The Retro-PES Corner

I know that some people praise J.league winning eleven 2008 as the best PES/Winning eleven game.
But to me seems like J.league winning eleven 2009 is even better, somehow more upgraded, it really clicked with me.
I would rate 2008 9.5/10, and 2009 10/10.
Probably two best PES/Winning eleven games.
When I was a lot younger I had PES 2009 (PS2), and played that game probably for thousands of hours, because at the time I was still not employed and could not afford to buy many games, and did not feel the need to acquire more football games, it will always have special place in my heart.
What fascinates me now is how different are PES/Winning eleven 2009 (PS2) to J.league winning eleven 2009.
While in the first the ball is much more glued to the feet in J.league version it is more free flowing.
Really great games, we could only imagine what would be like if we had games with gameplay like that in modern times...
From PES 2010 onward, it became extremely easy for players to change direction while sprinting with the ball — the ball always stayed very close to the player’s feet, making everyone feel like Messi. In that sense, PES 2009 is the last traditional PS2 PES game.

And PES 2009 added some new animations, particularly some first-touch animations that had never appeared in previous games.
Moreover, JLWE 2009's agility, dribbling accuracy and dribbling speed are all slower than those of JLWE 2008; 2008 was too fast.
 
Last edited:
I gave it a try to J.League WE 2010, and you're right! It's a really nice game. More random moments, better AI attacking and great pace. Love it.
From PES 2010 onward, the system's "reception lock" became more relaxed (allowing some ground through balls and lobbed passes that were previously impossible), and the attacking runs of wide players improved. However, it became too easy to change direction while sprinting with the ball — the ball stayed too close to the player's body, making everyone feel like Messi.
 
From PES 2010 onward, the system's "reception lock" became more relaxed (allowing some ground through balls and lobbed passes that were previously impossible), and the attacking runs of wide players improved. However, it became too easy to change direction while sprinting with the ball — the ball stayed too close to the player's body, making everyone feel like Messi.
I mentioned this before but those changes from PES 2010 onwards don’t necessarily make those later games worse. Yes the close ball control became easier but at the same time in past games some players lost control of the ball so easily it was more like they were Sunday league amateurs rather than professionals!
 
Did you checked on stuffs like "Option/System" and then "install datapack"?
That was the way to get "special" dlc on PES 2014, i don't know if it works on 2012 or 2013 version.

We never had to install a special DLC like J. League a decade + ago so... Hope you will found the way to do it. Never tried a J.League game on PS3's trio versions such as 2011-2013, i'm would really love to test too to see how everything was handled (presentations, stadiums, ID's players etc.) but it's obviously on those 2 PS3 versions that J-League should be really overdetailled and immersive above all games.
For pes 2013 the j league is already working , I've been searching for a solution for the 2012 problem , no there's no install datapack menu in there , maybe there's a fix pkg for this game I searched online something is wrong with 1.06 update and 1.05 as the people were saying make the j league appear !
 
Guys I have released a major update to my J.League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship patch, which is now released:
  • Fully updated patch from the ground up!
  • NEW - Implementation of kitserver, minikitserver, faceserver and hairserver!
  • All teams fully licenced with home, away and GK kits! thanks @jackallan
  • Correct minikits appear in team select for all teams (Please note in Edit mode the minikits only appear up to Ligue 1) thanks @jackallan
  • Several new player faces e.g. Drogba, Iniesta, Robinho, Gary Neville.
  • Updated translation - all previously missing strings now translated!
  • Brand new main menu image featuring Hulk playing for Tokyo Verdy during the 2008 J.League season - thanks @jackallan
  • High resolution league logo textures in menus.
  • Brand new font applied throughout the UI.
  • Official club logos applied to all teams - thanks @jackallan
  • Licensed GK gloves applied to all teams.
  • Updated adboards featuring Japanese sponsors such as Softbank, Pocari Sweat, NTT Docomo etc
  • Updated turf across all stadia.
  • Updated player position texture.
  • Fully updated match balls and ball preview images for the 2007/08 season - thanks @jackallan
  • Correct club names.
  • Corrected player database - incorrect names fixed across the board.
  • Correct WE Shop player names - thanks @sk_rea2f
  • Correct League Legend player names - thanks @NeoRetro
  • Replaced PES United and WE United with Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund - thanks @sk_rea2f
  • Correct stadium names - all stadiums feature correct names including Japanese stadiums.
  • Correct competition names.
  • Fixed Nationality labels.
  • Official J.League anthems during formation and match entrance screens as well as AFC Champions league anthem during replays.
  • Unlocked Extreme level difficulty - thanks @ningking95 @jackallan
  • Adidas bootpack applied in-game without the need of an option file - more of a hackjob due to Konami's limitations post PES 6 but better than nothing!
  • Official referee kits.
  • Banners for all J.League teams.
  • The SLPM in the ISO features High LOD, built-in widescreen support and camera zoom set to 1250, no-interlacing and for the first time 60fps unlocked in Fantasista mode!
  • Stock SLPM for original PS2 hardware also included.
Hi, maybe this is a stupid question but I’m not really an expert 😅
To use this on an original PS2 with FreeMCBoot, do I need to apply any patch?

