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The 'Things That Piss Me Off' Thread

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
And if it's on a tv channel rather than a streaming service the volume goes up another level again when the adverts come on!





I would say the English one's seem ok on Netflix but then as I don't know what's actually being said I guess I can't really be sure. I hope so because I much prefer to watch it in the proper language with subtitles, don't like to watch them dubbed, just doesn't seem right to hear some regional English accent on a series/film made elsewhere.

WOuldn't surprise me if it was some cheap do them all service. You really need a bilingual speaker to cacth those nuances and idiosyncrasies of each language as you said.
It used to be so much better ,people who were skillful and had knowledge of languages were translating ,and use to be somewhat a prestigious job.
I've seen some horrible stuff on Amazon (doesn't suprise me since their employees has to piss in a bottle instead of a bathroom).

I'd look out for some examples if it pops up , thinking of it ,it's quite common in sports documentaries ,where you know the terms etc ,but it's translated so poorly ,word for word basically
 

slamsoze

International
28 September 2010
Konami.

e-football.

EA

FIFA
What pisses me off, and scares me at the same time, is that my two most beloved hobbies, playing PES and playing Yu-gi-oh both the physical card game and the video games, are two IPs both being hold by KONAMI, which tries to kill them both franchises with various ways, and different way each IP.

I feel doomed for sure...
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
What pisses me off, and scares me at the same time, is that my two most beloved hobbies, playing PES and playing Yu-gi-oh both the physical card game and the video games, are two IPs both being hold by KONAMI, which tries to kill them both franchises with various ways, and different way each IP.

I feel doomed for sure...

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Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
Niche one.

Public/third sector comms. There's so much partnership working and collaboration that results in a lot of meddling. Just created a simple graphic and copy for a social post and submitted to a local authority (not their comms people, I may add) for approval. They batted it back and asked it be rewritten using language and terms that make it so much more difficult to understand for the layperson. Some people just can't put themselves at the other side - the reader's side - of the table.
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
Niche one.

Public/third sector comms. There's so much partnership working and collaboration that results in a lot of meddling. Just created a simple graphic and copy for a social post and submitted to a local authority (not their comms people, I may add) for approval. They batted it back and asked it be rewritten using language and terms that make it so much more difficult to understand for the layperson. Some people just can't put themselves at the other side - the reader's side - of the table.
Been there so many times. It's why I left my last job, actually. The last straw:

I was told with a few days' notice, by a consultant who had been made a director because they were best friends with the CEO, "it's national love-your-pet week this week - make an advert that says, 'treat someone you love to a gift card for their pet'".

A) You can't use the gift card in question at any pet stores. The person was fully aware of this, and didn't see it as an issue.

B) It takes 2+ weeks to get ads past this person, because they have to change everything about the ad, because there is zero trust in any employee (however many years' experience they may have) to know their job.

C) Are you on drugs though, mate. Every step of this idea is fucking insane. Who - on a whim - to celebrate "national love-your-pet week" - is going to buy someone a gift card - to use on their pet.

All of the above points were raised, and ignored. By the director, by my manager, and by everyone. "Just do as you're told, it's all we can do."

So I did, and it bombed. One month later, I'd got a new job and handed in my resignation.

Over the last six months, my entire team, bar management, has left the company.

Their business practices continue to this day.

Since January, their share price has halved.

They all still think they're geniuses, and that the problem is the employees.
 

Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
Been there so many times. It's why I left my last job, actually. The last straw:

I was told with a few days' notice, by a consultant who had been made a director because they were best friends with the CEO, "it's national love-your-pet week this week - make an advert that says, 'treat someone you love to a gift card for their pet'".

A) You can't use the gift card in question at any pet stores. The person was fully aware of this, and didn't see it as an issue.

B) It takes 2+ weeks to get ads past this person, because they have to change everything about the ad, because there is zero trust in any employee (however many years' experience they may have) to know their job.

C) Are you on drugs though, mate. Every step of this idea is fucking insane. Who - on a whim - to celebrate "national love-your-pet week" - is going to buy someone a gift card - to use on their pet.

All of the above points were raised, and ignored. By the director, by my manager, and by everyone. "Just do as you're told, it's all we can do."

So I did, and it bombed. One month later, I'd got a new job and handed in my resignation.

