Giroud :))
 
I like Giroud, watched as much of him as I could last season an he was great!
I'm probably bias cause I had him in my ML squad and he scored 51 goals in something like 42 games to give me promotion :D
 
Last year he was together with Belhanda and Hazard the most influential player in Ligue 1.
It is not possible that he has forgotten how to play football and you can't blame it on the difference between both leagues as Hazard seems to adapt well enough (just like most of the Newcastle French players, Evra and countless other Franch players).

The fact is that in the match against Liverpool, Giroud has had two decent passes and not a single decent cross. In the first half he missed a chance, but it wasn't a sitter.
 
Taylor_94 said:
I like Giroud, watched as much of him as I could last season an he was great!
I'm probably bias cause I had him in my ML squad and he scored 51 goals in something like 42 games to give me promotion :D
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It's true, we develop a soft spot for our ML stars :LOL:
But I tried to sign Giroud so many times and he would never come to me!
 
Rentboy said:
It's true, we develop a soft spot for our ML stars :LOL:
But I tried to sign Giroud so many times and he would never come to me!
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After the mid-season update he became impossible to sign, cause of his form IRL I'd presume, shame you couldn't get him he truly was special!
It's true there are players from my many ML's over the years that I love.. Arsenal have two Park and Giroud, Park was insane on PES6(?) stats improved incredibly fast.. Swansea have just signed another I liked from PES2010 in Ki!

Ah off-topic!
 
Taylor_94 said:
After the mid-season update he became impossible to sign, cause of his form IRL I'd presume, shame you couldn't get him he truly was special!
It's true there are players from my many ML's over the years that I love.. Arsenal have two Park and Giroud, Park was insane on PES6(?) stats improved incredibly fast.. Swansea have just signed another I liked from PES2010 in Ki!

Ah off-topic!
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Makes sense from a PES 2012 point of view. But the weird thing is that it was on PES 2011 last year and I couldn't sign Giroud for my Parma side for some reason. Then I started another ML with Leeds (still PES 2011) and the same happened! Go figure :P
 
for one he's got very good movement and thus getting the chances, just needs to work on his finishing which probably will come with confidence.

So, no he's not a Carroll esque donkey (I was cringing at him flicking the ball on with MOTD creaming themselves over it)
 
Otherwise our latest FA Cup trophy won against a certain team in North West England would be in peril :D
 
gerd said:
Last year he was together with Belhanda and Hazard the most influential player in Ligue 1.
It is not possible that he has forgotten how to play football and you can't blame it on the difference between both leagues as Hazard seems to adapt well enough (just like most of the Newcastle French players, Evra and countless other Franch players).

The fact is that in the match against Liverpool, Giroud has had two decent passes and not a single decent cross. In the first half he missed a chance, but it wasn't a sitter.
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Reminds me of Gourcuff and Chamakh.
Both of them are now unkwown.
I just hope Belhanda will not fuck up his career like Chamakh did.
 
Jesus leave Giroud alone!

The guy will find the back of the net! he missed a chance and you guys stated a rout on him like he is useless! The guy is trying very hard and will eventualy start scoring! its not like were having a wonderfull attacking side that create chances evey 5mins.
 
He was clearly nervous in front of goal. Once he opens his tally with Arsenal things will get better.
Our fears as fans are comprehensible, given what happened to Chamakh. But each player is unique, so let's hope Giroud finds some good form.

I read somewhere that it took 8 matches for Dennis Bergkamp to score?
 
It sounds like Sagna has been opening his mouth for some unknown reason and is really out of character.

Really makes no sense when the club are doing well (Sort of well) and trying to move forward from Van Persie and Song being sold for him to bring it up and start questioning it. I'm sure Wenger will be pissed off about it, but it sounds like (if the quotes are true) he will be off in the next couple of seasons if we are not successful. That is all very well, but why stir this up now, just has no positive for Arsenal and he should really be quiet.

Bloody footballers, why can't they use there brains?!
 