I didn’t fully understand that line you wrote... could you please explain it to me?
  • Stock SLPM for original PS2 hardware also included.
Thanks a lot for all the work you’ve done, I can’t wait to try it!
 
Hi Guys, I'm trying to get PES 2010 setup using the archive.org link

https://archive.org/details/pro-evolution-soccer-2010_202603

I can install PESEdit 3.4 and it works fine but I wanted to install 3.4.1 on top of it as it has the latest kitserver which allows you to use custom resolution.

However, it seems to mess up the edit file and gives me this error, I think it might be because there's no DLC in my program files, has anyone been able to resolve this with this version of PESEdit?

Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 Screenshot 2026.05.18 - 13.14.28.02.png
 
Hi, maybe this is a stupid question but I’m not really an expert 😅
To use this on an original PS2 with FreeMCBoot, do I need to apply any patch?

I didn’t fully understand that line you wrote... could you please explain it to me?
  • Stock SLPM for original PS2 hardware also included.
Thanks a lot for all the work you’ve done, I can’t wait to try it!
The PS2 ISOs are already pre-patched so the game it's self just needs to be added to your hard drive unless you're totally retro and want to burn it to a disc 😄
 
The PS2 ISOs are already pre-patched so the game it's self just needs to be added to your hard drive unless you're totally retro and want to burn it to a disc 😄
Haha I’m getting old (40s now 😅), but not that retro… I honestly wouldn’t even know how to burn a DVD these days!

Anyway, my question was about something else: in the download, besides the ISO, there’s also a file called “SLPM something" and I wasn’t sure what it’s for.
 
Haha I’m getting old (40s now 😅), but not that retro… I honestly wouldn’t even know how to burn a DVD these days!

Anyway, my question was about something else: in the download, besides the ISO, there’s also a file called “SLPM something" and I wasn’t sure what it’s for.
There's 2 SLPM because the one inside the iso is modded with a special cam + widescreen based, while the other SLPM is the native one with standard cameras and in 4/3 : if you want to play on a real PS2, it's better to use the original SLPM which is on the RAR folder. To replace it easier than with DKZ or Rebuilding the full iso > you can open the ISO with Game Graphics Studio. From there : it will shows all big AFS files which are on the ISO : Just right click on the SLPM from the iso and choose "replace that file with", and then you choose the original SLPM from the .Rar JLWE2008.

No need to extract all files, replace one and burn it as a new iso with that method ;)

Note: if you use the patched version SLPM you may get slowdowns as the game and a bit too heavy for the PS2 to handle a so big resolution.
Now personnally with NETHERSX2 emulator, i got widescreen option and it doesn't need a patch but on PCSX2 yes.

If you play 16/9 widescreen streched on a real PS2, it will gives you a very low resolution (so it will looks very blurry and blinky everywhere, lower resolution than a Snes, animations will be like in slowdown, etc.) visually it's awful to me even on a real hardware. But no problem on an emulator, if you settle the internal resolution to 16/9 ;)
 
For pes 2013 the j league is already working , I've been searching for a solution for the 2012 problem , no there's no install datapack menu in there , maybe there's a fix pkg for this game I searched online something is wrong with 1.06 update and 1.05 as the people were saying make the j league appear !
If ever you got a link or the name in japanese character (it's perhaps on PKGI store) could you send me what i need to download that 2013 J-League?
I don't found it, searched everywhere. I found a little pkg probably to just have the right to unlock JLeague but there was nothing more than in PES 2013 when i launched it.

Thanks in advance mate.
 
Haha I’m getting old (40s now 😅), but not that retro… I honestly wouldn’t even know how to burn a DVD these days!

Anyway, my question was about something else: in the download, besides the ISO, there’s also a file called “SLPM something" and I wasn’t sure what it’s for.
@NeoRetro answered your question I think ✌️
 
If ever you got a link or the name in japanese character (it's perhaps on PKGI store) could you send me what i need to download that 2013 J-League?
I don't found it, searched everywhere. I found a little pkg probably to just have the right to unlock JLeague but there was nothing more than in PES 2013 when i launched it.

