PES2010 discussion thread
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obie^trice
Non-League
- 14 June 2009
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
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360 degree means we most have to play the game by analog
so it not good
and i dont think the game will have 360 degree's
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360 degree means we most have to play the game by analog
so it not good
and i dont think the game will have 360 degree's
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bonyi
League 1
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
16 degrees (at all running speed) would mean also analog. I hope for it. Enough of d-pad. It's 2009...
I hope for manual passing, crossing, shooting with analog too...
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360 degree means we most have to play the game by analog
so it not good
and i dont think the game will have 360 degree's
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16 degrees (at all running speed) would mean also analog. I hope for it. Enough of d-pad. It's 2009...
I hope for manual passing, crossing, shooting with analog too...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
It would make sense from a high-level stratgey point of view - how can we differentiate PES from FIFA in terms of gameplay when their engine is so much far advanced - well we could try 360 then claim theirs is still forced whereas ours is natural.
But I just don't trust them to get it right. Fingers crossed and all, but can't see it.
I think online leagues and other such 'add ons' is far more likely.
It would make sense from a high-level stratgey point of view - how can we differentiate PES from FIFA in terms of gameplay when their engine is so much far advanced - well we could try 360 then claim theirs is still forced whereas ours is natural.
But I just don't trust them to get it right. Fingers crossed and all, but can't see it.
I think online leagues and other such 'add ons' is far more likely.
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
You need to move on. Football games have been 8-directional for 20 years and analogue sticks have been around for a decade or more. It's time they were made proper use of.
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360 degree means we most have to play the game by analog
so it not good
and i dont think the game will have 360 degree's
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You need to move on. Football games have been 8-directional for 20 years and analogue sticks have been around for a decade or more. It's time they were made proper use of.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
I'd really surprised if it was 360° movements because it's basically something FIFA10 is mostly based on this year so I'd be surprised if their secret feature is anything related to one of FIFA's this year
I'd really surprised if it was 360° movements because it's basically something FIFA10 is mostly based on this year so I'd be surprised if their secret feature is anything related to one of FIFA's this year
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
I would too, but 360° movement if done right, does raise the bar on Konami, though I think they have bigger things to worry about correcting first...
It does keep the suspense going...
I would too, but 360° movement if done right, does raise the bar on Konami, though I think they have bigger things to worry about correcting first...
It does keep the suspense going...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Konami is client by the makers of the Euphoria Engine.
They are named overthere.
http://www.naturalmotion.com/products.htm
They use the 3D animation tool of this firm.
All very interesting. If they also use the Euphoria Engine, then it's not a bad guess for 360 control...
Konami is client by the makers of the Euphoria Engine.
They are named overthere.
http://www.naturalmotion.com/products.htm
They use the 3D animation tool of this firm.
All very interesting. If they also use the Euphoria Engine, then it's not a bad guess for 360 control...
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Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
If it is 360 degree control I just think, haven't you come up with this idea a little too late in development? Surely when it's such a huge deal, and it needs so much attention (otherwise AI players won't be able to touch you, you won't be able to "lock on" to the ball etc. etc. etc.), it's going to be a failure.
That's just my opinion, and I also think it's pretty worthless without an option to make the passing/shooting more "manual" (as I am now loving this in FIFA). That's my opinion, some people don't want that and I understand that, but at least give us the option.
Same with manager movement, if I'm still stuck as one team forever then I'll get bored very, very quickly. Some people want to stick with the one club, fine, but please just give us the option...
And I'll just say this in advance - no, I'm not a fanboy, and thanks for the insults.
If it is 360 degree control I just think, haven't you come up with this idea a little too late in development? Surely when it's such a huge deal, and it needs so much attention (otherwise AI players won't be able to touch you, you won't be able to "lock on" to the ball etc. etc. etc.), it's going to be a failure.
That's just my opinion, and I also think it's pretty worthless without an option to make the passing/shooting more "manual" (as I am now loving this in FIFA). That's my opinion, some people don't want that and I understand that, but at least give us the option.
Same with manager movement, if I'm still stuck as one team forever then I'll get bored very, very quickly. Some people want to stick with the one club, fine, but please just give us the option...
And I'll just say this in advance - no, I'm not a fanboy, and thanks for the insults.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Same here. Wouldn't mind staying with the one club forever but let that be MY choice. Unless the board decide against me then I got no choice there...
Same here. Wouldn't mind staying with the one club forever but let that be MY choice. Unless the board decide against me then I got no choice there...
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Why dont you join the PES Blog as well then if your not a fifa fanboyIf it is 360 degree control I just think, haven't you come up with this idea a little too late in development? Surely when it's such a huge deal, and it needs so much attention (otherwise AI players won't be able to touch you, you won't be able to "lock on" to the ball etc. etc. etc.), it's going to be a failure.
That's just my opinion, and I also think it's pretty worthless without an option to make the passing/shooting more "manual" (as I am now loving this in FIFA). That's my opinion, some people don't want that and I understand that, but at least give us the option.
Same with manager movement, if I'm still stuck as one team forever then I'll get bored very, very quickly. Some people want to stick with the one club, fine, but please just give us the option...
