WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

[Tank0r]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

adonis are you the former press secretary of the iraq? your talking about contacts and beta versions sounds familiar to me. you know: there are no americans here!

anyway. your are right. I have no time for this kind of bullshit

 

[ProWeMan]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

yes there will be a point to sop us from being anoyyingly whining for pics lol while they kepp working in the game ;-)

 

[lo00o2]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Weren't the psm3 screens suposed to be the newer version, more detailed ps3 version?? I think this is the biggest dissapointment.

Why do they have to show a ML match?? Now the kits and players are the so ugly. It makes it look like ps2 screenshots.

 

[JayM]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

I am perfectly happy at the moment with the graphics, though I think a modded PC version will always look better (sadly, as I can't afford to buy a better computer).

 

[twoodster]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

 

[pepper63]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 06/28/07)

suff tell him to post the scans plz .... and guys from tommorow i am going to have a new account gonna buy a new pc so fresh start and all that :p so i wont be proweman after today

as the great Gnarls Barkley song say's 'WHO CARE'S?..:lol:

 

[Adonis]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Weren't the psm3 screens suposed to be the newer version, more detailed ps3 version?? I think this is the biggest dissapointment.

I said on the podcast these pics will also be from the same build as the press release.

I dont mean to get at you adonis, i suppose you are in the difficult position as you are and suff are pretty much the battering ram for the abuse aimed at konami.

But no matter how much konami blab on at you about the graphics being from an earlier build - ultimately, they arent going to be huuuge improvements in the end. I mean apart from a few bits here and there - they are going to be the same.

Otherwise it wouldnt look anything like the screens konami are prepared to relase and therefore wouldnt be a point relasing in the first place

Its ok mate, direct all abuse at me lol

Ive said this before, the reason for the pics lookin 'meh' is because of the authorisations they have to go through. I said this a few weeks ago on the podcast and everyone doesnt wanna listen. Im not sure why. These pics came from Japan, not from Europe. They have to get authorised over in Japan, then sent to Germany. They then pic out which pics will be published in what publication etc.

Now people in the know realise magazines work 1-2 months in advance. They recieve info much earlier. I reckon my contact had those pics since mid May.

Its quite easy to imagine that these pics were from ages ago. You guys just dont want to listen. The next batch of shots will be different. Like I mentioned W.E.N.B. will be in Leipzig, I'll be sure to get some images/videos that prove my point.

 

[Tank0r]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

rofl twoodster! thats what I am talking about

 

[Han]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Yes, which Im surprised about.

Regarding graphics, you guys just dont listen. Ive said a million times its from the beta and will improve. Is there a reason why you dont believe me?

This only post tells me more than all pictures we 've got sofar!
A good listener needs only half a word...
Thanks for the info Adam

 

[Tank0r]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

pics of the final product will look identical to the ones released right now. lets hope the game will look better in motion. all i can say to adonis talking is:

 

[Chris Davies]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

The Espinas old/new shots make a good little comparison. It shows you that they are improving, just... Not as quickly as everybody else. But at least it's better than before.

*WARNING: The following contains criticism* I love the way it says in that article "watching highlights on the pub TV and seeing the fan's reactions would be a great feature" - erm, NO IT WOULDN'T!! How long would you be arsed watching that before you just skipped it to get back to the menu?! That's the kind of thing I would only ever see in two situations; 1) when I play the game for the first time, 2) when I go to the bathroom at full-time and see it when I get back.

Now the online master league that they're hinting towards (bearing in mind Adonis's advice of taking the hints seriously as the guys have seen more than they can let on) is a great feature. The reason I still look at FIFA each year is because of their career modes, and recently they introduced the online "Interactive Leagues" system, which I love (you pick your favourite team and you play a full season against real fans of the other teams). It could be a great feature.

 

[NickSCFC]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

The Espinas old/new shots make a good little comparison. It shows you that they are improving, just... Not as quickly as everybody else. But at least it's better than before.

The pic of Espinas is from PS2, remember there were no training kits in PES6 360, they were only in the PS2 version.

Beta or not, these graphics look NO BETTER than even PES6 on 360! The only difference is the depth of field blur which was (for some strange reason) taken out of PES6.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is in serious denial!

 

[Iori Yagami]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Adonis i'm with you. I really believe in your words. Don't care to this mudmen. They want a PES with graphics of Gears of War.

 

[Tank0r]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

no a pes with at least graphics of nba2k7

 

[jflores]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Adonis i'm with you. I really believe in your words. Don't care to this mudmen. They want a PES with graphics of Gears of War.

And rightly so, they are entitled to this expectations.

However,I trust that NOKAMI is concentrating on something BIGGER, Better, and long lasting if they are to deliver this kind of graphics which are not bad, but not great either, in my opinion.

I certainly hope this is the case, and that we will be blown away by all the improvements in gameplay/physics and hopefully, Master League.

 

[Idioteque Machine]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Beta or not, these graphics look NO BETTER than even PES6 on 360! The only difference is the depth of field blur which was (for some strange reason) taken out of PES6.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is in serious denial!

Nail on the head. Not to mention the very poignant question of why the hell you would release your worst beta shots as marketing material.

 

[Adonis]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Adonis i'm with you. I really believe in your words. Don't care to this mudmen. They want a PES with graphics of Gears of War.

