Real Madrid Thread

Galácticos 2.0.

Who's going defend? Kroos and Modric. Give me a break. They will sell Di Maria, the second best player last season IMO, who give them consistency defensively and was a work horse on the middle.
 
for me Di Maria is their best player, he does everything, he is integral part of their attack.... but that is just my opinion..

i think Madrid are idiots if they sell Di Maria, Isco and Khedira...joke of a club for a real supporter.. good luck to Kroos and James, beware of next year superstar signings ;)
 
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potential great player but for now messes up a formula that didn't need changing.

with Ronaldo and Jese both injured for the moment the team picks itself but will get very interesting when both return from injury.

Jese is a great talent, one to keep an eye on when he becomes surplus to requirements.
 
bebo said:
In 24hrs. RM made €5m in Rodriguez shirt sales(50k sold) alone!
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They don't 'make' 5m from that - it's gross sales revenue. Even with high margins, say 10%, that'd only be 500k profit. And that's probably way to high. I'd imagine it'd be at most half that.

Shirt sales never pay for players. It's a massive myth that Perez or whoever made up when he was discussing Beckham. In the aggregate there's some truth to it because adidas or Nike or whoever pay massive sums to the clubs, but it's not directly coming from individual fans buying shirts.

Madrid are primarily able to spend like this because of the TV deal, and their forgiven debts/training ground deal from back in the day.
 
beachryan said:
They don't 'make' 5m from that - it's gross sales revenue. Even with high margins, say 10%, that'd only be 500k profit. And that's probably way to high. I'd imagine it'd be at most half that.

Shirt sales never pay for players. It's a massive myth that Perez or whoever made up when he was discussing Beckham. In the aggregate there's some truth to it because adidas or Nike or whoever pay massive sums to the clubs, but it's not directly coming from individual fans buying shirts.

Madrid are primarily able to spend like this because of the TV deal, and their forgiven debts/training ground deal from back in the day.
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My point was RM makes money...I read they sold 50k shirts. I`m sure % goes to different area. I really don`t know where the money comes from to buy players. I suppose their bank :)
 
RM makes money? They have the most debts of any club in the world and if wasn't for some shady deals with the Madrid municipality would be bankrupt. When the remain clubs in La Liga had enough of the disproportional TV deals (in the same fashion of the Italian clubs a few years back) their huge debts will bite them on the ass, in the same way that had happen with AC Milan and Inter.
 
andy18cruz said:
RM makes money? They have the most debts of any club in the world and if wasn't for some shady deals with the Madrid municipality would be bankrupt. When the remain clubs in La Liga had enough of the disproportional TV deals (in the same fashion of the Italian clubs a few years back) their huge debts will bite them on the ass, in the same way that had happen with AC Milan and Inter.
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Real its huge , they will keep doing what they do forever, they are only team that can do this atm
 
andy18cruz said:
RM makes money? They have the most debts of any club in the world and if wasn't for some shady deals with the Madrid municipality would be bankrupt. When the remain clubs in La Liga had enough of the disproportional TV deals (in the same fashion of the Italian clubs a few years back) their huge debts will bite them on the ass, in the same way that had happen with AC Milan and Inter.
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Regardless, what remaining tv rights clubs get. They are not breaking any laws , nor violating FFP. Whether Spain as a country are writing off their debts which you see all the time in the states 'bail outs' . The facts are their making money and the figures show. You're talking about being ethically responsible . Im not!

http://www.forbes.com/soccer-valuations/list/
 
Well, Real can continue doing this until their ties with the central government are cut. But that won't happen as it's the toy of the right wing politicians (Perez is the biggest member of the right wing think tank in Spain).
 
drekkard said:
Well, Real can continue doing this until their ties with the central government are cut. But that won't happen as it's the toy of the right wing politicians (Perez is the biggest member of the right wing think tank in Spain).
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You only are a troll... and TV3 (funded with public money)takes you away from this conspiracy

Here Laporta (Barcelona PRESIDENT) with Zapatero (Left winged president of Spain Socialist) during Zapatero goverment on Spain.

And Florentino (Real Madrid PRESIDENT) with Aznar (ex wright winged president of Spain Liberal) during last Lisboa Final then Aznar is not actual president of Spain

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HERE BARCELONA STAR GOING TO COURT AS SUSPICIOUS OF CHEATING THE PUBLIC FINANCE 56.000.000 EUROS (ALREADY HAD TO RETURN)

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HERE ROSELL (LAST BARCELONA PRESIDENT) IN COURT, DECLARING AS THE MAIN SUSPECT OF NEYMAR TRADE SCANDAL WITH HIDING MONEY SCAM TO THE PUBLIC FINANCE

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HERE FLORENTINO WITH RUBALCABA, THE PRESIDENT OF THE MAIN LEFT-WINGED PARTY OF SPAIN (WORKERS-SOCIALIST-PARTY OF SPAIN)

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Since when market value is deducted to the actual price paid for a transfer?

It's simple: the actual model of Real (and Barça) isn't sustainable for long. Yes, they are the sports club with more market value in the world, but that does not repay the creditors by itself. In order to do that you either have to sell the club or significant shares of the clubs (which Madrid fans would never accept); sell infrastructure, or sell key players without buying others.

That's what the Italian clubs did in the 80's and 90's and they are still paying for those debts today. Spanish bigs have this shady business with politicians and the banks (most clubs in other countries have to, let's not be naïve) at a scale that if the current Spanish society and political opinion change, their business practise will come crumble down.
 
LFC Albania said:
345k in 48hrs now, that's insane!!!! that's about 25 milion right there, how much % takes a team (Real in this chase) from selling kits?
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40% according to Euromericas Sport Marketing. They aren't going to recoup all the money overnight although I'm very positive this is an investment which most certainly will pay off.

And for those of you overly concerned about Madrid's debts, take a look at this:

http://swissramble.blogspot.pt/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html?m=1
 
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It's a fact that Real Madrid is the toy of the right wing party in Spain and the government has helped greatly the club. Without the gift of 1.000M€ that Madrid had from PUBLIC money in a very suspicious operation, the club would be in bankrupt. This is fact and this, to me, is the big difference between Real and the rest. There are other things, like the congress approving a law popularly called "Beckham law" thanks to which Real could snap Beckham and offer him a huge salary. Florentino is probably the third most powerful man in a deeply corrupt country like Spain (much more powerful than the president, of course) so it's only natural that his tentacles accomplish such things.

I'm just stating facts, you like it or not. And of course Barcelona has been helped by the local government as well, and it's just as unethical as with Real. There's only a difference of scale. Barcelona has a slightly minor debt (the real figures can change greatly depending on the autors, you know the story...), the club still depends on the unethical and unbalanced TV revenue share and has been helped now and then by the government as well in terms of advertising and other minor things. But no government gave 1.000 M€ of public money to the club. In fact during 15 years the local government forbid any recalification of terrains and put the club in a difficult economic situation. If you go to the Barcelona thread and read carefully you will see how I constantly talk and criticize this kind of things and the way both clubs are canibalizing Spanish football for worse.

At the end, both clubs are being helped by different stages of government at different scales and both make use of a highly unethical share of TV money. If you don't see this, you're the troll.
 
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