fantomas23
League 1
- 26 July 2003
in previous pes was there ability move the wall during a fk? i cant recall 100% but i dont think so. i'd like to see it implemented. whats everyone else's opinion
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PES 2018 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread
- Thread starter ThomasGOAL
- Start date
- Staff
- #782
I was being sarcastic, sorry - I know they are silly (that was my point - there are banners that say "celery", which is a vegetable)...
But we can edit them now, at least - and to be honest, personally, I don't really care what they say, as long as the game is better to play.
I think he was quoting the FIFA image.
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Oh oh... my bad. I'm sorry.
I'm surprised nobody talked about the lack of shooting variations. On PES 2017 players always avoid weak foot shots and instead they awkwardly position themselves and score. In reality when a ball comes to you and your body is on the left, you would shoot with your left foot even if it's your weaker foot otherwise you won't even attempt it. But on PES you would use your right foot and unrealistically position yourself to shoot. That's why it's so robotic. Even when crossing, it's like a quick perfect cross no matter what. You don't have to position yourself. They say control reality and stupid stuff yet they don't understand the fundamentals. Those things were on another level on PES ps2 days compared to now lol.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
- Super accurate lazer guided shooting is still there with only handful of same unrealistic animations playing.
- Not enough foul by CPU is still there.
- CPU giving you a lot of space is still there(hopefully it's on Beginner difficulty).
If those videos we watched is anything greater than Regular mode, then we will have an easy game against CPU this year.
Now the things to look out for:
- Imperfection passing by the CPU based on stats?
- Enough player individuality?(So a unknown player from a lower rated team won't dominate a whole match but a player like Hazard, Sanchez, Messi, Ronaldo, etc, will)?
- Difference on strength between small teams and big teams(I don't want another PES where I lose against Sunderland, Watford where I beat Liverpool, Chelsea 6-0)?
- Tacking individuality(Lesser known defender cannot have perfect tackling ability?
Elja
How's it guys?
- 11 October 2015
Watching the videos I'm just shocked by the lack of midfield play, when do you ever see a midfielder receive the ball in 15 yards of space the pass to an unmarked striker with 15 yards of space.
You can go from box to box with 3 passes, like others have said, that needs to be sorted out as a priority, it's nothing to do with playing styles just poor design.
You can go from box to box with 3 passes, like others have said, that needs to be sorted out as a priority, it's nothing to do with playing styles just poor design.
RAMAXWY
Premier League
- 16 October 2006
- Team
- Barcelona
lets talk about this again when we see gameplay against the AI ok cause these are human players so you could just say they played cautiouslyIt's a concern that foul count is low, one free in the first half.
In the streaming last night there were none in the first half.
I mention first half because I didn't get to the end of the match.
Bond!JamesBond!
PS2 PES Greatness
from what iv'e seen these players are noobs and just don't know how to make dribbling movement or have the skills to draw them. I'll try the foul system out when demo comes because i know how to dribble and make defenders miss. I understand what you mean though because i play WE9LE about 4 times a week. Smart AI and foul system in that game. But these players at E3 are just noobs.
PESBUL
Championship
- 11 June 2016
If somebody miss it :
4k 60 fps gameplay video
4k 60 fps gameplay video
RAMAXWY
Premier League
- 16 October 2006
- Team
- Barcelona
What also bothers me in the recent Pes games is that the nets don't really cushion the ball after a goal like the FIFA nets do.
its almost like the ball hits a flexible wall.
just cosmetics i know but watching the vids it just bothers me.
The FIFA nets are a bit to thick but the other issue bothers me more
its almost like the ball hits a flexible wall.
just cosmetics i know but watching the vids it just bothers me.
The FIFA nets are a bit to thick but the other issue bothers me more
curdstar
Premier League
- 19 September 2006
- Team
- PES4 Partick Thistle
Hi curdstar, always enjoy your posts as it is just about enjoying the game and not the cosmetics. Always make me feel positive about the game which is a good thing.
What camera setting do you use?
(You can reply in 2017 thread as its off topic)
Custom camera (selected pitchside first) then from top to bottom it is 3,0,10 for the settings, dude.
Bond!JamesBond!
PS2 PES Greatness
here's a big problem that must be addressed. In WE9LE if you beat a defender and are on goal he will foul you. In today's PES he doesn't foul, because of the catch up process. So remove the catch up process and bring back smarter defensive AI and make them foul again. Problem solved.
RAMAXWY
Premier League
- 16 October 2006
- Team
- Barcelona
we haven't seen gameplay against the AI yet so maybe its already addressed in PES 2018. Fingers crossed
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
Look at the first goal scored by Torres. Look how keeper use hands to save a shot. He didn't use hands. Terrible. In FIFA keepers use hands.