Thanks in advance mate.
https://mega.nz/folder/DgsxHBQZ#vJ1ju83jdTBMYb75HgJxzw/folder/q9sElQKR

This is the link , find bljm60522 , download the file and rename dt12.img and dt0f last one and then add them into your hdd , then rebuild database and install the activation pkg

It's explained in this original post



Can you send me the link of the pkg you found ? maybe it's for 2012 also

Just reminder this only works for the japanese version of pes 2013 not the us or eu one

You're Welcome!
 
I mentioned this before but those changes from PES 2010 onwards don’t necessarily make those later games worse. Yes the close ball control became easier but at the same time in past games some players lost control of the ball so easily it was more like they were Sunday league amateurs rather than professionals!
Well, I guess you should really like WE2010-ASnC.
 
Hi Guys, I'm trying to get PES 2010 setup using the archive.org link

https://archive.org/details/pro-evolution-soccer-2010_202603

I can install PESEdit 3.4 and it works fine but I wanted to install 3.4.1 on top of it as it has the latest kitserver which allows you to use custom resolution.

However, it seems to mess up the edit file and gives me this error, I think it might be because there's no DLC in my program files, has anyone been able to resolve this with this version of PESEdit?

View attachment 421258
For newer games to install DLC the dt0f.img file needed to be present in img/ folder directly in game directory, but for PES 2009 and PES 2010 I think the DLC file need to be in C:\ProgramData\Konami\. Have you tried that? I think for PESEdit 2010 2.3 (March 2010) you need DLC 1.06 and for PESEdit 2010 2.5 (April 2010) onwards you need DLC 1.07. Keep in mind that PESEdit 2010 3.4.1 have kits from 2010/2011 season instead of 2009/2010. You can find all DLCs here: https://mega.nz/folder/mj4miLDJ#2NIzkLl_pDnQedEXBlBLlA
 
For newer games to install DLC the dt0f.img file needed to be present in img/ folder directly in game directory, but for PES 2009 and PES 2010 I think the DLC file need to be in C:\ProgramData\Konami\. Have you tried that? I think for PESEdit 2010 2.3 (March 2010) you need DLC 1.06 and for PESEdit 2010 2.5 (April 2010) onwards you need DLC 1.07. Keep in mind that PESEdit 2010 3.4.1 have kits from 2010/2011 season instead of 2009/2010. You can find all DLCs here: https://mega.nz/folder/mj4miLDJ#2NIzkLl_pDnQedEXBlBLlA
Thanks dude, that did the trick!

Yes PESEdit 3.4.1 has the new season kits but you can cycle through and select the 09/10 kits using kitserver, I had to manually reinstall the 09/10 Nike balls though
 
From PES 2010 onward, it became extremely easy for players to change direction while sprinting with the ball — the ball always stayed very close to the player’s feet, making everyone feel like Messi. In that sense, PES 2009 is the last traditional PS2 PES game.

And PES 2009 added some new animations, particularly some first-touch animations that had never appeared in previous games.
Moreover, JLWE 2009's agility, dribbling accuracy and dribbling speed are all slower than those of JLWE 2008; 2008 was too fast.

I am new to these J.league gems. What would you (or any other user here) say, which game is more fun in long term for playing fantasista mode? J.league 2008 or J.league 2009? These two are probably only ones that I will play all the way until my player retires haha.
Sometimes I feel like j.league 2009 is the perfect experience, and then I want to switch to faster J.league 2008.
 
I Tried replying to your post but had some issues. My apologies. I have never even heard of any of those titles. I youtubed them and my god they all look nice. I saw Jikkou World Soccer 2000 Final Edition, and what I like it looks like a much better version of ISS 98 on N64 that I basically spend most of my pre teens playing.
I have been trying Jikkyou World Soccer 2000 - Final Edition on PCSX2 and plays very well, similar to Jikkou J. League Perfect Striker 3.

Absolutely agree about your improved ISS comment.
It's not 100% translated, but the mostly english menus make it very playable.

Overlooked games for sure. 360 movement, with improved graphics and smooth 60FPs due to PS2. And the menu is very cool.
very interesting that you can move other player than the one with the ball with right stick so they position better for the potential pass.
 
Last edited:
View attachment 202721View attachment 202722
View attachment 202723View attachment 202724
View attachment 202725View attachment 203930

(2004) Winning Eleven 7 International-J (19 th anniversary) [2003-04]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cleraep1kljcjpp/(2004)+Winning+Eleven+7+International.ISO/file

A patch tribute wendetta. The kits of the national teams correspond to before the Euro 2004 except France, Germany and Japan, who had been playing with new adidas kits since the end of 2003. The launch date of the game in February of that years and 2003-04 teams, world patch port from pc to ps2, a tribute patch wendetta database

Optional and necessary: option file I correct some all faces and wrong names
https://www.mediafire.com/file/i02v...T+WS_________7I+_________+(A6CC024F).max/file

The game comes in your favorite language but you must change the language to the Japanese audio so that all the content of the patch is seen the same as the original Wendetta game
Hi, can you please reupload a new link? I want to try the game but it's missing from mediafire.
 
