lector
Conference
Its just a shame that the servers are dead for this classics
The Retro FIFA Discussion Thread (All FIFA games by EA are welcome!)
OldSchoolKickoff
Non-League
- 28 December 2025
That would be very cool! Also bring back old ultimate teams!
- 24 September 2024
I've talked to the Google AI for some stuffs i wanted to know about Fifa PS3 Mod.
And he confirmed/learned to me two things and one was surprising :
-Fifa 15 and 16 Ignite got several problems with the engine, and it marked the day where "foot planting" was replaced by "ice skating". Because the Engine was not aimed to Fifa but for all their others games in priority. That's why i like Fifa 16 game phylosophy, but hate the physics.
-Worldwide : FIFA 16 PS3 is the favorite Fifa from all time thanks that he kept the same impact engine, so the ball physics were still heavy like it should,
As it got both the FIFA 16 game philosophy with the Impact engine reaction : the game was the most balanced and with just the freedom needed to do what you want by keeping the same balance as a Fifa 14 (for example) you can get on the serie (as they added several type of tactical stuffs and others players reactions/moves etc.)
-Most astoninishing and i practically fall from my seat, and that's probably why to me the version i tried on PS3 like 17/18/19 really feels bad, was because they included IGNITE engine on it! They could have done it before, PS3's and X360 still got the guts to handle that engine for that simple reason : more than half of the thing that engine could do wasn't used for a football game. So it wasn't heavier to handle for those console than the previous one.
As usual, it was a promotionnal feature, as the engine didn't stayed more than 2 years on the new gen console from that time to make people think that " IGNITE Engine is the new engine > So it's the most advanced"... Wrong : it was the first engine made to fit for all game they created. Before, every game got their own engine. In reality, for the devs, it was worste : they got to recreate things that the good ol' IMPACT does naturally as it was already implanted to it (like the ball physics "impact" and all sort of collisions : they were more automatically handled by the Engine AI while for IGNITE you should've introduce yourself the parameters).
Now, they're things that i wonder and i should investigate myself : why Fifa 14 Ignite feels better than PS3 and PC version?
1st theory: Looks like Ignite was already balanced for that game, for everything to fit with it. So outcomes are a bit different but the core game is the same/as the Ignite parameters were aimed to reproduce that one and only version regarding animations and all... I didn't checked or noticed if there's foot planting issue, but probably they kept the same formula as the Ignite engine purposed for walking/running so there's wouldn't be any animations floating/skating issues.But IF ever you change the steps animations : it may cause ice skating. Just a theory but that's the one i thurst less.
2nd theory : they used IGNITE especially for graphisms (models are more lifelike in that version) but Impact Engine was used for all related to physics, that's personnally what i through : the fact to play with more life-like models renders the animations differents and more organic. Contact felt different as the Impact engine had to deal with different models. Same for everything modded by EA graphically impacting collisions. But let's be totally honest : the difference is small enough to found that game better than all previous Fifa if you compile them, but the changes aren't prolific at all.
Now when you play Fifa 15 were IGNITE take the full control including physics : it's a totally different game, not a matter of taster but way less authentic, balanced and physically logic that all the PS3 versions.
It was my "worst fifa ever" before Fifa 22-25, sorry for the fan i still don't get how they could like it, a bit like a PES 16 defender. then as it was too floating, too easy to score etc. etc., against an human scores where demeasured. I think it's the Fifa where, Online on Seasons : the goal ratio was the higher. Simple Dribbling and long shoots were too lethal.
But i brought the 20 and it was the easiest CPU i never played. Winning several time at the highest difficulty level with a 67 overall rated Libertadores team against Real Madrid by 4 or 5 goals difference, and not just one time... I erased the game the day i brought it, then i didn't liked the global physicality of everything (As i saw where EA were aiming at, didn't brought Fifa 21).
And he confirmed/learned to me two things and one was surprising :
-Fifa 15 and 16 Ignite got several problems with the engine, and it marked the day where "foot planting" was replaced by "ice skating". Because the Engine was not aimed to Fifa but for all their others games in priority. That's why i like Fifa 16 game phylosophy, but hate the physics.
-Worldwide : FIFA 16 PS3 is the favorite Fifa from all time thanks that he kept the same impact engine, so the ball physics were still heavy like it should,
As it got both the FIFA 16 game philosophy with the Impact engine reaction : the game was the most balanced and with just the freedom needed to do what you want by keeping the same balance as a Fifa 14 (for example) you can get on the serie (as they added several type of tactical stuffs and others players reactions/moves etc.)
-Most astoninishing and i practically fall from my seat, and that's probably why to me the version i tried on PS3 like 17/18/19 really feels bad, was because they included IGNITE engine on it! They could have done it before, PS3's and X360 still got the guts to handle that engine for that simple reason : more than half of the thing that engine could do wasn't used for a football game. So it wasn't heavier to handle for those console than the previous one.
As usual, it was a promotionnal feature, as the engine didn't stayed more than 2 years on the new gen console from that time to make people think that " IGNITE Engine is the new engine > So it's the most advanced"... Wrong : it was the first engine made to fit for all game they created. Before, every game got their own engine. In reality, for the devs, it was worste : they got to recreate things that the good ol' IMPACT does naturally as it was already implanted to it (like the ball physics "impact" and all sort of collisions : they were more automatically handled by the Engine AI while for IGNITE you should've introduce yourself the parameters).