BobbyBox said:
It sounds like Sagna has been opening his mouth for some unknown reason and is really out of character.

Really makes no sense when the club are doing well (Sort of well) and trying to move forward from Van Persie and Song being sold for him to bring it up and start questioning it. I'm sure Wenger will be pissed off about it, but it sounds like (if the quotes are true) he will be off in the next couple of seasons if we are not successful. That is all very well, but why stir this up now, just has no positive for Arsenal and he should really be quiet.

Bloody footballers, why can't they use there brains?!
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Well, the Arsenal w/o him atm has done well in his absence. He might be nervous, getting attention will have the boss giving him a talk of assurance. It could be an old interview that is being posted now.
 
BobbyBox said:
It sounds like Sagna has been opening his mouth for some unknown reason and is really out of character.

Really makes no sense when the club are doing well (Sort of well) and trying to move forward from Van Persie and Song being sold for him to bring it up and start questioning it. I'm sure Wenger will be pissed off about it, but it sounds like (if the quotes are true) he will be off in the next couple of seasons if we are not successful. That is all very well, but why stir this up now, just has no positive for Arsenal and he should really be quiet.

Bloody footballers, why can't they use there brains?!
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I was surprised to see this too, but it wasn't out of the blue. Apparently it was an interview for a French magazine.
He's the quiet type, but Bac also strikes me as the "no-bullshit" type and give you straight answers. Well, I think the interviewer got what they wanted.

I cannot blame him totally though. I personally think it's a disgrace for the club to keep profiting on player transfers in times like these, with your best players leaving every season and lots of pressure on.
And as if the squad wasn't thin enough, there's talk of further profits by selling Arshavin and Chamakh to Russia.

It's very disheartening all this. Us fans are "stuck" with our team, but looking from the perspective of players, especially as you approach 30 and don't seem any closer to winning something, I can't blame them if they want to piss off away from this club right now.

The only thing I disagree about this is doing so in public, is leaving our man Arsene in a difficult position.
 
Yeah you can't blame a player for asking questions and wanting answers, fans should want the same.

The way he's talking is it was Arsenal's decision to a profit on Song as im sure he's spoken to Song about it and wouldn't have questioned it if he knew it was Song who had angled for the move.
 
Rentboy said:
I was surprised to see this too, but it wasn't out of the blue. Apparently it was an interview for a French magazine.
He's the quiet type, but Bac also strikes me as the "no-bullshit" type and give you straight answers. Well, I think the interviewer got what they wanted.

I cannot blame him totally though. I personally think it's a disgrace for the club to keep profiting on player transfers in times like these, with your best players leaving every season and lots of pressure on.
And as if the squad wasn't thin enough, there's talk of further profits by selling Arshavin and Chamakh to Russia.

It's very disheartening all this. Us fans are "stuck" with our team, but looking from the perspective of players, especially as you approach 30 and don't seem any closer to winning something, I can't blame them if they want to piss off away from this club right now.

The only thing I disagree about this is doing so in public, is leaving our man Arsene in a difficult position.
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Exactly I can understand his frustration and if he wants to go then fine, but to be so open about it is not right and is detrimental to the club. The only reason I can see of him doing it is to put himself in the shop window, which just isn't very nice at all.

The other stuff you have said, you know I disagree with so I won't go over that again :))
 
BobbyBox said:
Exactly I can understand his frustration and if he wants to go then fine, but to be so open about it is not right and is detrimental to the club. The only reason I can see of him doing it is to put himself in the shop window, which just isn't very nice at all.

The other stuff you have said, you know I disagree with so I won't go over that again :))
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Nah if he wanted to go in the shop window he would have done it before the transfer deadline, wouldn't he? Otherwise, he didn't pick the best timing to do that :LOL:
I just think he got asked questions and took it all out of his chest.
I don't see Bac as the kind of guy who would force an issue, but then again everyone's got their limits.
He said he was as surprised as us fans to see Song leave. Come to think of it, I still didn't digest why Wenger did it and didn't go after a replacement.
Even before Song left, Wenger said Arsenal was after 2 more signings, but these never happened. Something must have gone terribly wrong there, but I can't help but feel the issue was mismanaged.
In the end, even though I was delighted we signed Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla, we still ended up losing 2 key players. So inevitably there's that feeling of "2 steps forward, 2 steps back" for me.