Over the last six months, my entire team, bar management, has left the company.

Their business practices continue to this day.

Since January, their share price has halved.

They all still think they're geniuses, and that the problem is the employees.

Comforting to know that nepotism and inefficiency runs in the private sector too.

The number of times I'll get asked by senior management to drop everything and push something immediately, but when I ask them to approve a quote on a press release for a campaign weeks in the making - Everest.
 

Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
Niche one.

Public/third sector comms. There's so much partnership working and collaboration that results in a lot of meddling. Just created a simple graphic and copy for a social post and submitted to a local authority (not their comms people, I may add) for approval. They batted it back and asked it be rewritten using language and terms that make it so much more difficult to understand for the layperson. Some people just can't put themselves at the other side - the reader's side - of the table.

So I posted this today on our socials. Within no time, a punter with a comment questioning something they wouldn't have questioned if the post had been left as I drafted it initially.

Vindication.
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Might piss a few off ,or as I call it ,reality check.
Obviously people are free to do what ever they feel like ,but still...

You grow up in city A ,city a has a football team ,they might be pretty good ,or average or even crap!
In city B ,that's where the powerhouse is ,the team that has 5-6 straight championships and plays CL/EL every year.
Why does some people become fans of them ,when you have a local team that's pretty good/average/shite back home?

Never understood that mechanism.
Or people actually moving from A (where they we're A fans) to B ,where they suddenly "I'm B...born and raised".

We call em gloryhunters ,or some other words starting with a C.

Obviously ,people are free to what ever they feel like.
Just don't get it
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
Might piss a few off ,or as I call it ,reality check.
Obviously people are free to do what ever they feel like ,but still...

You grow up in city A ,city a has a football team ,they might be pretty good ,or average or even crap!
In city B ,that's where the powerhouse is ,the team that has 5-6 straight championships and plays CL/EL every year.
Why does some people become fans of them ,when you have a local team that's pretty good/average/shite back home?

Never understood that mechanism.
Or people actually moving from A (where they we're A fans) to B ,where they suddenly "I'm B...born and raised".

We call em gloryhunters ,or some other words starting with a C.

Obviously ,people are free to what ever they feel like.
Just don't get it
I kind of see it this way....If your local picture house was showing distasteful/rubbish movies. Would you keep going each week, knowing it will never change?
However there is a picture house out of town than guarantees great thrilling movies. what can you do? Also it's a moment in your childhood, be it a cup final or even an old football programme. Something connects, for me it was seeing players like Kevin Keegan, Emlyn Hughes, Steve Highway etc in a programme from a school fete in an all red kit.

as a kid, to me it was that iconic, that anyone who wore all red at school/kick about football (socks shirt top) looked the part. Anyone who wore white shorts with red were Man utd or Forest (that is my local team). Cloughie was never my cup of tea. (funny at times & a genius) but too rude and arrogant for me.

Many years ago i used to work at a sign firm and one of the lads told me they went to put some adboards up, apparently Cloughie was like, to someone within earshot "what are these two up to? why wasn't i told?" f*ck off mate and go run the team.

On another occasion i was at Mansfield Town doing adboards. When i got there, who was inside? Emlyn Hughes :LOVE: made my day, he was really nice.

God bless the "Crazy Horse" R.I.P.
 

Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
Might piss a few off ,or as I call it ,reality check.
Obviously people are free to do what ever they feel like ,but still...

You grow up in city A ,city a has a football team ,they might be pretty good ,or average or even crap!
In city B ,that's where the powerhouse is ,the team that has 5-6 straight championships and plays CL/EL every year.
Why does some people become fans of them ,when you have a local team that's pretty good/average/shite back home?

Never understood that mechanism.
Or people actually moving from A (where they we're A fans) to B ,where they suddenly "I'm B...born and raised".

We call em gloryhunters ,or some other words starting with a C.

Obviously ,people are free to what ever they feel like.
Just don't get it

To me, this doesn't belong in this thread. "Piss me off" doesn't even come close to covering it, it's in a different stratosphere.

The contempt I hold for people from Aberdeen who - with no family ties and no shame - support Celtic and Rangers is immeasurable. Especially those who revel in Aberdeen's misery. As far as I'm concerned they have no valid opinion on the matter.

