this madness
btw i tried this year too, its op as hell. its like last year's basic shooting
My mistake, it was Gabe
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this madness
btw i tried this year too, its op as hell. its like last year's basic shooting
Someone posted an image a few pages ago that explains it (EDIT: people above beat me to it, apparently it was Lami!) - basically, when you press shoot, your aim is transformed into which part of the net you want to aim for - so instead of just left/centre/right, you have top left/centre/right, middle left/centre/right and bottom left/centre/right.
However, as soon as you press shoot, you then have to input that (the direction you're running is one thing, but as soon as you press shoot, you have to input the direction of your shot). So you're pressing south-west on the stick to run towards the goal, then press shoot, then (if you're wanting to shoot into the top right corner), you're having to immediately press north-east.
It's totally unintuitive and ruins the flow, if I were you I'd steer way clear of it.
I have similar issues with manual passing in terms of the flow - if the AI has the control to hit fast 1-2 passes perfectly, and I can't, I'm at a disadvantage. (Don't get me wrong, if the AI had the same disadvantage, and started misplacing passes, I'd 100% be up for it - seeing as it's almost the same as semi-passing in FIFA, which I love. But there, I can up the AI pass error.)
Someone put up a manual video as Barcelona, and although it was a great video and they played well, their style wasn't Barcelona's. You just can't play that way with manual passing, it's not quick and sharp enough, and that's not the game's fault - you can't get around that with manual passing. It's laboured. It was like watching a team like Everton - and this game is SO GOOD at mastering team and player individuality, I feel like it was made for level 1 assist (with just a little bit more error, and a lot more for the AI).
To me, manual passing is like giving us a "neck stick" and a "forehead stick" for headers, or a "leg stick" for long shots - you're making it more complicated, but not necessarily more realistic. (Crap analogy, but I hope I'm getting my point across...)
Personally i would stick with basic shooting. I played manual last year but this year the variation is great on basic i dont feel the need to change it. Advanced has always been a mess where nearly every shot hits tbe woodwork
I'd stick with manual. Advanced always felt very counter-intuitive to me. I think Lami put in a picture which "explans" advanced shooting a few pages back in this thread, it doesn't look like something I want to master.
Manual is pretty much like basic, except it's letting you direct the shot more precisely. You'll get it, just like the passing, just by practicing. Just be prepared to shed a tear when you blast a shot wide 6 yards in front of an open goal.
That said, I haven't actually tried manual shooting in 2017 yet, as I'm still quite happy with the basic setting.
@Lami & chiefrocka4real:
its really simple once you know how the system works. to me its more like a wii mechanic. i dont use all that crosshair stuff!
these videos might help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlEbJNC2J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StXmDeZtY9c
For me, if I bring the keeper out with triangle, anywhere past the penalty spot, the CPU player will hammer it in for a goal with 100% accuracy, with no attempt to block it from the GK. It's so far always a direct fast shot, not a chip or lob.Wait a minute - are you trying to say that CPU actually (and finally) doesn't simply try to lob your GK whenever you rush him out with a triangle? With just about any player, no matter how technical or not that player is? That would actually be a pleasant surprise.
@Lami & chiefrocka4real:
its really simple once you know how the system works. to me its more like a wii mechanic. i dont use all that crosshair stuff!
these videos might help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlEbJNC2J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StXmDeZtY9c
Own goals don't count, mate!
This could be a problem for assisted settings or people who have mastered manual.
I am annoyed because Adam specifically told me that the game would be challenging for the hardcore fans. Even he plays on professional. He tweeted this to my directly!
Anyway I am not trying to undermine him and hope that the demo is toned down. All I want is better opposition AI it could well and truly make this the best football game made.
we7god - those two results, how often did they occur in your 50 matches??
Try one thing on manual, whether it's through ball, passing, shooting or all three. It will change your whole experience.
Ask Zee
I don't find it difficult to play one two passes on manual to be honest.
They really do. It makes me wish they had more licenses - I know they're going after licenses for countries where PES sells well, but I've got no interest in non-European football personally, so it makes me sick with jealousy to see how good Brazil looks!Stadia look superb
Brazilian PES 2017 Event Pictures.
Tomorrow I will go to Chilean PES 2017 event, I 'll try to raise some of our "complaints" to Konami staff and take some pics.
Some guy posted this. Good to see the CPU try this. I love the variety this year!
http://youtu.be/o90QkBDFk_w
Be still, my beating heart...Some guy posted this. Good to see the CPU try this. I love the variety this year!
http://youtu.be/o90QkBDFk_w
:eek: :eek: :eek:Some guy posted this. Good to see the CPU try this. I love the variety this year!
http://youtu.be/o90QkBDFk_w