View attachment 202721View attachment 202722
View attachment 202723View attachment 202724
View attachment 202725View attachment 203930

(2004) Winning Eleven 7 International-J (19 th anniversary) [2003-04]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cleraep1kljcjpp/(2004)+Winning+Eleven+7+International.ISO/file

A patch tribute wendetta. The kits of the national teams correspond to before the Euro 2004 except France, Germany and Japan, who had been playing with new adidas kits since the end of 2003. The launch date of the game in February of that years and 2003-04 teams, world patch port from pc to ps2, a tribute patch wendetta database

Optional and necessary: option file I correct some all faces and wrong names
https://www.mediafire.com/file/i02v...T+WS_________7I+_________+(A6CC024F).max/file

The game comes in your favorite language but you must change the language to the Japanese audio so that all the content of the patch is seen the same as the original Wendetta game
Does someone has a ISO backup of this game? Please i really want to try it.
 
Hi everyone. I want to know if is there a guide where a noob like me can learn just how to translate WE for PS2?
I really appreciate the work done by the community, I tested the versions by @morodolarama1 and @BillyKong and they are excellent works, but I'm just a grumpy old man who wants to keep the essence of the game, the players in their respective original clubs, not altering or adding adboards or anything like that, maybe just the kits and emblems of the teams.
Sorry for my poor English, I hope you guys understand the purpose.
 
Last edited:
Hi everyone. I want to know if is there a guide where a noob like me can learn just how to translate WE for PS2?
I really appreciate the work done by the community, I tested the versions by @morodolarama1 and @BillyKong and they are excellent works, but I'm just a grumpy old man who wants to keep the essence of the game, the players in their respective original clubs, not altering or adding adboards or anything like that, maybe just the kits and emblems of the teams.
Sorry for my poor English, I hope you guys understand the purpose.
Hi, you need DkZ Studio so you can access the str file. Hope that helps
 
https://mega.nz/folder/DgsxHBQZ#vJ1ju83jdTBMYb75HgJxzw/folder/q9sElQKR

This is the link , find bljm60522 , download the file and rename dt12.img and dt0f last one and then add them into your hdd , then rebuild database and install the activation pkg

It's explained in this original post



Can you send me the link of the pkg you found ? maybe it's for 2012 also

Just reminder this only works for the japanese version of pes 2013 not the us or eu one

You're Welcome!
Thanks a lot bro! i'm sorry to not answering before, but yes it's the WE 2013 Japan version with only jap and english on it (that BLJM60522 you mentionned)

I will check and install it the way it should be. The PKG i owned? It's a bit like an "licence activator" for WE2013 J-league, it's more or less mentionned with keywords that it's the 2013 activation pkg. Nothing big, if it was list for WE2012 i would have posted as i see some people here searching that "lost" DLC.

As long as i got one i'm okay with it... Even if i prefers 2012 to 2013 gameplay, i don't remember why that game was a put aside years ago, perhaps there was something that worked a bit too well (like the explosive acceleration trick if i remember, but honestly to me it's not cheated at all)

Also, i agree with someone who said that PES 2013 PC and PS3 are quite different. I'm far from stuff like the PC version feels less, very less natural and i can't defend like i want. I don't know but it should be the same game but it's not placebo : all feels more balanced and Natural on consoles (also 360 i suppose).
I replayed the 2 and i don't know if it's caused by patches "dumbing" a bit everything or not assigning the latest gameplay update, but it's like that version is 1,03 or 1,02 in comparison to the final 1,04 (1,05 in WE2013 but i don't think it was for gameplay but to prepare assets for J-League Dlc).

If you feel the same as us, finding the consoles version more balanced and less "weird", don't hesitate to mention it : i got a lot to do but the way to check if it's not all stuffs added by the patchs that dumbing down everything else or if they started with a lower version.... As i can't believe that we got two so much different games on both PC and Console, you know i was almost a PES 2013 hater. Still not my favorite but i like it and got great fun playing in on PS3 with a good O.F. + my own mods.

Pes 2013 on PC needs to be tried vanilla with the 1,04 to check the differencies, so we can be sure that it's the patch fault. I know Konami made quick or big mistake during that time but i don't think that they "forgot" something that obvious.
 
Back
Top Bottom