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WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

anyone else notice how on the back of the PES6 box at the bottom it mentions Premier Segunda Division yet it isn't in the game, the same line is on the J League site.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

anyone else notice how on the back of the PES6 box at the bottom it mentions Premier Segunda Division yet it isn't in the game, the same line is on the J League site.

Yes, it says "y/o Segunda División." Which means "and/or." Obviously in the case of PES, it means "or"
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

No, no. The ML is wonderful. What more could you possibly want? OK, so it doesn't mirror the real world league structures, cup structures, CL structure, it's full of holes, tedious to play, is completely devoid of inspiration and imagination and hasn't improved in 5 years, but apart from that, and the fact that it's, as you put it, "shite", it's perfect.

And let's face, what would your rather have - untucked shirts with sweat stains, or a good ML career mode? Exactly.

I love this post.
Why do ppl not realize when you play the game in Normal or wide camera mode anyway you cant see any of this shit ppl are so excited about.
This as close as you could probably get the camera and still have the game playable and WOW look at that sweat and the facial expressions lol.
pes6-011.jpg

No news about the Masterleague is bad news
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

Good post. Playing with normal camera is far better (graphics) You can see the boots and tape, etc.. Many friends of me are playing with long camera and I do not feel the same if I play with long camera as I do with normal
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

I love this post.
Why do ppl not realize when you play the game in Normal or wide camera mode anyway you cant see any of this shit ppl are so excited about.
This as close as you could probably get the camera and still have the game playable and WOW look at that sweat and the facial expressions lol.
pes6-011.jpg

No news about the Masterleague is bad news



oh wtf that cursor is in no way realistic


KONAMI

SCREWING US



AGAIN

!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

LOL Badgerman

Replacing keepers with cursors? Hmmm hopefully it can have a side untucked...

Loving the joke comments saying invisible sweat stains, when infact, its so easy to spot... They just like moaning, and good to see untucked shirts be good to hush those, now just to see why keepers are better, see the game in motion, and for me personalyl I would like to see this new menu and a little about the edit mode, and the things you can definately edit :D But good stuff so far guys!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

I think the white Mickey Mouse gloves are still there for keepers... :roll:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

Embrace has hit the nail on the head. I wish I could see the sort of person who sits there and thinks "Sweat stains and untucked shirts, that's good enough for me!".

To the person who says the "sweat stains" are "clearly visible", you are a moron. Firstly, because they are NOT and secondly, even if they were clearly visible in that shot do you think they will be visible, or add anything whatsoever to the game unless you are zoomed right in on replay mode?

The people who cum in their pants when Konami announce features like Shark heads in edit mode year after year and shell out for the game without even thinking about what Konami could and probably should be doing to improve the series, are firstly no better than FIFA fans themselves and secondly are limiting the progression of the game.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

I just can't understand one thing.
If we suffer a foul and the ball goes far from the player how could we take a fast freekick without seeing the black screen?
The referee pass us the ball?

sorry for my baaaaad english :(
You should check nba2k7 because this is how it works ,no black loading screens .Each time there is a foul or the ball gets loose ,refs always go ,pick the ball and give it to you.Tha's how it happens it real life,I suppose it wouldn't be so difficult to make the ref grabbing and giving you the ball and also to add ballboys all around the stadium.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

With less than 24 hours till the first video is released, I guess it's time for the big question: Will the whole "game in motion" live up to the hype?

I hope it does, but I'm keeping my expectations low.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

You do actually see up close more than often than you think, for instance, replays as you have stated, highlights, if people play close up then you can see it aswell, then heres where I think they will stand out the most, celebrations after a goal, fouls, cards, misses any time its like a cutscene half time.

Plus you can easily see the sweat stains in those pics... whats up with you? Theres only one way it isnt sweat and that is if its dodgy printing!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

Good post. Playing with normal camera is far better (graphics) You can see the boots and tape, etc.. Many friends of me are playing with long camera and I do not feel the same if I play with long camera as I do with normal

I play the PC version in 1920x1440. I can see their eyeballs at Wide camera. Well, not really, but everyone is different is what I am saying. ;)

Also, I am one of probably quite a few who enjoy watching replays, study the game from every corner and angle, to learn all about it, a privilege only a videogame can give you. :)

Besides, I am also one that feels alot of the atmosphere in the game. If we before each game were given a flyover of the stadium from a helicopter view, and the areas outside the stadium were just a black void with absolute nothingness, I couldn't play it. The whole illusion of playing a game in a crowded stadium in an actual city in a real place on a real earth, is ruined.

Might seem small for some, but for me it makes things infinitely more enjoyable. If things are 1-dimensional, undetailed and shallow, I will notice it.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

it's barack obama

btw

<3
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

Do we know if the Bundesliga will be in the game yet? Or if it will be licenced?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

I don't think it will be in. I seem to recall hearing about it (probably not an official announcement though), but mostly though I think they would be trumpeting it out loudly if they had gotten it licensed. There might still be time to get them licensed, but seeing how they have had sicne PES6 to do it, and how relatively close we are to release/final version, I think it will be extremely unlikely the BL will be in. :/
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

The people who cum in their pants when Konami announce features like Shark heads in edit mode year after year and shell out for the game without even thinking about what Konami could and probably should be doing to improve the series, are firstly no better than FIFA fans themselves and secondly are limiting the progression of the game.