We both know we won't agree on this though, and I have no hopes in making you agree. Your optimism seems unbreakable :D
 
Rentboy said:
Nah if he wanted to go in the shop window he would have done it before the transfer deadline, wouldn't he? Otherwise, he didn't pick the best timing to do that :LOL:
I just think he got asked questions and took it all out of his chest.
I don't see Bac as the kind of guy who would force an issue, but then again everyone's got their limits.
He said he was as surprised as us fans to see Song leave. Come to think of it, I still didn't digest why Wenger did it and didn't go after a replacement.
Even before Song left, Wenger said Arsenal was after 2 more signings, but these never happened. Something must have gone terribly wrong there, but I can't help but feel the issue was mismanaged.
In the end, even though I was delighted we signed Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla, we still ended up losing 2 key players. So inevitably there's that feeling of "2 steps forward, 2 steps back" for me.

We both know we won't agree on this though, and I have no hopes in making you agree. Your optimism seems unbreakable :D
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He is injured at the moment so I don't think him saying it earlier would have done anything, now he will be fit soon and ready for the January transfer window or next summer.

Yeah me and you just keep going around in circles :LOL: but seein how Diaby and arteta are playing, our defence and the 3 new signings sharing assists and goals, I don't think we have taken two steps back. But you are right of course I would much rather those two were still in our team.
 
Jack n Diaby were both players that weren't in contention. Early days no? and the winter transfer will be vital and must use the funds by then. Diaby was a surprise and Jack , not sure . He's been out longer then Diaby . He started training w/ a ball now. Song left, because he wanted more money and Im sure there's more then what's being said. Players hold a club for random is being denied.

We are taking advantage and loosening the salary. I think there is a plan to bring a player that will sell merchandise and having a selected group to bring comfort. We have a solid middle and lack on the wings(crossing ability). Players have until the next window to impress me think. Seeing Poldoski back tracking to the corner flag is impressive to then, bring the ball up the pitch. Its a mix of counter-attacking n passing the ball around. The Arsenal of old mixed w/ the Arsenal we know. Look if we can syart paying players at the market price we can take advantage n keep the players from exudos! Song left imo is casuality of change wrong timing.
 
At Arsenal, Song would have been given the same pay raise he got now at Barca. I guess he wanted to talk now, he wanted a revision ASAP... even though he still had 2 or 3 years left. Well, if you sign a 5 year contract you're running that risk. What became of signatures on contracts and keeping your part in the agreement, eh?
There are reports that Song was acting like a right prick during pre-season, prompting Wenger to do something.
I still think we didn't need to sell him. With Diaby and Arteta in this current form, Song would obviously be benched and would realise that being a prick sometimes can harm no one else but yourself.
Anyway, we don't know what really went on for sure. When the Dein family gets involved, there may be more to it than meets the eye.

I want to believe we're alright and got ourselves covered, guys. Don't get me wrong. However the realist in me knows that midfield options consisting of Diaby, Wilshere, Rosicky and Ramsey tend not to last a whole season without a couple of lengthy injuries.

I think the biggest positive so far is our defense indeed. The same players from last season, but this time they've got some direction. Bouldy might be the signing of the season for us! :)
I hope I'm not saying it too early, but we definitely look better defensively.
 
Three clean sheets at the start of the season for the first time in 88 years.

Some of us had been banging on about your lack of organisation at the back in the past but it's finally been addressed. Now you just need to sort out your medical team. ;)
 
I'm getting in here early for prediction o'clock - I think Arsenal are going to shock everyone and finish second in the league (behind City). There. Neck well and truly out.

There's just something very coherent about that team, and despite the negativity it has decent depth in key positions (aside from CF).
 
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