In my opinion the team you support is decided by geography, either your own or that of your family. If you want to break tradition it should be only for the local team. Fuck the culture, success or - especially, with Scotland in mind - the religious leanings of another team.

PS If this is at odds with the opinion of anyone else, nothing personal. It just touches multiple trigger points for me, a heddy cocktail of civic pride, rivalry, family, friends, experiences, religiousness. 😶
 
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Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
Might piss a few off ,or as I call it ,reality check.
Obviously people are free to do what ever they feel like ,but still...

You grow up in city A ,city a has a football team ,they might be pretty good ,or average or even crap!
In city B ,that's where the powerhouse is ,the team that has 5-6 straight championships and plays CL/EL every year.
Why does some people become fans of them ,when you have a local team that's pretty good/average/shite back home?

Never understood that mechanism.
Or people actually moving from A (where they we're A fans) to B ,where they suddenly "I'm B...born and raised".

We call em gloryhunters ,or some other words starting with a C.

Obviously ,people are free to what ever they feel like.
Just don't get it
To me, this doesn't belong in this thread. "Piss me off" doesn't even come close to covering it, it's in a different stratosphere.

The contempt I hold for people from Aberdeen who - with no family ties and no shame - support Celtic and Rangers is immeasurable. Especially those who revel in Aberdeen's misery. As far as I'm concerned they have no valid opinion on the matter.

In my opinion the team you support is decided by geography, either your own or that of your family. If you want to break tradition it should be only for the local team. Fuck the culture, success or - especially, with Scotland in mind - the religious leanings of another team.
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I live on a peninsula (Wirral), where Tranmere are the only professional team. There's a gulf of water between us and Liverpool. Yet everyone's a "scouser", wears a red shirt (barely any blue ones) and has a Liverpool flag flying from their house.

I get it. But it saddens me, purely because the club needs money to survive in the current climate. We have a genuinely brilliant chairman (and ex-FA chief) who knows how to run a club responsibly, but he can only keep us alive for so long.
 

Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
I live on a peninsula, where Tranmere are the only professional team. There's a gulf of water between us and Liverpool. Yet everyone's a "scouser", wears red shirts and has Liverpool flags flying from their houses.

I get it. But it saddens me, purely because the club needs money to survive in the current climate. We have a genuinely brilliant chairman (and ex-FA chairman) who knows how to run a club responsibly, but he can only keep us alive for so long.

I understand the attraction of success. Who doesn't. But knowing how I support my team, the way others follow theirs from further afield just seems... inadequate. I'm not in for one of those pissing contests with anyone, "I'm a better fan than you". But when you, your friends, your family, your neighbours; the guy you bump into in the street; day in, day out, all unite for the same reason it's something bigger and - in my eyes - better. Holy fuck how we need more unity in our lives.
 

mattmid

International
15 December 2011
Totally agree with this. I really don't get it with adults. @Buzzy We'll allow supporting them as a kid and continuing to support the same team. ;)

Being as there is no big Premier team near us until London ( and nobody from Portsmouth would ever support Southampton plus they never win anything anyway!) you see very few kids not in a Pompey kit in Portsmouth. Also for those who actually live in Portsmouth ( I live a few miles outside) there is an Island mentality to them.

The worst though are those who change team. Chelsea to Man City for example. That's inexcusable.


I think it was Stan here who said that there are now some young fans who support players and follow whatever team they play for. That's just mind blowing to me.
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
I think it was Stan here who said that there are now some young fans who support players and follow whatever team they play for. That's just mind blowing to me.
That might have been based on Mike Calvin's "Whose Game Is It Anyway" - good book, and he shot a documentary for BT based on it too.

I watched that and was shocked, because as you say, apparently the most common way for a kid to start supporting a team is to see a player like Ronaldo or Messi on TV and just go, "that's the guy I support".

I have genuinely only seen kids around here wearing one of two shirts - a Liverpool shirt with Salah on the back, or a Barcelona shirt.

Tranmere literally can't even give them away.
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
liverpool_map.jpg


I live on a peninsula (Wirral), where Tranmere are the only professional team. There's a gulf of water between us and Liverpool. Yet everyone's a "scouser", wears a red shirt (barely any blue ones) and has a Liverpool flag flying from their house.

