Arsenal Thread

PU6HY said:
I don't know Jonny. You tell us as you were asking for Wengers head a hell of a lot last season! Saying he had to go etc. The above statement sounds as though you are backing him now. Fickle?
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wrong. i hardly slated wenger. i simply said in here at this time last year that if we dont get top 4 with the side we had last season, he has to go.

your fickle ;) not me
 
There's a Pic with Podolski n Jack in today's training ,where Podolski is pointing to the #10 on Jack's training top w/ his thumb up. That's giving the approval he is worthy and Im taking it as Jack is still the player on the up. Im a little worry his dip might take some doing before we get the Jack we all know. Im praying for the best :PRAY:
 
Yeah if he is back in say a month or so, I don't expect him to be properly back (as in playing like he was) until nearing the last few months of the season. He has been out for so long, it is going to take a lot of time for him to get properly fit and firing on all cylinders.
 
jonneymendoza said:
wrong. i hardly slated wenger. i simply said in here at this time last year that if we dont get top 4 with the side we had last season, he has to go.

your fickle ;) not me
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You didn't slate him?! You sure about that? I always said to you be careful what you wish for. He's now the best person for you? You are like a see-saw.

Fickle is one thing I'm not fella.
 
Hey, give jonney a break. He was in a job he absolutely hated; who better to take it out on than Wenger?

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He was an absolute bargain! Didn't Wenger buy him for like less than half a million or something? lol

Turned out to be a hell of a player!
 
Very tough game today, This will be a game where every Tom,dick and Harry will be saying we miss Song if we lose.

I hope we win because I really can't stand to see Tony Pulis happy with his smug little face. I hope we win more because of this reason than actually getting the 3 points :LOL:

Hopefully we can get through the game unscathed and with the 3 points, but Stoke seem to up their game against us for some reason, or up there cuntyness one of the two.

Big test! maybe one too soon for our players just getting used to things, but we will see :))
 
Milanista said:
Apparently Song never wanted to leave Arsenal... but then again, this is from the Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ong-I-wanted-to-stay-at-Arsenal-for-life.html
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His agent came up with lots of bullshit, but if he didn't want to go Arsene wouldn't have sold him, I'm quite sure of that.

There were other underlying reasons, he said he wanted to go. We could have kept him and I don't think he would have kicked up too much of a fuss staying. But Arsene got offered the money he did and obviously thought that it was a good deal. Rumours of Song getting too big for his boots etc etc lead me to believe Arsene had other reasons to get rid apart from the money.

I think personally (Just my Feeling) that he was asked to play more defensively but rebeled against this, this is why we saw him further up the field and assisting. I don't really think Arsene gave him the permission to do so. He did some good assists and some could say if he didn't then we would have lost etc, but if he had actually played more defensively, then maybe we wouldn't have lost as many goals as we did?

Anyway, who knows? we will never know the full truth (Maybe if Wenger releases a book maybe, but then it is just his word).

I really don't care too about Song now anyway, he did it the right way (Publicly anyway) and hopefully he gets games. I wish him all of the best.
 
Unbeaten and two clean sheets! :DD

Defensively we are looking better which is great. I thought Jenkinson and Diaby played well today. I don't think we missed Song today, but maybe Van Persie ;))

But I think Podolski looked alot better today and got stuck in well, which was great to see. Giroud still finding his feet, but with the effort near the end shows he doesn't lack confidence.

Cazorla dictated most of the first half and he does look really good, hopefully he can stay fit for the season.

Not a great start to the season, but not the worst either, today was a very tricky game, we just need to get our sharpness in front of goal and we should be ok.
 
Benni said:
Anyone think Giroud will struggle in Premier League?? He doesn't convince me.
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It's too early to judge him, but i'm thinking about Chamakh and then tend to agree with you. Those type of players don't suit Arsenal although both are fantastic players.

I saw the last 10 minutes of the match against Stoke (just back from holiday in France) and i saw Wenger's reaction after Girouds goal attempt with the long range lob. Nearly a contender for a goal of the season, but it seemed as if Wenger was furious at Giroud for attempting this...This sums up Wengers problem with that kind of player. It seems as if Wenger wants his players to pass the ball into the goal where players like Chamakh and Giroud have a far more direct approach towards the game...

PS: Is it true that Sahin will go to Liverpool and not Arsenal? I really don't understand that unless Madrid prefer him to go to Liverpool because they don't play CL...