Cheers mate.

Dont worry though, Im no drama queen or feel like I should be respected etc. It just gets frustrating when I feel I have to defend myself, and repeat myself.

 

[Idioteque Machine]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

With all due respect Adonis you come across as a bit smug. This "I have contacts and know this and that but won't tell you anything, you'll just have to take my word for it" attitude is really starting to peeve me off and I alluded to such in my ironic fans in pub thread. If you don't want to tell anything would you just shut up? Just saying "don't complain because it will be amazing, take my word for it" is simply not good enough, understand?

 

[Idioteque Machine]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed by the way, but the guy who got hold of the magazine early made a comment about the new screens containing fans in a pub and immediately after that everyone started saying it was a joke or a lie. Does that not tell you something?

 

[ProWeMan]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

hey u mister idiot---eque watch ur mouth man just calm down this guy adonis has been very helpfull to us if u wanna say something try and make / get the info like adonis did and then come here and talk with ur mouth full ;-)

 

[NickSCFC]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Nail on the head. Not to mention the very poignant question of why the hell you would release your worst beta shots as marketing material.

I'm happy enough with PES 360 graphics for now, it seems like PES08 will be the same.

But for me, I'm more bothered about shots being ballooned from an inch off the line all the time. We've had a couple of long nights on PES6 this week and it's infuriated me and the lads. It's obvious Konami have done fuck all with the graphics this time, and this pub fans idea is a sign of Konami going in the wrong direction. If Konami don't get rid of these gameplay flaws (which they now have no excuse not to, they've done fuck all over the past 8 months) I'll be jumping ship to FIFA.

Even WENB podcasts have gotten me more excited for FIFA 08 than PES 08, their source in America is loving it.

 

[Idioteque Machine]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

I'm going to be honest "proweman", I can't understand that jibberish.

 

[Idioteque Machine]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

But for me, I'm more bothered about shots being ballooned from an inch off the line all the time. We've had a couple of long nights on PES6 this week and it's infuriated me and the lads. It's obvious Konami have done fuck all with the graphics this time, and this pub fans idea is a sign of Konami going in the wrong direction. If Konami don't get rid of these gameplay flaws (which they now have no excuse not to, they've done fuck all over the past 8 months) I'll be jumping ship to FIFA.

I don't think I'd go to that extreme, but Football Manager Live sounds like a very interesting proposition indeed.

 

[Beatts]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

With all due respect Adonis you come across as a bit smug. This "I have contacts and know this and that but won't tell you anything, you'll just have to take my word for it" attitude is really starting to peeve me off and I alluded to such in my ironic fans in pub thread. If you don't want to tell anything would you just shut up? Just saying "don't complain because it will be amazing, take my word for it" is simply not good enough, understand?

Yeah but Adonis isn't saying that hes just relaying what hes heard guys, you know. Don't shoot the messenger.

Im really happy with this article, mostly the tiny in game shot lol! I just like the simple menu they have it sets the tone for a sleek main menu and overall presentation.

not to mention the sub bench overlay

Cheers to the WENB Boys for the scans too!

 

[Iori Yagami]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

no a pes with at least graphics of nba2k7

This was discussed before... The pitch in football is much bigger than a court of basketball. The crowd in football is 2x or 3x more than in a court of basketball. And the number of players in both sports is very different. The graphics of PES 2008 are bad, at this moment, but, WE KNOW very well about the importance of Gameplay. There is no point in to offend the game right now. We must wait for the presentation in Germany.

 

[ThomasGOAL]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

Big THANKS to Adonis for this exclusivity !!!
I'm with you mate

 

[NickSCFC]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

EA did a really good job with next-gen FIFA 07, all they need to do is tighten up the dribbling and speed up the gameplay and they'll be breathing down Konami's necks.

I just cannot believe Konami have wasted so much time on this pub shit. PS, I think the pub might be an online spectator mode.

 

[Adonis]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

With all due respect Adonis you come across as a bit smug. This "I have contacts and know this and that but won't tell you anything, you'll just have to take my word for it" attitude is really starting to peeve me off and I alluded to such in my ironic fans in pub thread. If you don't want to tell anything would you just shut up? Just saying "don't complain because it will be amazing, take my word for it" is simply not good enough, understand?

Do me a favour, and dont speak to me like that. Ive never given you shit, so dont start with me please.

Thank God you're one that thinks that, because I really dont give a shit what you think of me. WENB works fucking hard to get information and news for true fans.

Im trying to be helpful by giving everyone hope on the series. I would love to tell you everything, I really would BUT I CANT. Im not saying that to be smug, if I do WENB would lose evrything.

FYI Ive never said 'I know stuff but cant say.' I mentioned it on the podcast, but gave helpful hints. I do what I can to help, what do you do apart from offend people?

 

[Tank0r]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

problem I have with pes2008 is:

I want na2k7 graphics and I want improvements in commentary, atmospehre, ML and licences.

I understand that you cant have all. but none? so the graphics are a let down. so my hopes are at the rest. but regarding pes in the last years I am not sure if we will see any improvements except of those gimmicks like pubs. teamvision alone wont convince me. maybe I will be wrong and konami will sweep my ass on the 5th (I hope so) but I dont think so.

 

[ProWeMan]

Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/03/07)

me too adonis all the way and wenb!!