I get it. But it saddens me, purely because the club needs money to survive in the current climate. We have a genuinely brilliant chairman (and ex-FA chief) who knows how to run a club responsibly, but he can only keep us alive for so long.
That's sad ,really sad tbh.
Also on the subject of English football ,read a somewhere that wages are so over inflated in the championship ,loads of clubs barely making it ,guess that spills down to L1+L2 as well.

Can understand that Liverpool/Everton are strong in your area Chris ,at the same time how many can get hold off tickets ,or even afford season tickets at Anfield?
Plus you'd think there would be an reaction to that (modern football and tickets +all seaters) by more people ,and going to see their local team instead?
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
Can understand that Liverpool/Everton are strong in your area Chris ,at the same time how many can get hold off tickets ,or even afford season tickets at Anfield?
You can't - Liverpool will only sell you a ticket if you can prove that you live in Liverpool itself, i.e. you have an "L postcode". Nobody here can, so they will probably never, ever see a Liverpool game live. Except for the usual Tranmere v Liverpool friendly, at Prenton Park, where loads of kids from the area go to SUPPORT THE AWAY TEAM...

If you want a ticket from anywhere else in the country, you have to put your name down for a "lottery" of about 100 tickets per game. So your chances are slim to nil.
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Also it's a moment in your childhood, be it a cup final or even an old football programme. Something connects, for me it was seeing players like Kevin Keegan, Emlyn Hughes, Steve Highway etc in a programme from a school fete in an all red kit
I get that ,I was influenced as a 6-7 year old kid watching 1st Division football on the telly over here ,seeing exactly those guys ,back when Liverpool was a like a machine.
But when starting to go to football myself a few years later other things got more important ,my family are all die hard Hammarby ,our ground wasn't that far off for me as a 9-10 year old.
Could have chosen one of the other two clubs also being local in Stockholm ,would have guaranteed me silverware ,but I didn't
More that difference I'm after.
 

Flipper the Priest

Harder.Better.Faster.Stromer.
15 July 2003
Scotland
That might have been based on Mike Calvin's "Whose Game Is It Anyway" - good book, and he shot a documentary for BT based on it too.

I watched that and was shocked, because as you say, apparently the most common way for a kid to start supporting a team is to see a player like Ronaldo or Messi on TV and just go, "that's the guy I support".

I have genuinely only seen kids around here wearing one of two shirts - a Liverpool shirt with Salah on the back, or a Barcelona shirt.

Tranmere literally can't even give them away.
Our stability in the last 10 years or so, and the roaring success of the community trust, has really put Aberdeen back on the map with kids in the city. And at a crucial time too, as it's a period where kids have been seduced by football porn. I could find a less creepy metaphor, but there you go.

It seems to be a trait of any so-called emerging market. My ex-manager - who followed a curious career path from FHM editor in Malaysia to manager of a social enterprise in Scotland - was baffled by the way they followed football in Asia, in that people would follow players or just support the game in general, cheering goals for both sides. He said the notion of supporting a single team from your local community was absurd to them, and that teams were just chosen and followed (passionately) because of - by his definition - trivial or arbitrary reasons.

I've posted about the podcast Top Flight Time Machine before and co-host Sam Delaney spoke about going to see his local non-league club on a recent episode. He's a West Ham fan becoming more and more disenfranchised with the league, and when he suggested the non-league game to his young son he said he looked at him like he was a piece of shit. To his son, it was inconceivable that you'd want to watch anything other than elite-level games.

It's sad, as they'll miss out on so much if they retain that attitude as they grow up. Best hope is that it's counter-balanced by those football hipsters who write self-indulgent long reads about Sunday League.
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
To me, this doesn't belong in this thread. "Piss me off" doesn't even come close to covering it, it's in a different stratosphere.

The contempt I hold for people from Aberdeen who - with no family ties and no shame - support Celtic and Rangers is immeasurable. Especially those who revel in Aberdeen's misery. As far as I'm concerned they have no valid opinion on the matter.

In my opinion the team you support is decided by geography, either your own or that of your family. If you want to break tradition it should be only for the local team. Fuck the culture, success or - especially, with Scotland in mind - the religious leanings of another team.

