zeemeister
foxy engine
This is what happens when we don't have news to keep our feeble minds busy....roll on November 13
PES 2015 Discussion Thread (PS4/XB1)
- Thread starter ThomasGOAL
- Start date
Well, seems that everybody wants that Konami makes them a perfect game. But gues what? This will never happen. Every football game have flaws, and will always have. Or people accept the fact that no game is perfect or will become the eternal "old time PES fan" waiting for the next PES 5 or PES 6, like many of the eternal moamers around here.
banbenbin
League 1
- 25 September 2013
What makes one acceptable or at least not worthy of a warning, and not the other? Just to not make the mistake when I post?
gerd
Retired Footballer
On a lighter note, there is one hilarious question in that PESFan FAQ (or other questions):
In BAL mode can you sign for Chelsea and go on dates with the doctor? – @fishcakebaby
In BAL mode can you sign for Chelsea and go on dates with the doctor? – @fishcakebaby
gerd
Retired Footballer
OK, i'm sorry i wrote that, therefore i apologize to the person i replied to.
Why did i do it ?
Because his post was sooo negative...i don't remember what it was about, but i seem to remember it was something totally marginal.
Something that had nothing to do with gameplay.
My intention was to put it all in perspective, not to hurt anybody's feelings.
But anyway, i've apologized now...
Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Sabh
Please I respect your opinion but don't resort to claiming I havent a Xboxone or ps4 when I'm fortunate to own both..I even own a descent PC and have played both console versions of the pes demo extensively.
Your happy and more power to you but I don't think the issues I've highlighted are none existent.
There's a clear pattern with these issues that have been in the game for a long time now and I also feel the game hasn't really change much in over 8 years..in a nut shell they all follow the same principles and dynamics,right down to the control mechanics and how you can exploit the same weaknesses to score.
There's positives..the visuals,and my thoughts whether different from your own,shouldn't subtract from your enjoyment.
Your avatar of ISS 98 shows you know your konamis games much like me..so even you must remember how good the ai,general awareness and fluidity of those earlier games was.
I feel like I'm still fighting the game and I'm not really in control, like a passenger forced to play within the confines of a restricted box.
It wasn't always this way and it pains me that it is now...ask your self this despite the visual upgrade is pes15,is it really that different then the last 6 iterations of the game and are all those in-consistencies and patterns of play any different.
Please I respect your opinion but don't resort to claiming I havent a Xboxone or ps4 when I'm fortunate to own both..I even own a descent PC and have played both console versions of the pes demo extensively.
Your happy and more power to you but I don't think the issues I've highlighted are none existent.
There's a clear pattern with these issues that have been in the game for a long time now and I also feel the game hasn't really change much in over 8 years..in a nut shell they all follow the same principles and dynamics,right down to the control mechanics and how you can exploit the same weaknesses to score.
There's positives..the visuals,and my thoughts whether different from your own,shouldn't subtract from your enjoyment.
Your avatar of ISS 98 shows you know your konamis games much like me..so even you must remember how good the ai,general awareness and fluidity of those earlier games was.
I feel like I'm still fighting the game and I'm not really in control, like a passenger forced to play within the confines of a restricted box.
It wasn't always this way and it pains me that it is now...ask your self this despite the visual upgrade is pes15,is it really that different then the last 6 iterations of the game and are all those in-consistencies and patterns of play any different.
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zeemeister
foxy engine
Just played the game and can confirm you are talking absolute poo
Best 2 games I have played in a looooong time.
Pyro
Championship
- 3 November 2011
*16
Meaza and San Siro are the same thing. :p
It doesn't actually say it's the final list in that article, if you scroll below and read the whole, but it's 99% going to be, knowing Konami.
Lostlam
League 2
- 20 August 2010
Looks like some new content will be released later this week, according to Adam.
bro to be honest with you i feel like i'm fighting my controller when playing against the AI in Fifa especially in the final third. Just to show you how little football games have advanced over the years.
Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Dude,Id love to shoot you down but I having got the will or battle..my days of arguing needlessly on forums over pes are behind me...it is what it is.
What's funny is your Adam Bhatti...so obvious I'm suprised know ones called you out!
MikeM24
Big Daddy
So what exactly do we have in the kit edit mode in PES15 Xbox One and PS4?
I'm reading things like the "pixel editor" have been removed, so I would assume that means no sponsors logos or in game kit designing outside of the basic "layer" system?