And I'll just say this in advance - no, I'm not a fanboy, and thanks for the insults.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
FUCKING FANBOY!!!!
If it is 360 degree control I just think, haven't you come up with this idea a little too late in development? Surely when it's such a huge deal, and it needs so much attention (otherwise AI players won't be able to touch you, you won't be able to "lock on" to the ball etc. etc. etc.), it's going to be a failure.
That's just my opinion, and I also think it's pretty worthless without an option to make the passing/shooting more "manual" (as I am now loving this in FIFA). That's my opinion, some people don't want that and I understand that, but at least give us the option.
Same with manager movement, if I'm still stuck as one team forever then I'll get bored very, very quickly. Some people want to stick with the one club, fine, but please just give us the option...
And I'll just say this in advance - no, I'm not a fanboy, and thanks for the insults.
FUCKING FANBOY!!!!
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Anyone else picked up on the word 'freedom' in the podcast title?
Anyone else picked up on the word 'freedom' in the podcast title?
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Actually now you mention it the words freedom of speech have ironic value in relation to their forums.
Actually now you mention it the words freedom of speech have ironic value in relation to their forums.
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
If it is to do with game play, they are leaving it late unless they always had 2 versions on the go, one for the early build demo's...
If it is to do with game play, they are leaving it late unless they always had 2 versions on the go, one for the early build demo's...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
http://download.naturalmotion.com/filesfrom/Sig_05_Reel_Web_Large.avi
is this godzilla?
http://download.naturalmotion.com/filesfrom/Sig_05_Reel_Web_Large.avi
is this godzilla?Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
It is deffo Endorphin.
Adam WENB commented on a post hinting at Endorphin stating; "the force is strong with this one"
Which game made extensive use of Endorphin?
Right. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.
Mystery solved.
It is deffo Endorphin.
Adam WENB commented on a post hinting at Endorphin stating; "the force is strong with this one"
Which game made extensive use of Endorphin?
Right. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.
Mystery solved.
PATe.Arminia
Banned
- 20 June 2007
- DSC Arminia Bielefeld
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
wow, that could really be right
good thoughts...
wow, that could really be right
good thoughts...
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Adam did also say he may find this new feature daunting and he has been critical of the need for 360 degree movement, especially in Fifa10. He also said it will make some of us nervous (D-pad players?).
Just putting 2 + 2 together. I still think it's more freedom of movement.
Adam did also say he may find this new feature daunting and he has been critical of the need for 360 degree movement, especially in Fifa10. He also said it will make some of us nervous (D-pad players?).
Just putting 2 + 2 together. I still think it's more freedom of movement.
PATe.Arminia
Banned
- 20 June 2007
- DSC Arminia Bielefeld
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
From welovepes
Let The Guessing Begin...
The podcast has got communities buzzing, and guessing like crazy what is going on. It's also got a few confused, especially when trying to guess what it is.
A hint in the right direction is - it's not something me and Suff have championed in the past, or something we all screamed about wanting in PES. If anything, it's something I've been quick to dismiss in the past - calling it unnecessary.
Therefore, the news hitting isn't big to me personally (because I'm an old fart), but in the grand scheme of things its absolutely huge. The guys into their technical stuff will be ecstatic. And the beauty of the announcement open doors for more...well, beautiful things. This is because to achieve this goal the many factors around it that need to stepped up, and they have been.
But thats enough cryptic messaging, keep an eye as news could hit any day now.
@Jamezinho: 360° movement sounds more logical than euphoria engine to me.
Euphoria works without mocap-animations and is that not a main point this year?
From welovepes
Let The Guessing Begin...
The podcast has got communities buzzing, and guessing like crazy what is going on. It's also got a few confused, especially when trying to guess what it is.
A hint in the right direction is - it's not something me and Suff have championed in the past, or something we all screamed about wanting in PES. If anything, it's something I've been quick to dismiss in the past - calling it unnecessary.
Therefore, the news hitting isn't big to me personally (because I'm an old fart), but in the grand scheme of things its absolutely huge. The guys into their technical stuff will be ecstatic. And the beauty of the announcement open doors for more...well, beautiful things. This is because to achieve this goal the many factors around it that need to stepped up, and they have been.
But thats enough cryptic messaging, keep an eye as news could hit any day now.
@Jamezinho: 360° movement sounds more logical than euphoria engine to me.
Euphoria works without mocap-animations and is that not a main point this year?
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Animations will need to be massively improved if it really is 360 degree movement. Is this what he is hinting?
Animations will need to be massively improved if it really is 360 degree movement. Is this what he is hinting?
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Come on guys, so simple
He says it's cryptic...
Adam starts his hints with:
A hint in the right direction
Direction... yes?? That's one part of the solution: 360 control.
Apart from the other hints, Konami uses Endorphin as is clearly stated at Endorphin's site and as an extra hint Adam hints at Fremm's solution about another work from Endorphin: Star Wars.
Come on guys, so simple
He says it's cryptic...
Adam starts his hints with:
A hint in the right direction
Direction... yes?? That's one part of the solution: 360 control.
Apart from the other hints, Konami uses Endorphin as is clearly stated at Endorphin's site and as an extra hint Adam hints at Fremm's solution about another work from Endorphin: Star Wars.