PS If this is at odds with the opinion of anyone else, nothing personal. It just touches multiple trigger points for me, a heddy cocktail of civic pride, rivalry, family, friends, experiences, religiousness. 😶
Completely agree.
I now live quite far from my team ,still try to go both home and away as much as I can ,and were I live we have the Swedish version of rangers/Celtic (Malmö).
And the number of times I've sat at a pub hearing people with all sorts of dialects (clearly indicating they have a local team somewhere else) going in about "I'm Malmö always been" and you start to talk to them ,it's 99% glory hunters.

Worst thing I've heard when moving down here was from a local lad ,he asked me ,"what's your second team then?"
True supporters ey?
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
You can't - Liverpool will only sell you a ticket if you can prove that you live in Liverpool itself, i.e. you have an "L postcode". Nobody here can, so they will probably never, ever see a Liverpool game live. Except for the usual Tranmere v Liverpool friendly, at Prenton Park, where loads of kids from the area go to SUPPORT THE AWAY TEAM...

If you want a ticket from anywhere else in the country, you have to put your name down for a "lottery" of about 100 tickets per game. So your chances are slim to nil.
That's insane man.
For good or bad ,that's why I have loads of respect for Millwall for instance ,bet you don't see many United or Barca kits in Bermondsey.

I listened a podd about Atalanta ,where every new born (the owner had done this for years) gave a starter kit to every new born in Bergamo (the city) with diapers etc etc and a Atalanta kit.
Trust me you don't see any Milan/Inter tops there ,despite its a 40 min drive away and CL football every season.
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
UK
Tranmere Rovers
I listened a podd about Atalanta ,where every new born (the owner had done this for years) gave a starter kit to every new born in Bergamo (the city) with diapers etc etc and a Atalanta kit.
Trust me you don't see any Milan/Inter tops there ,despite its a 40 min drive away and CL football every season.
I heard that too, I wish I could qualify for such a thing! I love them for that. Seeing them thrive in recent seasons has been a pleasure.

Tranmere are trying to do similar things - they have an "open day" each year where you can go down, speak to the manager and players face-to-face, get free kits if you're a certain age... There are now Tranmere-sponsored gyms to give kids a place to train, and stuff like that. We've never had more of a community interaction than what we have now.

But converting kids when they've seen Mo Salah is just too difficult for any of these measures to stick.
 

rockstrongo

Golden Boot Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
I heard that too, I wish I could qualify for such a thing! I love them for that. Seeing them thrive in recent seasons has been a pleasure.

Tranmere are trying to do similar things - they have an "open day" each year where you can go down, speak to the manager and players face-to-face, get free kits if you're a certain age... There are now Tranmere-sponsored gyms to give kids a place to train, and stuff like that. We've never had more of a community interaction than what we have now.

But converting kids when they've seen Mo Salah is just too difficult for any of these measures to stick.
Yeah it's tough to compete with that (Salah etc)
Lovely initiative by Tranmere.
We have a similar thing called "grow söderort" (söderort being the south of Stockholm) that has season tickets and spare tickets to areas that are less economically sound.
We still have open trainings ,so you can pop down have a chat ,or give them your piece of mind every day ,hope it never changes.

On Atalanta ,13th in budget ,still a top 3-4 team.
Their scouting is amazing ,and also how they target over looked players in their mid 20s early 30s.
They pretty much accepted that their own (top academy) is getting bought up every year and go for these unknowns from Belgium/Switzerland/Ukraine etc.
Love that clubs vision
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
You can't - Liverpool will only sell you a ticket if you can prove that you live in Liverpool itself, i.e. you have an "L postcode". Nobody here can, so they will probably never, ever see a Liverpool game live. Except for the usual Tranmere v Liverpool friendly, at Prenton Park, where loads of kids from the area go to SUPPORT THE AWAY TEAM...

If you want a ticket from anywhere else in the country, you have to put your name down for a "lottery" of about 100 tickets per game. So your chances are slim to nil.
Yep the last time i went to Anfield was 2009 (Sami Hypia's last game V Tottenham) and yes you had to be a member and meet certain match criteria. The tickets do/did eventually go on open sale, but by then you would be lucky if any were left. You need a truckload of cash to follow them nowadays.

I remember one game V Sunderland and i was in the old main stand with a girder right in my line of view. It didn't really matter though because i must have gone to the toilet 20 times throughout that match. The Carlsberg went right through me that day. Most importantly though i didn't miss a goal and we won 3-0 :))
 
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