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so i tested with fraps, i have constantly 58 fps not more not less, but its still not smooth like the replays or highlights as pes 2013... i think thats a problem of the xbox 360 port
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so i tested with fraps, i have constantly 58 fps not more not less, but its still not smooth like the replays or highlights as pes 2013... i think thats a problem of the xbox 360 port
Grayperview
Streamer
- 13 December 2002
- Team
- Everton fc
so i tested with fraps, i have constantly 58 fps not more not less, but its still not smooth like the replays or highlights as pes 2013... i think thats a problem of the xbox 360 port
Video skipping is enabled by default, thats why it shows up at 60fps constantly, even though its only displaying 30fps, hence the crapy cutscenes and replays
I get this on a high end PC too, its just a lazy port for the PC once again. And is not acceptable for a PC game.
Konami need to start making the game for the PC and porting it to consoles not that ps4 and xbone are x86, that is the only way we will ever see a good version on all machines.
Got the latest patch, the game is still crap...
Grayperview
Streamer
- 13 December 2002
- Team
- Everton fc
[QUOTEI don't think GPU will become that prominent for future gaming;[/QUOTE]
You really couldn't be more wrong...
GPU is now and in the future is everything in gaming, the CPU is becoming less and less of a factor. due to the fact developers are offloading more and more of the CPU work on to the GPU, Lighting, shadows, physics etc are all done on the CPU in modern games now,
CPU is used for AI and running the game scripts, eventually the will all move on the GPU, as they are progressing at a much faster rate the CPU's when it comes to performance.
You really couldn't be more wrong...
GPU is now and in the future is everything in gaming, the CPU is becoming less and less of a factor. due to the fact developers are offloading more and more of the CPU work on to the GPU, Lighting, shadows, physics etc are all done on the CPU in modern games now,
CPU is used for AI and running the game scripts, eventually the will all move on the GPU, as they are progressing at a much faster rate the CPU's when it comes to performance.
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Actually, I'm quite sure things will get to a turning point in the not too distant future. CPUs only got crippled by PS3 and 360, there simply was no need for many cross-platform developers to make use of more cores a PC CPU could deliver. But with the Xbox One and PS4 just around the corner here in Europe, eight cores/Hyperthreading will offer many more opportunities across the boards. I'm pretty positive we can wave goodbye to the times where CPU power was more or less insignificant like it was in the last few years. Wonderful things await, and I can't wait for the first games to take full advantage of that.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
lol at the keeper, he is strictly at the goal line even in these situations + unbelievable reflexes = no chance to score outside the box
well i scored one but it wasnt a hard shot, rather a lob
Thespeedster84
Champions League
- 4 October 2010
I managed to play original patch.. only 2 games. vs england and city.. Manual header inside box now possible, the fast pace a defender suddenly sucked into shoulder barge is reduced, the defender reacts more faster to track attacker, midfielder running . Before, it was easier to get into free position from one two..I need to play more to see the GK improvement.
Thespeedster84
Champions League
- 4 October 2010
There are two areas in this regard they need to improve if a new patch is planned :
1. Improve GK sprint back and use appropriate animation. They are available in the game, it is just not well-implemented yet.
2. Improve effectiveness of lob shots based on stats. So not everyone will be accurate enough.
Hmm... You are probably right. I've always thought of GPU as the stronger but not so clever brother that helps the weak but very clever CPU. GPU'S can handle much more threads at the same time due to having hundreds of cores; while CPU can run one script much faster than GPU due to having much higher cache in each core. I'm probably underestimating GPU handle of complex data; or maybe i'm overestimating the complexity of lighting, shadows, and physics.
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NikoLiberty4
Premier League
Maybe people with AMD cards like you don't have poor framerate issues.
C'mon, the thing is I can play FIFA 14 with 4XMSAA and cutscenes don't run under 25 FPS at 720p.
Anyone with Geforce can confirm if he has similar issues with PES 2014?
you cannot compare FIFA14 (pc version) with PES 2014 graphics...FOX ENGINE is far superior so it is obvious you cannot have the same performances...anyway I have a GTX560 1G and during replays I noticed fps issue too and some little stuttering during gameplay (when camera changes direction)...anyway the game is pretty playable
NikoLiberty4
Premier League
Anyway, the problem here is the complete lack of PC graphic settings, neither via GUI nor config files.
