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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

xicpanad said:
That would make sense, and prooves one more time that PES 2014 is released unfinished. :RANT: KONAMI!

It would be better to make an offical anouncement and delay the release until it was ready. Seems to me this was a way of getting more funds in order to finish the rest of the game.
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Looks like we are the beta testers for winning eleven users
 
ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue said:
sometimes when you run towards the goal the striker/winger upfront just stands still/not moving, its like as if you come too near and he's paralyzed :D

sooo silly that is
on pes6 when i do this not only hes moving but hes at the same time dragging out one of the CB' for me, its just so smart and natural

sadly they still cant come close to the AI of past times
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That reminds me of early PEs 5,6 and WE9LE. It is still great to see our wingers getting unmarked in such an eficient way, exploring the spaces so wonderfully. It didn´t mean it got easy to score, it was just pure joy to see and play. When did Konami forgot about this!?
 
since i have prob with resolution in we9le and had prob with speeder in pes6 now i have collected all the tools and stuff i need for pes2011, latest yair and jenkey etc.
only some up to date patch is needed

lets see in a month or so which game wins me :D, wait for konami patch
hope i can get we09le to work properly
 
ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue said:
since i have prob with resolution in we9le and had prob with speeder in pes6 now i have collected all the tools and stuff i need for pes2011, latest yair and jenkey etc.
only some up to date patch is needed

lets see in a month or so which game wins me :D, wait for konami patch
hope i can get we09le to work properly
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What's the problem with WE9LE resolution?
 
i am already in talk with some of the patch makers, no luck so far, some unknown problem here i cant get the resolution to work which is set in kload.cfg
all the usual tips dont work, pisses me off
 
Trapping the ball is way too easy on difficult passes. Even a low technique player can do amazing stuff on a fairly regular basis and great teams looks 'mechanic' since they never really lose control what so ever.

Passing is also too easy with poor passers. Having poor passing should make the pass go too far, too wide or too short on a regular basis. Any pass beyond the very shortest should be heavily dependent on the players individual skill.

If that were the case, then they wouldn't have to implement catch up bugs and whatnot to avoid goals galore every match. For now it has to be there because any bozo with 60+ passing and shot power can make a slick through ball across half the pitch 9 out of 10 times.

Other than that, including that I don't bother to mention all the other stuff that everybody has whined about at least twice by now, this game is very promising.

PS. I know it's been said before but Top Player and Superstar is completely broken. The AI isn't working _at all_ on those difficulties but at Professional, even if a bit easy, is more challenging as then the AI actually play as a team.
 
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off course it is hardware related, not even konami can fuck it up in general and release a game with issues for everyone, its just a compatibility/optimization issue from konamis side, bad programming
 
It's also a bit of a problem that people in general know fuck all about their own computer and doesn't optimize anything while the same time installing counter-productive and incompatible tools and programs.

It's not Konami's responsibility to keep your computers operational.
 
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On PC at worst, there's only slight input lag issue and frame rate drop during cutscenes. Provided if your system exceed the recommended specs.

Everything else is determined by hardware and software combo and how well user keep their system to minimal amount of bloatware and crapware running in the background.

That's the drawback of PC. You can't never be certain of something.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
That sluggishness must be hardware related because on my computer I have nothing of the kind.
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no bro it's not, the game should be optimized better, even people with i5 and 1gb vram are having issues.
the game should run fine on a 2.8-3.0 dual core, but needs a low end 1g vram also to run medium at 720-800p
 
ZeroTheHero said:
It's also a bit of a problem that people in general know fuck all about their on computer and doesn't optimize anything while the same time installing counter-productive and incompatible tools and programs.

It's not Konami's responsibility to keep your computers operational.
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bad excuses, if you ask me
first game needs to be optimized, they fail at this very first point, simple as that, no need for other words at all
 
Just got around to installing my copy and it's running buttery smooth on my Asus Laptop - i7, 4G RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon 5730 with no modifications or setting changes.

Mainly on the training ground so far, trying to work out the moves. Like previous iterations, it all seems a bit strange at first.

Of the few exhibition games I've had I can see where some gripes are coming from, but I feel that these will be overcome with practice.
Barging and Jostling are big this year I see.
Not sure about shooting yet - it's either extremely subtle or broken. I keep hitting the crossbar with Advanced shooting!
Jury still out on keepers, but seen no major blunders so far.
Passing (1-bar) is fine but the ball can seem a little 'heavy' at times.

OK, back to training...
 
I absolutely can't stand the group of people who haven't even bought the game but keep complaining, pouring some oil, and feel they are entitled to dictate on the future of the franchise.

What the hell? These lot aren't even put the money, yet they feel they're privileged for special treatment. Maybe they just enjoying the mess, expecting for negative reaction, schadenfreude.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
Name one game that has been optimized on release the last decade.

Skyrim? no
The Witcher? no
Tomb Raider? no
Saints Row II - III - IV? none of them

and so on...
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Half Life 2. Nuff said.

Portal and Portal 2

May Payne 3

FIFA series... ;)

Prince of Persia Anthology

Tomb Raider (works better on AMD based machines though).

Assassin Creed

DMC: Devil May Cry

Could go on for a bit more :P. None of them pose any problems here, utilizing all power given to them.

PES is weird. No matter what specs you have, it WILL never utilize all cores or make GPU break the sweat. Impressive for 2013 game.

They could have easily implemented Dynamic Lightning system, Rain, Snow, Overcast, Afternoon and other weather effects. It wouldn't be much of hit for PCs.
 
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info0 said:
Half Life 2. Nuff said.
Space conservation
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This list is games that YOU haven't had problems with but if you read some forums then you'll soon realize that most of the games today, and ever since internet became readily available for all, actually has compability issues en masse. From trivial matters to more serious stuff like major GFX cards.

I'm not excusing Konami in any way but they didn't have these issues before at least. So cut them some slack, will ya? They're not any worse than anyone else.

Ironically enough I had issues with HL2. People were semi transparent and some walls too for some reason. They fixed it with a... wait for it... A PATCH!
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
This list is games that YOU haven't had problems with but if you read some forums then you'll soon realize that most of the games today, and ever since internet became readily available for all, actually has compability issues en masse. From trivial matters to more serious stuff like major GFX cards.
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Why are you defending Konami when they are indefensible? Do you work for them? :P
 
ZeroTheHero said:
Name one game that has been optimized on release the last decade.

Skyrim? no
The Witcher? no
Tomb Raider? no
Saints Row II - III - IV? none of them

and so on...
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again bad excuses..
pes6, not even got patched, no major problems

don't list here all the AAA titles that are done to milking the customers, that has nothing to do with the issues of the game

losslesscompression said:
I absolutely can't stand the group of people who haven't even bought the game but keep complaining, pouring some oil, and feel they are entitled to dictate on the future of the franchise.

What the hell? These lot aren't even put the money, yet they feel they're privileged for special treatment. Maybe they just enjoying the mess, expecting for negative reaction, schadenfreude.
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so first i need to buy a beta and then i can complain?
stupid..
thats EXACTLY why there are illegal copies and all this, konami proved it
dont like the truth? not blame others, blame konami, and all the blind buyers, nuff said

Simcut said:
Why are you defending Konami when they are indefensible? Do you work for them? :P
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^^
master in excuses, that guy
 
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