I might just have to stick with the 360 version if that's true, as I create totally fictional teams and players usually. It's going to be poor without extra touches like sponsors and stuff.
I'm reading things like the "pixel editor" have been removed, so I would assume that means no sponsors logos or in game kit designing outside of the basic "layer" system?
I might just have to stick with the 360 version if that's true, as I create totally fictional teams and players usually. It's going to be poor without extra touches like sponsors and stuff.
- Staff
- #8,595
- 16 July 2004
- LUFC O.K.
After 10 years of PES ( and before that Fifa ) , this year for me its FIFA.
Its evolving more than PES.
And thats not trolling,its genuinely what I feel.
PES is a mediocre effort with old content & commentary left in and offers NOTHING that the modding community have not already given us before.
And please Guys free opinions around here by all means but less of the personal stuff if You disagree with someones opinion.That way it makes it a better thread to read.
Hope the demo changes that though !
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Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Zee whatever pes does or doesn't do your going to love it..your there biggest fan and love the game however flawed it is.
You like the same game rehashed and remixed with a different window dressing every year and there's no shame in that.
Rejoice and enjoy while I eat my poo.
You see it's not about trouncing pes for me just passing comment and I'm not angry frustrated or even upset by it.
It's the norm these days for pes to be mediocre and just like Sabh clearly states its slowly on a upward curve...
I'm just running out of years and pes productions promises are wearing a little thin.
Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
FIFA for me bro..better package,gameplay and it even has that classic konami feel from yesteryear that there unable to recapture...just captures the essence of footie better for me and I feel in control and have direct input.
That said I'm a konami diehard at heart that wants to see a little bit of a shake-up,the talents there they've just got to let go of the past and liberate pes..
Can it be done..I don't know..I'm just not seeing anything new on the plate..
For me actually building on the previous year might help..rather then a remix every year in this vain hope they get it right...to come out with statements like we now know what we were doing wrong,just reaks of a lack of direction.
Just become to standard and simplified,with to many shortcuts and back doors for it to be viable today.
It has appeal and those that are enjoying it like yourself should be happy...if it hits your g I'm happy for you!
Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Honoume there's nothing wrong with folks wanting something better or passing comment good or bad...I don't jump all over people on the forum regarding the other game because there not glowing with praise with every post.
Everything's subjective and people always see things differently..what works for you might not work for me that's more then evident this year with the other game.
However,you can't deny certain glaring flaws that go beyond its to fast or it's easy to turn defenders over fundamental weaknesses in a games core design that allows the cpu or a human to exploit the same flaw that you as the end user has no control of.
This is what I've been highlighting and It saddens me that you find that depressing.
My posts haven't been,it's crap or just throwing things out there that are not existent...there heavily evident and yes pes 5 and other iterations might be dated,but they still had a depth of control and logic that's so absence from the pes of today...and that includes basic awareness and better ai from games on much lesser and weaker platforms.
Let's just celebrate mediocracy and the same fundamental weaknesses in a the game that have plagued it for the last 8 years.How hard can it really be to get these things right.
I'm talking about balance,a equilibrium in the ai and a feeling that it was my error or poor input..not the feeling your being cheated or the means of control you have one minute is taken away from you the next.
I forget you can't read this!
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zeemeister
foxy engine
After 10 years of PES ( and before that Fifa ) , this year for me its FIFA.
Its evolving more than PES.
And thats not trolling,its genuinely what I feel.
PES is a mediocre effort with old content & commentary left in and offers NOTHING that the modding community have not already given us before.
And please Guys free opinions around here by all means but less of the personal stuff if You disagree with someones opinion.That way it makes it a better thread to read.
Hope the demo changes that though !
Played fifa 15 before my pes session. World class Matt's sliders and me (barca) against Bayern, was 1 - 0 up with 15 mins. To go and switched it off from sheer boredom. Switched on PES 2015 demo same teams superstar difficulty and it was magic. Playing with what felt like barca against what felt like bayern was heavenly. How people can say that fifa is better boggles my mind.
Evolution is not just about aesthetics to me and judging by my mates that are fed up with fifa already - it seems I am not alone.
@banksy don't be silly. I didn't like Pes2,4,6,2010, 2013 so thanks. You're comments about response and fighting game mechanics are total rubbish and I wonder if you are actually playing the game or watching videos. You not buying the game so good for you. Stop mentioning what a die-hard fan you are.
