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WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

i also notice there are only white fans lol could raise a few questions
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Fatality said:
i also notice there are only white fans lol could raise a few questions
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LOL! I've noticed that for some years now. Is it that difficult to include diversity in this crowds?

Oh well, I'm sure their intentions are not bad.

I want a PES2008 VIDEO!!!!!!!!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

jflores said:
LOL! I've noticed that for some years now. Is it that difficult to include diversity in this crowds?

Oh well, I'm sure their intentions are not bad.

I want a PES2008 VIDEO!!!!!!!!
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True but is it that hard to put other ethnicities in the crowd

PS: I want a vid too lol :lmao:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

In the other scans I noticed a lot of fans with white hair, maybe it was a hat, but all of them had the same hat?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

that's probably why the medics are black hoping it might even things out a bit
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Punzz said:
just made a gif of that :D

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lol breakdance?! 5mins after that he scored a stunning goal from a free kick.

actualy this is the real move

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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Head over to the blog

WENB got full tranlation of the GAMESTAR Germany PES 2008 article.

Very interesting reading, good article
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

The Ronaldo/Drogba´s move is also performed sometimes by Roberto Carlos. And Quaresma too... xD I hope not only Ronaldo and Drogba can do it.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Less than 24 hours to see a video! And i want to see a great video. At least i want to see a video with great moves, good speed, new features and a good sound! The graphics are not so important to me.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

For me, the most pertinent quote from the full translation is:

"But we didn't see anything of a learning or adapting AI during our 3 hour trial-session. The gameplay seems to be only minimally changed from the brilliant predecessor."

:(
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

winston said:
For me, the most pertinent quote from the full translation is:

"But we didn't see anything of a learning or adapting AI during our 3 hour trial-session. The gameplay seems to be only minimally changed from the brilliant predecessor."

:(
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That quote also hit me too. Oh well, still some time left till release
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Iori Yagami said:
Less than 24 hours to see a video! And i want to see a great video. At least i want to see a video with great moves, good speed, new features and a good sound! The graphics are not so important to me.
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How do you know this? Or are you just guessing?

I agree with winston

:( if the game is only subtely different to the 'brilliant' pre-desessor
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

They also said though you can put a certain number of people in a wall YOU CANT choose who is in the wall, least thats what i took from this


"Now the big guys cover the short corner, the smaller fellows stand on the goalies side. Dwarfs like Claude Makelele don't find their place in the wall anymore.Adding to that you can now decide, how many players block the way. If you predict a direct shot, put more players in the wall. If you believe the ball might be passed, a three man wall will suffice.
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This implies its automated whos in
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

The article leaves me with very mixed feelings.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

"If the decisive goal is scored shortly before the end of the game, even the players on the bench in the background come running to join the celebration."

that's soooo cool
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

While the ends move with the wind, the rest of the haircut looks cemented with hairspray
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Oh dear.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

haha theres no way, absolutely no way this video, even if it is in game footage is going to appease people. What do people want from it? Personally id be happy just to see someone dribble and what the new shooting system is like, especially its sensitivity, unfortunately on the DVD im sure will not be game footage
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

santiago said:
"If the decisive goal is scored shortly before the end of the game, even the players on the bench in the background come running to join the celebration."

that's soooo cool
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Are you serious?

WOOOOOOOPIE!!

This is exactly what I had on my wishlist for this version. Thanks NOKAMI ;-)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Wow i missed that, i always loved when the team celebrated in evo 6 by running off and celebrating together, good times
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

" the players on the bench in the background come running to join the celebration."

OMG
WHAT THAT ? :D
Are you serious?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Exclusive Translation Of German PC Gamestar Magazine (thank Falko Windisch and WENB team)

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/


PAGE 1

Top Left: The face of Christiano Ronaldo looks incredibly real. The protagonists show more emotions then ever during celebrations.

Top Right: Freekicks fly with visibly more power towards the goal. Shots and Headers will be more dynamic as well.

Bottom Left: 3D-menu: During substitutions, you can see in the little window, which players on the bench you have at disposal.

Bottom Right: Shirt-pulling is possible in the new installation. Though we could not detect this unfair action in our Pre-Version.

Main: Somethings is changing - the new PES is much more than a repetition with changes in detail. We have tested the new features ourselves. Do you believe in coincidence? Konami had just presented young star Cristiano Ronaldo as cover face for PES 2008. Now we discover a brand new dive-feature in the first playable Version. Just to remind you: Cristiano Ronaldo was memorable during the WC 2006 mainly by his performance as an actor. We don't believe in a connection, the Portuguese dribble star meanwhile belongs to the best and well known players on our planet. Still a nice sidenote.

"The PES-fans" have repeatedly requested the dive-feature, now we have implemented it into the game. If the new move does not get accepted, it will be gone next year", Konamis PR-Manager explains. Sure we tried the free flying in the first matches. For this, we keep the shoulder-buttons of the Microsoft-controller pressed and perform the dive with the left trigger. The first amateurish attempts are punished by the official immediately with a yellow card. If the referee is standing in a bad position, he gives a Penalty.

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Top Left: Frequent cut-scenes spice up the master league mode. The graphical quality of the little movies is more on the weak side.