In PES you cannot change:
- Antialiasing (MSAA/FXAA)
- Shadow quality
- Crowd quality
- Crowd On/Off
- Texture quality
- Depth of field
- Post-processing effects (Bloom/HDR/SSAO/etc)
- Ingame Contrast/Saturation/Brightness sliders
- Cloth physics On/Off
Instead we suffered "Low", "Medium" and "High" global settings for years. Pretty laughable, isn't it?
lol at the keeper, he is strictly at the goal line even in these situations + unbelievable reflexes = no chance to score outside the box
well i scored one but it wasnt a hard shot, rather a lob
Really? did you see the one I scored with Robben on the edge of the box? He shot right into the top corner, wasn't a lob. And I'm still getting used to the new shot power and I know I'm getting closer...I had one Mario Gotze shot from 30 yards and it rocked the crossbar! too bad I didn't manage to fraps that. BUT yes keepers are lousy, that I do agree and will affect the probability of long range shots getting in.
Regarding replays, whether the issue is with Nvidia or Radeon cards, I'm not sure. Mine isn't choppy or stuttering and I know what those are because it stutters on my mate's PS3.
Its probably got to do with optimizing. And you know what, PES 2014 isn't the only one with this problem...it has plagued other AAA releases lately like RTW2 and BF4. Both from two different publishers. So my own conclusion, Devs are LAZY! or haven't been given enough time....
This really freakin blows my mind.
The graphics engine is beautiful and everything looks amazing in closer views. But, the general gameplay looks like crap.
Why? Only because the developers have left the settings locked. It's not a matter related to any other limitation. Literally, If I could crank up the settings the game is going to look incomparably better.
Does anyone know of a LOD patch or mod available for Pes 14. I know there were ones for previous editions
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Completely agree. I can't think of any contemporary, mainstream PC titles that lack even the most basic of graphics options that are standard in most games. This demonstrates how PES isn't optimised for the PC at even a basic level.
Not good enough.
Simcut
BF3 Addict
Yep gotta agree with you there, why the hell cant we modify as we wish? its literally the only game I can think of on PC that doesnt have customisability like that :/
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Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Another thing....why hasn't Konami built a LOD Mixer into the game? We all know it makes PES look much sharper and more detailed. If a modder can do this then why can't Konami, or why aren't they hiring the most talented modders from the community?
PES can really shine with the right mods, to the point that it looks much better than FIFA. It's almost as if Konami aren't interested in realising the full potential of their game on the PC.
I want to say that they don't care about the PC, but another part of me says that their biggest userbase is on the PC. Maybe, I'm wrong or they really don't give a damn or possibly they are just that dull.
Thespeedster84
Champions League
- 4 October 2010
You want player that can instantly turn left right et cetera et cetera ?
Tried again tonight online...this game is an absolute clunky joke. I feel so p1ssed off that every year for 10 years I've supported Konami even when most of my friends have defected to FIFA yet no dice. Moreover they treat their customers like sh1t and claim that they are re-inventing the wheel.
There are so many problems with the game I've given up noting them.
There are so many problems with the game I've given up noting them.
Trust me, online the centre backs respond slower than a 70 yr old John Terry on mushrooms. I want balance, realism. Neither has been attained...which is why even experienced Pes players like me concede and score goals from defensive errors that are completely unavoidable.
I'm speaking online here - dont care much for offline as I don't have any friends who play anymore!
Thespeedster84
Champions League
- 4 October 2010
Sorry to hear that happen in online mode, since in offline mode, I feel the responsiveness in 1.02/1.04 is better and even germany defender a bit quicker to move, the pace, compared to 1.01. In the contrary, i'd like it to be toned down just slightly to be honest.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
50% sales drop next year i guess for PES according to the reaction of this hardcore forum
No but I want players to turn like professional footballers and not tanks. When you try and turn full circle with a player, he does about 8 or 9 micro stutters. This clearly doesn't happen in real life.
And there is a still a minor button delay.
If this problem existed in any other game, it would make the game crap.
what do u mean by micro stutters? Because I don't quite understand what does that mean. It seems smooth to me, not instant smooth but smooth like with the effect of inertia.
Vieirinha
League 2
- 18 February 2011
next year PES 2015 will be a straight port from PS4/Xbone....What will FIFA 15 be?