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Yes, just click on Banksy profile, than choose User List and Add to Ignore list... That way you don´t have to keep reading his crap.
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
It's hard to pick a game this year, as both are flip sides of the same coin. FIFA has the makings of a fantastic experience but it's so shallow and dumb, with gaping flaws in its AI; PES has the depth and more realistic and varied flow but feels too sparse and outdated in many areas.
Not a good year for football games for me. Thankfully there's quite a lot else this fall/winter season.
Not a good year for football games for me. Thankfully there's quite a lot else this fall/winter season.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Agree with this.
I hope that there is enough in pes2015 to keep me busy till next year. I am desperate for a solid game of football. Just give me a flawless online experience and I think it will be enough. My club looks particularly intriguing.
Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
For real...I'm a gamer zee..love my games and don't have loyalty to formats or franchises.
Subjective does spring to mind and you keep using your mates as a reference and defence which comes across as a bit weak,lame and childish.
See I find the opposite and personally feel Fifa throws up a more interesting and dynamic match that goes well beyond presentation and aesthetics..just more skill based for me.
Horses for courses I guess..but does it really matter..one mans treasure is another mans trash and that works both ways.
Enjoy your pes bro.
Bravez
Championship
- 26 June 2005
This idea that you have to like one game and never speak about the other baffles me.
The reason many on here speak about what needs improving is because they want a better pes, not because they hate the series and want to spew hate
I dislike the core of fifa but I put up with it because it does other things very well. I love the core of pes but too much is mediocre for me to enjoy it.
In an ideal world, Konami would drastically improve the things which (to me) evidently need it and I'd be delighted.
nobody is even questioning those who enjoy the game, brilliant for you. there's no need to be offended by those who disagree or want/expect more. I don't even see people being overly negative, just pointing out areas they think should be improved. isn't that what a forum is for?
maybe we should have an improvements thread and have this as "positive PES 15 discussion"
The reason many on here speak about what needs improving is because they want a better pes, not because they hate the series and want to spew hate
I dislike the core of fifa but I put up with it because it does other things very well. I love the core of pes but too much is mediocre for me to enjoy it.
In an ideal world, Konami would drastically improve the things which (to me) evidently need it and I'd be delighted.
nobody is even questioning those who enjoy the game, brilliant for you. there's no need to be offended by those who disagree or want/expect more. I don't even see people being overly negative, just pointing out areas they think should be improved. isn't that what a forum is for?
maybe we should have an improvements thread and have this as "positive PES 15 discussion"
zeemeister
foxy engine
Nobody is saying you have to be positive fgs what is it with this place these days. And really
Listening to the opinions of people in your social circle is childish...fuck me...it's like the twilight zone
My opinion is that fifa is rubbish and this is substantiated by people around me. If this is weak, lame or childish then tough shit it's what I feel
Listening to the opinions of people in your social circle is childish...fuck me...it's like the twilight zone
My opinion is that fifa is rubbish and this is substantiated by people around me. If this is weak, lame or childish then tough shit it's what I feel
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Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Don't we know it..you have a very black and white view of the world zee...sad but true.
I have my own mind and am not swayed by others..I don't need others around me to tell me something is good for me to believe it,I work that out for myself.
Something's that's done me well throughout life..see things and judge things from your eyes.I read to many post where people's judgement is swayed by journalists or others.
Nothing wrong with your principles but you do have a very facist way of coming across on these boards and how you communicate with people that don't subscribe to your point of view.
Your never going to like Fifa zee,it's in your makeup..your style of writing and how you project yourself clearly defines what you are as a human being outside of this forum.
I'd like to divulge that..but I don't need to break you down or is it my place.
Can we go back to discussing the game. Heads up guys there is never going to be a perfect game.
Everybody has different playing styles so what works for some people wont work for another. If you are having fun with the game, good for you. If you are not, then maybe its better not to go crazy about it and skip this year.
Now, instead of arguing over opinions (everybody has one and is entitled to it) which there will never be any agreement, how about someone tells me how to over-write a pass if I already pressed it and the gauge is filled. Thanks.
Everybody has different playing styles so what works for some people wont work for another. If you are having fun with the game, good for you. If you are not, then maybe its better not to go crazy about it and skip this year.
Now, instead of arguing over opinions (everybody has one and is entitled to it) which there will never be any agreement, how about someone tells me how to over-write a pass if I already pressed it and the gauge is filled. Thanks.