He makes a great point Konami have done nothing in the last 3 years except take out stuff we like just so they can bring it back again.
Even this Teamvision was supposed to be in the game already Konami clearly said 2 or free games ago that the AI would learn how you play and make it more difficult.

SWOS is about to be released on the Xbox arcade and konami haven't even added the simplest of features from that game and it ended over 10 years ago.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

it is confirmed that in july 25 konami will show a video???
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

it's barack obama

btw

<3


christ that pic was so large i couldnt work out who iwas at first! THought it was lewis hamilton until i saw it was an old bloke, then obama clicked in!!! in yer face! :mrgreen:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

So many things that Konami could do with the ML that wouldn't be that hard (compared to sweat stains say..) but probably won't.

Things like currency, 20 team leagues, a proper CL, not making it so everyone develops into Maradona (Smith? Really?!), being forced to rotate your players every game etc etc

Proper leagues were already implemented in WE10JL. So my guess is it will be in PES 2008 :)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

dont know if someone posted it already, but from other magazine (german):

http://www.picfront.org/picture/gJzH4GUN9Cm/img/Bild026.jpg

http://www.picfront.org/picture/8hLHVvls6TN/img/Bild027.jpg

nothing really new but i can translate it (sry 4 bad english :D):

They played it on x360. You have to press and hold the shoulder buttons and with left trigger you can make a dive. Almost everytime they got yellow card but managed to do it in penalty area to get a penalty (if referee cant see it). A manager of konami said, they want to see how the fans like it. They will remove it next year if they dont like it. Then they talk about freekicks. As already said you can choose how many players will be in the wall. Freekicks, headers and shots are harder. If you pass to a player and he shoots directly from running, the shot will be very hard. There a new animations, e.g jumping tackling/straddle (dont know how to translate, hope you understand). The version they played had data from last season (with old jerseys) because konami tries to get more and more licenses. They couldnt tell about new feature team-vision because they didnt notice anything of it on 3hour play.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

dont know if someone posted it already, but from other magazine (german):

http://www.picfront.org/picture/gJzH4GUN9Cm/img/Bild026.jpg

http://www.picfront.org/picture/8hLHVvls6TN/img/Bild027.jpg

nothing really new but i can translate it (sry 4 bad english :D):

They played it on x360. You have to press and hold the shoulder buttons and with left trigger you can make a dive. Almost everytime they got yellow card but managed to do it in penalty area to get a penalty (if referee cant see it). A manager of konami said, they want to see how the fans like it. They will remove it next year if they dont like it. Then they talk about freekicks. As already said you can choose how many players will be in the wall. Freekicks, headers and shots are harder. If you pass to a player and he shoots directly from running, the shot will be very hard. There a new animations, e.g jumping tackling/straddle (dont know how to translate, hope you understand). The version they played had data from last season (with old trikots) because konami tries to get more and more licenses. They couldnt tell about new feature team-vision because they didnt notice anything of it on 3hour play.

diving doesn't sound too good.

i am sure there has to be a tackle/contact made against you in order to pull off a successful dive and con the referee. so it would have to be precise timing involved.

they didn't notice teamvision?? hmmm.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

dont know if someone posted it already, but from other magazine (german):

http://www.picfront.org/picture/gJzH4GUN9Cm/img/Bild026.jpg

http://www.picfront.org/picture/8hLHVvls6TN/img/Bild027.jpg

nothing really new but i can translate it (sry 4 bad english :D):

They played it on x360. You have to press and hold the shoulder buttons and with left trigger you can make a dive. Almost everytime they got yellow card but managed to do it in penalty area to get a penalty (if referee cant see it). A manager of konami said, they want to see how the fans like it. They will remove it next year if they dont like it. Then they talk about freekicks. As already said you can choose how many players will be in the wall. Freekicks, headers and shots are harder. If you pass to a player and he shoots directly from running, the shot will be very hard. There a new animations, e.g jumping tackling/straddle (dont know how to translate, hope you understand). The version they played had data from last season (with old trikots) because konami tries to get more and more licenses. They couldnt tell about new feature team-vision because they didnt notice anything of it on 3hour play.

thank you very much
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/23/07)

The facial animation look amazing on the Portugueses celebration

scanvw6.jpg
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Shots are harder? in the X360 version of PES6 the shooting was diabolical! tap the shot button and watch it Balloon over the cross bar from like 6 yards out... Nice 1 Diego Forlan :)

I am not looking forward to that element of it, I think the shooting is hard enough on the 360 PES6 so why the funk make it harder?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/24/07)

Shots are harder? in the X360 version of PES6 the shooting was diabolical! tap the shot button and watch it Balloon over the cross bar from like 6 yards out... Nice 1 Diego Forlan :)

I am not looking forward to that element of it, I think the shooting is hard enough on the 360 PES6 so why the funk make it harder?

shots being harder has nothing to do with the 360 version and the balloning shots. taps in will still be there and will work properly. All its saying is that the ball physics have been adjusted to give more pace on the ball when its struck sweetly.
 
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