Re: Serie A Thread - 2010/11 Season
Judged on what i saw from Milan in the CL (and i think i saw all their CL matches) i think Spurs would win 8 matches out of 10 against Milan, Ben.
that's because the only matches that come to your mind are the CL matches milan didn't play well (wich were only 2: the 1st game vs real madrid and the ajax game), wich is normal as people tend to remember the game top teams don't play well (because that something that hits u and surprise u).
u probably don't remember how milan played against real madrid in milano... or the game vs auxerre... but that is the milan we got to see most of the time this season.
u see gerd, u asked how can such a poor team be leading serie a. well i just replied u: milan isn't that poor team u saw against spurs. the team u saw against spurs would also lose against wigan or bari.... easily.
saying that milan is not a top team in CL context is something i don't agree with.... first of, what defines CL quality? 32 teams partecipate to the group stage. if we have to define CL quality by considering only the 4\5 best teams in CL (say barca, real, chelsea, arsenal, inter, man utd), then yes, milan is still behind theese teams.... but what about the remaining 27 teams? don't they count? are they just a side dish or a sparring partner?.... because honestly milan has nothing to envy to any other CL team out there.... and they actually proved it this very season... it's just that u tend to remember the 1st game versus madrid better than the second... infact i believe u completely forgot about the second match against real madrid (or about the game vs auxerre).... otherwise u wouldn't be saying that about milan.
let's be brutally honest, as much as tottenham deserved to win, the spurs game was decided by episodes. gomes is a fine goalkeeper, but that was not a standard performance by gomes.... and 8 times out of 10 yepes would never commit such an amateur mistake as that sliding tackle on lennon.... without that tackle spurs wouldn't have scored.
if we consider this we can all agree that, despite deserving to win, spurs could have easily lost that game.... even against that shitty milan.......
.... and now everyone would be vomiting shit over spurs.... "they're not CL quality".... "they can't make it on the big stage against the big guns"..... and other bullshits like theese.
that's why i mantain that is absolutely deceptive to judge teams on single performances.
just think of last season. the 2 champions league finalists offer a great example of what i'm talking about. bayern didn't have a great group stage... they barely made it (despite playing in a group with a very poor juve and maccabi haifa). they lost to bordeaux aswell. then after the group stage, they managed to reach quarter finals, after a 4-4 on aggregate agsainst fiorentina..... that was very very unfair to fiorentina (as i'm sure u will remember). i remember there were plenty of people (in this forum aswell) remarking what a crappy team bayern was, and how they didn't deserve kick fiorentina out of the competition.... but then they beat man utd in the quarters final, destroy lyon in the semis, and all of a sudden people change their mind and bayern becomes one hell of a team! LOL!
and the same happened to inter.... they barely made it to the eight finals... they didn't manage to beat dinamo kiev and rubin..... then, in the eight finals, they kick the crap out of a very good chelsea team and suddenly everyone changes his mind and refers to inter as champions league contenders.
this is what happens when we base our opinion on single matches.
that bayern wich didn't deserve to beat fiorentina was not last season's standard bayern... it was not the same bayern that easily won the league last season. and the inter team we saw against dinamo kiev, wasn't the standard inter, that terrific team that was having a great season in serie a.... and that, later on, trashed chelsea in both legs. judging milan on the spurs performance alone would be just as wrong imo.
2 last notes: as much as i like bale (and as much as i can't stand cassano), missing bale is NOT like missing cassano. and missing modric is absolutely not even comparable to missing pirlo!
second note: yeah spurs are not a complete team yet... but that means nothing. u see man city is by all means a complete team, but tottenham is a better team. cagliari is a complete team, while palermo isn't, yet palermo is slightly better than cagliari.
being the finished product, as u call it, doesn't mean being better than an unfinished product.
milan is one of the most incomplete teams in serie a... this is allegri's first season, it's the beginning of a completely new project, there are many positions to fill... yet this unfinished product has done better than many "complete teams" in serie a.
ernestito said:
haha, yes its my voice. well, I tried my best. I really set value on pronounciation when speaking a language that is foreign to me. I take that as a compliment, thanks a lot.
that most cerrtainly IS a compliment mate
