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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

JayM said:
Adonis, Suff, is there still things you know that you can't tell us yet?
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Yes, which Im surprised about.

Regarding graphics, you guys just dont listen. Ive said a million times its from the beta and will improve. Is there a reason why you dont believe me?
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

You know what provides atmosphere more than a few cutscenes?

-Authentic looking teams.
-Real looking players, wearing real jerseys, on real pitches.
-Amazing ALIVE crowd sound effects.
-A Commentator that conveys all the different emotions regarding a play.

That's what provides atmosphere.... that's how KONAMI should have spent the last 18 months improving...
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Agreed.

Fatality, absorb that post you moron and you might understand something.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

adonis the ''secrets u have can u tell them to us after the 5 th july coz that is when the NDA IS LIFTED RIGHT?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Adonis - these things you know about: Can you not tell us now because of the NDA?

And if so - does this mean you can tell us on the 5th?


AARRRRGGGhh

ProweMan beat me to it - Great minds think alike eh!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Yak said:
@thomasgoal: so it´s definitely not robinho taking the free kick :) it looks more like the number 11 guy from ML Castello
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That had already been established.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

lol fatlip same question ... 2 great minds :p
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

hey hey no need to get personal here, i assure you sir i am no moron, im more of what you would call a player who enjoys playing and doesnt get into the finer details per se. I honestly would not care, and i say this without jest nor the need for confrontation, i wouldnt care if the graphics were the same as 6...at all, the commentary i dont listen to period, i believe technically and this is from listening to various madden/fifa/nhl/nba games taht commentary will never really be more than than another aesthetic touch to these games. Crowd roars...not really either

My focus is gameplay...the outside shell can hang for all i care
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

ProWeMan said:
adonis the ''secrets u have can u tell them to us after the 5 th july coz that is when the NDA IS LIFTED RIGHT?
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No mate. You see we have a 'gentlemans agreement' with our contacts. I cant say anything until Im allowed. If we blab we lose our contacts, not something I wanna do right now ;)

I will speak to them and ask if he can let us have an exclusive on some stuff.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

adonis dont tell us is for the best in the future :) next year the year after ... if we r not dead but anyways better be tight lipped coz i think u will lose everything u gained mate
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

adonis why are you sticking to this beta screeens bullshit. beta here beta there. the final game will look exact the same as we can see on those pictures released till now. but anyways I want to here something about ML. will it be again fucked up with 16 teams a league and only one 8 team 2nd division. if so I will move more and more to fifa
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Idioteque Machine said:
Agreed.

Fatality, absorb that post you moron and you might understand something.
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Totally uncalled for.

I tell you, I bet Konami have 3 of the things in place mentioned in that list. I have to doubt the commentary though lol

We've only seen 5 pics showing teams and players that we recognise. Man, those pics were from such an early build its untrue!

I really cant wait to see teams like Milan vs Man Utd in their fully licensed jerseys, Kaka running through the Man Utd defense while they run into each other :lol:

Theres so much more to come, you all have been too critical at this point.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Tank0r said:
adonis why are you sticking to this beta screeens bullshit. beta here beta there. the final game will look exact the same as we can see on those pictures released till now. but anyways I want to here something about ML. will it be again fucked up with 16 teams a league and only one 8 team 2nd division. if so I will move more and more to fifa
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bye.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

I think what's most disappointing is that the screens released so far wouldn't look out of place for a build up for WE/PES on the PS2.

The only thing remotely next gen so far has been Porto's stadium and that pause screen in the PSM scans.

I fully expect the game to be fully up to scratch by release, but the build up has been so underwhelming and unprofessional when compared to other next gen games.

All they had to do was throw on a bit of lip gloss on these shots and send them out in proper sizes and resolutions. Much like with them 360 shots.

words words words

Also I know that the gameplay is what makes this game great, but I was expecting, in the very least, a noticeable jump graphics-wise from the PS2 to PS3.

I think my liking of the gameplay has also disappointed me with these latest screenshots. The pub scenes and interview bits to me look like skipping fodder that will get repetitive after the first few goes. Much like how when you win a cup, same players doing the same celebrations woop de doop.

Ugh christ I'm not even a graphics junkie but I guess that's all we've got to go on right now.

Feck this beggers exploiting our love of this game by throwing the same screenies with "Perhaps this will be in the game, and you will meet the love of your life this week and the stars are aligning for you, the colour red is important"



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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Adonis mate what do you think the chances of playing a club team in leipzig? Im thinking rather slim, its usually been used to show the liscensed national teams
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Dont listen to Tankor, Adonis he is just completely retarded.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

and rooney scoring in stopage time vs milan (old trafford eruppting ) ye adonis cant wait ;-)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

adonis, i know that i suppose you have to remain positive re: pes2008, giving your position.

But how do you KNOW that the game looks far better now?

I mean lets not forget that the guy who told you that the graphics are from an earlier build said earlier that the graphics were going to be better that next gen fifa 07
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

bilal I love you too
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

He fails to grasp the concept of PRE-BETA. Graphics and the entire game increase in Quality over time. Some developers even delay games to polish graphics.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

I love you too.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Probably more:shock:\\:o/:lmao:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

it makes no sense in marketing to release pictures of a product that looks bad and say "hey the final product will look a lot better". they released the best they have and all they will do is some kind of polishing. but you wont see big differences in the final game. remember my words
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Agreed, at least not from looking like the screens now to lets say a true next gen looking game
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

I can understand your point that your making but just like the Halo 3 multiplayer beta companies do release info early. Even if it may be bad. This is because the graphics over time do eventually get updated.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

BILAL AYUB said:
Dont listen to Tankor, Adonis he is just completely retarded.
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np mate, I really dont have time for him. At least everyone else who is critical has something constructive to say.

ProWeMan said:
and rooney scoring in stopage time vs milan (old trafford eruppting ) ye adonis cant wait ;)
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...and then to the second leg ;) lol

I agree with you Badgerman, but I ask you to trust me with the graphics. I was gutted too, by everytime I chat to my contacts they stress how amazing they look.

Everyone like to comment on me saying its from an early build, but all Im doing is passing the messege along. I get told this daily. I predicted these pictures would be poor from PSM3. Why? Like I said in the podcast my contact said all pics released will be from the same build as the press release. He wasnt wrong, so I have every reason believe everything he tells me.

@ Fatality, yeh I think national teams too. They usually focus on new licenses. Last year they made a big deal over France and Czechs. This years it will be Brazil and Portugal. Hopefully Italy will be playable too :)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

ok adonis i give up u win :(
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Guys, I know we spend a lot of money on these consoles these days..and we expect the developers like NOKAMI to push the hardware to it's limits with their games for our pleasure, however, keep in mind that this guys cannot and will not put all their kittens in one basket, they need to slowly implement all the bells and whistles as time goes by. That's just the way it is. It's an understandable business tactic if you ask me.

We will eventually see all this things added in our beloved Winning Eleven games, however all in good time my friends.

all in good time...
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

I reckon it'll look fookin awesome once it's been modded with all the highres kits, adboards etc on PC!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

I dont mean to get at you admonis, i suppose you are in the difficult position as you are and suff are pretty much the battering ram for the abuse aimed at konami.

But no matter how much konami blab on at you about the graphics being from an earlier build - ultimately, they arent going to be huuuge improvements in thye end. I mean aprt from s few bits here and there - they are going to be the same.

Otherwise it wouldnt look anything like the screens konami are prepared to relase and therefore wouldnt be a point relasing in the first place
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

Agreed. I think the graphics will definetly improve especially once we see running gameplay. But I doubt they will be 'great'.
 
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