Regardless of whether it is against the AI or a human player the lack of fouls may be an issue. Hopefully not though
Thanks, i actually saw your earlier post and ive played a few games. Really enjoying with that camera, thanks
curdstar
Premier League
- 19 September 2006
- Team
- PES4 Partick Thistle
Feel I should clarify my point about not watching for things in these videos.
I fear that perhaps my remarks come across as rubbishing @Matt10 's approach, but I really am not doing that at all. I value greatly what Matt does for both football games communities.
I guess I don't pay much attention at this stage because it can prove a little too "spoilery". I will happily plead ignorance to that which others notice, but I am not being ignorant to them nor am I judging them. I don't think taking my approach is me not doing any due diligence either, though, nor am I "part of the problem" which is a comment that can sometimes be thrown around if someone pleads a degree of ignorance at this preview stage.
As I have said many times before over the years, I simply like PES and like investing in it come what may. I see it as a £40 - £50 a year annual investment/chance and considering some of the other crap I can or used to waste money on that is a tiny amount. Considering PES2017 for a moment, it proved the best return on investment on any football game I have purchased in the last 9/10 years with ease. I guess therefore PES2018 looking a more refined PES2017 will be less of a problem for me than it may well be for others.
I agree with what Deco has said a few posts above this one: it really does all boil down to what you want to make and take from the game, and that is massively influenced by your approach to the game. Yes, Matt's observations last year were noted after release, and I certainly tried all his workarounds which enhanced the experience, but I think, personally, the developers themselves also made some tweaks here and there throughout the game's lifecycle which proved to do just enough to keep me coming back with interest after a few weeks break. I am honestly staggered at how much PES2017 I've played since release, comparatively speaking, seeing as I have other commitments and interests these days which means I don't play even an excellent football videogame anywhere near as often as I used to. I think that is quite a massive feat for the game, in all honesty; all this in spite of being aware of some flaws/annoyances that either I found myself or had been pointed out by others in the community.
Finally I just want to say I think Adam and Asim are doing a good job. Sorry, but I do.
I fear that perhaps my remarks come across as rubbishing @Matt10 's approach, but I really am not doing that at all. I value greatly what Matt does for both football games communities.
I guess I don't pay much attention at this stage because it can prove a little too "spoilery". I will happily plead ignorance to that which others notice, but I am not being ignorant to them nor am I judging them. I don't think taking my approach is me not doing any due diligence either, though, nor am I "part of the problem" which is a comment that can sometimes be thrown around if someone pleads a degree of ignorance at this preview stage.
As I have said many times before over the years, I simply like PES and like investing in it come what may. I see it as a £40 - £50 a year annual investment/chance and considering some of the other crap I can or used to waste money on that is a tiny amount. Considering PES2017 for a moment, it proved the best return on investment on any football game I have purchased in the last 9/10 years with ease. I guess therefore PES2018 looking a more refined PES2017 will be less of a problem for me than it may well be for others.
I agree with what Deco has said a few posts above this one: it really does all boil down to what you want to make and take from the game, and that is massively influenced by your approach to the game. Yes, Matt's observations last year were noted after release, and I certainly tried all his workarounds which enhanced the experience, but I think, personally, the developers themselves also made some tweaks here and there throughout the game's lifecycle which proved to do just enough to keep me coming back with interest after a few weeks break. I am honestly staggered at how much PES2017 I've played since release, comparatively speaking, seeing as I have other commitments and interests these days which means I don't play even an excellent football videogame anywhere near as often as I used to. I think that is quite a massive feat for the game, in all honesty; all this in spite of being aware of some flaws/annoyances that either I found myself or had been pointed out by others in the community.
Finally I just want to say I think Adam and Asim are doing a good job. Sorry, but I do.
Thanks. Finally, thanks. Someone who is not ultra negative about PES xD. I understand being skeptical, but not this "everything is bad" thing. I mean, sometimes it seems like people only see flaws in every gameplay.
Bond!JamesBond!
PS2 PES Greatness
youtube video makes ball look faster.
yeah, they seem to be bad at sinking the animations properly to the ball. It's in other areas of the game also.
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ultra negative ? People are just commenting on what's in front of them ..there looks to be space issues that are making the game look very end to end
Matt10
International
- 5 February 2004
There's no longer the "shift to attack" tactic that was in PES 14 for one year, then gone forever. If that returns, transition can be controlled.
Based on 3, 4 matches not vs AI. Okey. A guy just said that is not issue, is tactical thing. He played all day long yesterday.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
how was that Matt? could you drop me a screen or an explanation at least? could be the same thing
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Question is, why did they remove it?
great then show it on a video ..cant help people who have put up with the same issues all year then see the same issues in the E3 videos ..mainly lack of fouls and end to end play ..end of the day we will only see properly on demo and release
They can't record, is E3. And I don't see lack of fouls at PES 2017, in fact, that was one of the improved details. Playing vs AI +300 hours, and I can't see the spaces that people is pointing at.
I just think people tend to be negative too fast with this game.