Top Right: If the decisive goal is scored shortly before the end of the game, even the players on the bench in the background come running to join the celebration.

Main: The game play on. But soon after we succeed. We dribble around a defender and enter the box. Then we slow down, let the defender come near from behind. A second opponent closes in from the left. Now our player goes to the ground, the ref points at the mark - penalty! Other than the dive we got to try other new moves. If we keep the shoulder buttons pressed when being on height with the box, the winger now turns towards the goal. From this position, crosses can be played harder and with better precision. If we want to get rid of our opponent with a hook, we push the ball a little ahead and sprint behind it.

The quick free-kick feature was also improved. Before the opposing team can form, we pass the ball to a teammate with the analogue-stick. Wall building One of the biggest complaints of PES has also been taken care of by Konami: the wall during free-kicks. Now the big guys cover the short corner, the smaller fellows stand on the goalies side. Dwarfs like Claude Makelele don't find their place in the wall anymore! Adding to that you can now decide, how many players block the way. If you predict a direct shot, put more players in the wall. If you believe the ball might be passed, a three man wall will suffice.

Free-kicks now have considerably more power, so do headers and shots. Especially a running volley screams through the air in a way, that you can barely follow the ball with your eyes. New animations have also been added, like the jumping slide tackle. Doing this, the defender completely extends his legs straight and plays the ball with the underside of the boot. Beware a leg being in between ... painstruck or happy faces further add emotions on the pitch. Best shown are the mimic features during goal celebrations. But defenders also don't stay expression-less after a conceded goal, but sometimes curse along.

Public Viewing
Almost perfect animations always were responsible for the high level of realism of the series. In PES 2008 now excellent player models come along. On the cheek of the new Bayern player Frank Ribery we find his scar. Also ex-world footballer of the year Ronaldinho looks all identical to the original including even the headband. But the developers cheated a little with the movement of his hair. While the ends move with the wind, the rest of the haircut looks cemented with hairspray. The haircut of italian Andrea Pirlo is another good example for this. The developers did not put much focus on the graphical quality of the stadia and the audience - until now at least. More consideration is put on the licenses.

This time a lot more teams are said to have original names and kits. In the pre-version the data was from the last season. The reason: license-negotiations are still in full progress. We would have liked to tell you more about the new Teamvision-feature. But we didn't see anything of a learning or adapting AI during our 3 hour trial-session. The gameplay seems to be only minimally changed from the brilliant predecessor.

Andreas Szedlak: The early version still suffered from slowdowns, further the kits are from last season. That I still would have loved to take the disc home, says it all. Thanks to the perfected ball-physics the game wins on dynamic. And the players look considerably more real due to the new graphics engine.

Latest strenghts and weaknesses:
- Football was never more realistic
- Interesting new dive feature
- Regular slowdowns
- Weak stadium graphics
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Is it me or are Ronaldo's wrists in that celebration pic just a bit wrong?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Adding to that you can now decide, how many players block the way. If you predict a direct shot, put more players in the wall. If you believe the ball might be passed, a three man wall will suffice.
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How fast can we decide and choose how many and which players to include in the wall?

If the decisive goal is scored shortly before the end of the game, even the players on the bench in the background come running to join the celebration.
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:D:D:D

New animations have also been added, like the jumping slide tackle.
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Anyone of yous dive and i'll surely go Cantona-style on you :cool:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

lol youre right, they look swollen
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Big News!!!

New unlockable feature in the PES SHOP:

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Reverse Gravity!

:D
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Cool can't wait to see a video...

(that's your cue to link me to a youtube vid cause I don't even know that player's name)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

The developers did not put much focus on the graphical quality of the stadia and the audience - until now at least.
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I seriously hope that changes. Atleast make the fucking grass greener.
 
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ThomasGOAL said:
The gameplay seems to be only minimally changed from the brilliant predecessor.
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Crap, crap, crap crap crap. This morning, after seeing the new shots, my PES\FIFA position had changed. The new screenshots looked better than the old ones and things seemed on the up (the body stance and facial expressions looked fab). But now this little beauty of a quote comes out.

If it's the same old PES with next-gen graphics then you can get stuffed - I mean, if it plays the same, why not stick to PES6? I've already got that, and I'm already bored of it - what on earth should compel me to buy the same thing again, for the umpteenth year straight? Diving (aka another way to get screwed online)? Good luck with that, although I'm sure you'll sell a bucketload anyway, KonEAmi.

After all the quotes from Seabass saying "lessons have been learnt from the 360 release, we're bucking our ideas up" and all that... Haha. Should have expected it I suppose.

And all the people who come out with (when someone plays it and states the game is "crap"), "everyone hates a new version when it first comes out but then you adapt to it and you love it" - well now, this year, it's a bit different. The first proper review says it's virtually the same. Which means, to me, that it will be virtually the same, and there's no way to talk around that (although I'll save a few breaths of laughter for the first guy who says "well he's only played it for three hours, that's not long enough for the game to grow on you").

Oh man, please don't think I'm saying this to be an arsehole. Look at my posts from this morning, I was even saying in the FIFA thread that it was a role reversal and that I was looking forward to PES. I'm absolutely gutted.
 
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