PPS: in my country we seem to have good players: Hazard, Dembele, Fellaini...
 
He went to Pool because Xabi told him to do it and Arsenal backed out of the deal anyway :P.

Liverpool offered to pay 70% of his wages too.

Arsenal look terrible in attacking third. You lot will miss van Persie imo. Podolski and Giroud can't replace one man :P. Shocking ^^ (and VP scored a beauty yesterday :D).
 
That Giroud strike late on was good, but if he could have played a nicely weighted ball to Ramsey then Ramsey would have a better chance of tucking it away, I think that is why Arsene was annoyed.

I don't think we look terrible in the attacking third, we don't look deadly, but terrible is too strong a word. Yes we probably could have done with a striker that has played in the Premier league many times and scored 30goals in the premier league last season.

But Podolski and Giroud have just come in and are getting used to the Prem, if they scored in these first two games it would be great, but they need time and it is WAY too early to say how good or shit they are going to be.
 
No I have agree with Info, Arsenal were awful upfront today....no offence intended because I wanted them to win (i have spft spot for gooner)

But wenger teams just want to pass it into net. What is the plan b?
 
Benni said:
No I have agree with Info, Arsenal were awful upfront today....no offence intended because I wanted them to win (i have spft spot for gooner)

But Wenger teams just want to pass it into net. What is the plan b?
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That is your opinion, but imo we weren't awful, we just couldn't score. Podolski looked much better and Giroud had glimpses, which I thought were positive.

I thought his plan B was bringing on Walcott and the Ox and injecting pace into the team, which was working.

This Plan B shit really fucking annoys me. If he had no plan B he would make no subs and leave every body on the field.

He made Gervinho come more central as well (Although he did have a bad game). There are lots of subtle changes if things aren't working. This plan B bollocks makes it sound like Wenger doesn't react to what is happening in front of him and it just isn't right to say.
 
I was impress by the defending as a unit. We change the concept to track back. This team is nothing like last season it was build around rvp in the attacking perspective. Plz step up and be noted!!!! wenger doesnt need any defense player the way we track back. I want another attacker or play w 2 ST up front.
 
Don't panic, Arsenal are almost there...the goals will follow. It's much more important that they could keep their nets clean in both matches. Stoke at home is a very difficult match.
Wenger does have a plan B.
 
Making a straight swap player for player isn't a plan b! Wenger doesnt seem to throw on anpther strikers and change system and formation like other teams in the league do.

Subbing the winger for another winger and keeping it 4 3 3 isn't a plan b.
 
Santi shot how many from afar? Giroud even shot as well(too far really) , only Poldoski is guilty of walking the ball into the net. I find it weird ,because he has a strong powerful kick.

You should of said Arsenal were shooting blanks! this plan B is just daft. Arsene change was to bring in pace and a team that has been playing abit longer. I swear some ppl seem to write what the media says ' to sale a theory'

Arry said" ManCity plays like Barca" and now everybody is calling them the barca of the PL. TAG your it!! Next weekend, Liverpool and this week deadline transfers, and we need to sell or loan n buy!
 
gerd said:
It's too early to judge him, but i'm thinking about Chamakh and then tend to agree with you. Those type of players don't suit Arsenal although both are fantastic players.

I saw the last 10 minutes of the match against Stoke (just back from holiday in France) and i saw Wenger's reaction after Girouds goal attempt with the long range lob. Nearly a contender for a goal of the season, but it seemed as if Wenger was furious at Giroud for attempting this...This sums up Wengers problem with that kind of player. It seems as if Wenger wants his players to pass the ball into the goal where players like Chamakh and Giroud have a far more direct approach towards the game...

PS: Is it true that Sahin will go to Liverpool and not Arsenal? I really don't understand that unless Madrid prefer him to go to Liverpool because they don't play CL...
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Totally agree with this, Gerd. I had exactly the same thoughts about Wenger's reaction to Giroud lobbying the keeper. It's the kind of stuff you have to encourage, not reprehend. He's our Centre Forward, for crying out loud! If Wenger can't understand his instinct, then I'm disappointed. And it's not as if Ramsey was wide open, he had a Stoke defender marking him. Plus, the keeper was asking to be lobbied.
My reaction to that was "WOW, well done"! He nearly grabbed a sensational goal, in a match where our attack was pretty much innocuous, and that lobby was cheeky as hell. He had attempted a nice volley from a corner earlier too.

