Lol so much stuff's been said here that just leads me to believe "SOME people" here aren't even real football fans and don't follow world of football well.
I have things to say both in favour of Ninja and how I agree that Serie A was way more entertaining a few years back and was one of my fav but no longer is and also few things that he's said I strongly disagree with like how he said EPL has more famous players?? lol.. in fact I think when it comes to big names.. EPL is NOT first. Serie A and La Liga have more household names.. not that, THAT matters AT ALL like Don said. It's the most stupid way of measuring how good a league is.
Then another point I agree with Ninja is that I PERSONALLY would take a "West Brom vs. West Ham" match anyday over Inter vs. Juve! so yes a relegation fight over two top teams in Serie A but that's my personal preference.
Also Adonis, I agree with almost everytying you said here but you said something
VERY WRONG which a common fan actually GETS wrong though so I don't blame for you that. All I can say by that statement though is that you DONT follow Ligue 1. So until you do and watch matches from all teams, don't judge its quality just by the common WRONG belief that the league's quality is low. Otherwise me being a totally neutral football fan (My country's league is shit and is in middle east so I'm just the biggest non-biased football fan you can find). I have 100 arguemnts myself both to support Ninja and to support Milanista/Don and others on the other hand about how Serie A is still great and a lot of stuff Ninja is saying is wrong (in my opinion).
But the fact that you put Ligue 1 in same bracket as the much less quality leagues like Portugal/Dutch.. tells me you don't follow it but it's another wrong thing that has become CLICHE that France league is low. I even actually met some Scottish people who thought their league was better :lmao: no disrespect but anybody who doesn't respect Ligue 1 as much as it deserves and thinks its only about Lyon.. just doesn't FOLLOW that league. his beliefs are based on false things he's heard from people or the media.
Cuz anybody who DOES follow Int'l football and all major leagues to a descent level and has good understand of the game knows that these top 5 leagues
1. Serie A
2. La Liga
3. EPL
4. Bundesliga
5. Ligue 1 (France)
in no particular order are QUITE SOME way ahead of the rest of leagues and in fact I'd debate with ANYBODY that in terms of quality players/quality teams all throughout the DIVISION (not just top teams cuz remember its stupid to determine how good a league is by just comparing the top teams against each other, a league is good when any relegation battler on their day can surprise a so called big team and htat is very often in France the case. Everytime Marseille faces Ajaccio they have that scare in their stomach).
Those 5 leagues are quite a long way ahead of 6th league whether that is Portugal (another one of my fav leagues but i'm a realist and I KNOW whether Portuguese/Scottish and Dutch want to admit to it or not.. their league in term of competitivness of all teams is quite a long way below France and those who actually do follow Ligue 1 as well as their own league can admit to it like some of my Portuguese friends, the ones that don't on other hand keep mentioning Ligue 1 as if its same quality as their league due to just ignorance and lack of knowledge).
Adonis although I don't know personally, I'm pretty sure doesn't follow Ligue 1 either so that was just another statement that is a common thought/false statement that has become a CLICHE.
In fact the difference between League #1 : Whether its La Liga/Serie A or EPL.. you can argue and difference between 5th league : Ligue 1 (France) is NOT as big as difference of 5th and 6th.
p.s. I think Adonis is Greek Milanista
That's my 2 cents.
and yeah I myself can contribue to this thread if I can be bothered later cuz i have plenty of things I hate about Serie A and plenty I like about and can defend it.
All from a neutral's point of view because I have no English/Italian/French/German or Spanish roots. Just a huge fan of football that follows all these top 5 leagues almost religiously so I know what I'm talking about and yeah my fav at moment is definately EPL as I find its entertainment level is quite above any other but that does'nt mean I don't enjoy my Serie A/Bundesliga/Ligue 1 or La Liga. I enjoy each to their own level as they are all different and offer me something different and most importantly all are quality enough to take even 2 relegation team's matches and watch them!
Also one thing Milanista said here I think needs to be re-iterated. You might get a lot of support for EPL here and I myself am one (although like you I used to be a bigger Serie A fan back in the day) but you have to rememeber you're having this debate in a UK-based forum. You ask same thing in a Spanish forum and those people will tell you La Liga is far better than EPL and Serie A and you ask same thing from Italians they will definately tell you their league is by far #1.
My 2 cents for now.