Now, they're things that i wonder and i should investigate myself : why Fifa 14 Ignite feels better than PS3 and PC version?
1st theory: Looks like Ignite was already balanced for that game, for everything to fit with it. So outcomes are a bit different but the core game is the same/as the Ignite parameters were aimed to reproduce that one and only version regarding animations and all... I didn't checked or noticed if there's foot planting issue, but probably they kept the same formula as the Ignite engine purposed for walking/running so there's wouldn't be any animations floating/skating issues.But IF ever you change the steps animations : it may cause ice skating. Just a theory but that's the one i thurst less.
2nd theory : they used IGNITE especially for graphisms (models are more lifelike in that version) but Impact Engine was used for all related to physics, that's personnally what i through : the fact to play with more life-like models renders the animations differents and more organic. Contact felt different as the Impact engine had to deal with different models. Same for everything modded by EA graphically impacting collisions. But let's be totally honest : the difference is small enough to found that game better than all previous Fifa if you compile them, but the changes aren't prolific at all.
Now when you play Fifa 15 were IGNITE take the full control including physics : it's a totally different game, not a matter of taster but way less authentic, balanced and physically logic that all the PS3 versions.
It was my "worst fifa ever" before Fifa 22-25, sorry for the fan i still don't get how they could like it, a bit like a PES 16 defender. then as it was too floating, too easy to score etc. etc., against an human scores where demeasured. I think it's the Fifa where, Online on Seasons : the goal ratio was the higher. Simple Dribbling and long shoots were too lethal.
But i brought the 20 and it was the easiest CPU i never played. Winning several time at the highest difficulty level with a 67 overall rated Libertadores team against Real Madrid by 4 or 5 goals difference, and not just one time... I erased the game the day i brought it, then i didn't liked the global physicality of everything (As i saw where EA were aiming at, didn't brought Fifa 21).
nic.wav
Non-League
- 15 February 2023
Hey mates! I'm new to this thread in particular, I'm curious if anybody knows about any original season type patches for old FIFA titles like FIFA 2001 or 2002, I'm sure those games might be hard to crack open and do anything with, but hey we've gotten this far, there has to be some stuff out there. I know there's a south american teams patch for FIFA 2002 on PC, but I've had a tough time installing it and just getting things to work... But I'm still on the hunt for more patches for these games! Cheers!
sleevel
League 1
- 6 November 2024
I was just playing some FIFA 07 on PCSX2 and noticed Shevchenko do a trivela - I don’t know how far back this goes. Likely it was in the early PES games too. Funny that it’s a “skill” in the current era games.
FC Bayern
M II K U
Recently got FIFA 20-22 on Switch. I've updated them to the latest update, and it's weird to see FIFA 21 had launch day squads, and FIFA 22 had the winter transfers completed. I've no idea why it is. Very odd
maybe the servers to download squad updates are offline.
FC Bayern
M II K U
They are, yes. But the FIFA 22 servers are offline too, yet all squads are of the winter transfer window. Very weird 😝
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
I keep seeing videos on Youtube about FIFA servers for some old fifa games coming back. Is this actually real? And which fifa games exactly work and does it work if mods are installed?
yes they are coming back. fifa 17 and 14 work but are still being worked on. actually gameplay on 17 is on youtube. as for 13, its being developed for the ps3 and might work on rpcs3 iirc. fifa 16 as well is being worked on too. i heard about 18 but i think its still earlier in development. like very early.
Looks like Fifa 14 will be released first, end of august as per the Dev's post on the discord today. Think it will work with vanilla versions of the game.
Juventino32
Premier League
Hello, question for PS3 users : how (on PS3), FIFA 17 compares to FIFA 13 ? It's obvious that content-wise FIFA 17 is better but what do you think regading gameplay ?
lector
Conference
FIFA 17 on the PS3 didnt any notice gameplay updates, FIFA 13 on the PS3 was still the main version
Now its a good time to return to FIFA 13 on the PS3 because of the Online Revival
- 24 September 2024
No, it's different mate : there's no "fast pass" with R2 or L2 and some others functions aren't presents, so the game isn't balanced the same way (normal pass are much more often intercepted, and dribbling is kinda different same as animation influing gameplay).
To make a comparison, Fifa 14 Ignite which i always found before that was to top game got less outcomes but is more balanced than Fifa 17 for example. That's probably the only Ignite version i really enjoy. The others got skating due to the engine and the mod of animations they shouldn't have to change (why to change something when it's going well? They added animations for visuals only and skating took the place. Same for ball physics : it's floating)
It's from my experience with a PS3 jailbreak, now as it's graphically almost similar except models, you may think it's the same as the visual on long cam is the same. But try it on Dynamic you'll see how different those games plays. Fifa 17 is a bit deeper, Fifa 13 in the other way is more direct (and offensive, perhaps more fun for some people)
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
I have 17 running on Win11 since this week. Even with mod manager and 2026 kits update. Cam mod too.