Today I had the clear impression that Giroud is starting to get comfortable and even begins to dare trying some new things. This is what we need, a striker in full confidence.

Right now he's an unknown quantity. He could turn out a very good buy or a second Chamakh. I hope he proves he's more than a pretty face :D

I am also one of Diaby's biggest critics but today he didn't have a bad match at all. It's unbelievable, seeing him play 90 minutes like that.

I liked what our new guy Podolski brought too, more in terms of attitude. Goal chances he will have more, I'm sure. But Cazorla is the highlight of this team for me right now. Such a good signing! He's the most classic possible type of a playmaker. He should be our number 10 (nothing against Jack though). But he is exactly what Arsenal lacked since Fabregas went. And dare I say he's a better specialist than Fabregas! Cesc was a really good creative midfielder who could score goals, but when I see Cazorla dribbling past defenders, that's the typical playmaker of my dreams, who can do it all, pass, shoot, dribble.

Overall, I will see the silver lining of it. The fact that Arsenal has 2 clean sheets and looks much more organised in defence (maybe the Bould effect already). Today when I saw Mannone I feared for the worst. But Mannone wasn't exposed at all, thanks to a solid shift from our defence. And that's the difference from previous performances we had there at Stoke.
Worthy of note that Mertesacker is surprisingly composed on the ball and most of the times he seems unable to jump at all! I was expecting him to be a monster with aerial balls and limited with his foot. But it's all the opposite :P

All in all the team played well, I must say. Our midfield three (lots of praise here for Arteta too, who was MOTM) was excellent, our defence is doing its job. The only area where we were found wanting is the attack.

Gervinho, once again, boy oh boy... I cannot see this boy doing it for us in the Premier League. Even if he's full of energy and has all good intentions, he's just too frustrating. He beats 1 or 2 defenders and then lets the ball slip over the line. He seems to have little or no end product. With him, Walcott and Arshavin in poor form, maybe Wenger should be using The Ox more as a winger instead of midfielder.

But not only the front 3, but attacking as a team, Arsenal look toothless. I'm all for possession football, but you have to be incisive sometimes. Only Cazorla seems capable of having a go from outside the box. The rest of the team seems allergic to it - and it's quite telling that only the new boys are trying long range efforts: Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski, at times. Wenger clearly didn't have time to instil his irritating philosophy of never shooting from long range.
I really miss this aspect of the game. I was looking at how other teams attack those loose balls from set pieces (look at Kagawa's goal, after a great long range effort from Cleverley). Look at Pienaar's screamer against Villa. That's the kind of thing I miss Arsenal doing, and Wenger should find a balance there.

gerd said:
PPS: in my country we seem to have good players: Hazard, Dembele, Fellaini...
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Totally agree with this. Belgium have quite a generation shaping up for the World Cup. Hazard came justifying all the talk about him and Fellaini ate Man United alive on Monday. I have become a fan of Dembele since last season, and I'll complete that list with Vermaelen, who is not venturing to attack as much as before but still shows he's very good on the ball. And that Sunderland keeper Mignolet looks quite good to me.
 
OX doesn`t want to play on the wing though. Day 1 Wenger asked him his desired position his Dad(agent) replied "The middle" pinch of salt he`s a winger who tends to go into the middle...podolski innit?
 
Benni said:
Making a straight swap player for player isn't a plan b! Wenger doesnt seem to throw on anpther strikers and change system and formation like other teams in the league do.

Subbing the winger for another winger and keeping it 4 3 3 isn't a plan b.
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Well that is your definition of a plan B, not mine.

It is such a cliche term now and one that makes me want to pluck both of my eyes out whenever I hear it.
 
Treetopp said:
Can anyone please explain to me why Stoke supporters booed Ramsey!?
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Because they are morons! 'Uhh Duurrr Dey booo our player so we boo derss Ugghhhh' they felt like they have to boo, because we booed Shawcross. They don't seem to understand why we booed Shawcross and they don't realise that them booing Ramsey makes no sense and makes them look like fucking idiots.

Pulis and his fans moronic clapping and smiling when they thought refs decisions weren't going their way. They really are dicks, they give it hard and when our players do the same, they go all whiny and stupid.

They really are a team to easily dislike.
 
That was such negative shit football by stoke. They were playing with six cb's the whole game, have to say the American looked good in th emiddle
 
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