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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

I did the (very simple) math again this year and arrived to the same conclusion as last year: the positives are not worth all the frustration with the negatives. There's a very good game hidden in there somewhere but at least at the moment I can't be bothered to look for it, not again.

Adding that to the fact they didn't bother with a PC demo at all, makes me really glad I never got to buy the game. If we don't deserve a demo, they don't deserve our money.

They don't seem to care for it anyway.
 
So after all the anticipation and long discussion between members, in the end you didn't get the game?

Anyway, no PC demo but at least there's 11vs11 beta (or 2vs2, 4vs4 depend on you) if you want a taste of the game. Just register for free at PESFAN, you don't need the original game. That as close as you can get to a proper demo.

Unlike 1vs1, it is connected through dedicated server so don't be surprise if the overall quality is lot smoother than a typical 1vs1 match.
 
I'm done with beta.. 11 vs 11 is just do not work ..
The delay is HUGE.. the servers are unstable ... not so much players and if have someone they make passwork or other filters room... its waste of time .
I'm going to play in PES6J servers !
 
Think this game already on life support for PC. Weak sales, dying online community. Hate to say this but it's almost a miracle they keep releasing this game on PC considering the fate of Konami others IP on same platform.

Yes maybe the state of the game somewhat reflecting the community, but the dwindling numbers year after year should set the bells ringing. Maybe console is simply a better fit for sports title.
 
:LOL:

What drew you to such conclusion? NBA 2k14 is saling alright here. FIFA too.

PES is just poor game on PC. That's why there are no sales. Optimization is bad, no PC demo, taking off settings you could turn off/on, POOR graphics and Level of Detail...

KONAMI and PES Team either fix their game with 1.02. patch or they will be in even deeper shit.

It is already bad to wait 2 months for post patch for annual title.
 
Those two, the sales, online population still are nowhere near the consoles. Even FIFA on PC is stuck with CG engine for unforeseen period, as it is currently deemed of unworthy of having next-gen treatment. And i don't think better optimization is major factor of sales. It goes deeper. If people are going to buy a product, they will get it regardless of the state of the product. PES and WE are unlikely to gain new fans, they should be thinking on how not to losing out more fans. Patch v1.02 will determine that.

:OT:
Recently Konami are releasing Castlevania on PC out of the blue. That was a surprise but hopefully not a one off, and a sign of Konami and other Japanese developer are taking PC market as a serious investment. PC consumer has missed out tons of cool IP in the past decade.
 
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A pooooor game.

I have seen gameboy games with better AI, The goalkeeper of games that are 15 years older are better programmed.

The ball floats like a balloon and the shooting is just limp.

10 games without winning any free kicks and no injuries to players.

If it wasnt for the generous community they wouldnt be able to release anything anymore.

These people should be in jail tbh
 
So after all the anticipation and long discussion between members, in the end you didn't get the game?

Anyway, no PC demo but at least there's 11vs11 beta (or 2vs2, 4vs4 depend on you) if you want a taste of the game. Just register for free at PESFAN, you don't need the original game. That as close as you can get to a proper demo.

Unlike 1vs1, it is connected through dedicated server so don't be surprise if the overall quality is lot smoother than a typical 1vs1 match.

A closed beta with completely random attribution can hardly be compared to a demo.
 
Of course it's not. Maybe for those who are still hoping for a demo won't mind it.

To be honest i don't think the demo will ever arrive on PC. Kinda feel that at the same time the official demo date for consoles were released, despite what Adam and @officialpes tweeted. I don't put too much value on twitter because something major as that should be a part of press statement. They attempted to sugarcoat it, but in the end make 'em look like a two-faced liar.
 
What freedom are you talking about m8?

The passing system is too restrictive and every pass lock to the player (not to the space and) and power bar is very inconsistent. Also the rails are still there.

In my opinion, they have to work or even better rebuilt AI, passing and shooting system from the beggining.

We9le even with no power bar have more free and realistic passing and shooting system.

Thanks

Are you playing with assisted passing?

2 bar assistance.

Remember. Pes 2011 and we9le is full assisted.
 
as if a good 1.2 patch would do anything big and positive for the image or the sales for konami
it will be good for us here, the few, thats it

that train is long gone for konami, sry but thats the truth
 
I've seen some people have some sort of gameplay mod where they removed the catch up bug by defenders but they tinkered around with other settings. Has anyone else found something like that , that doesn't alter gameplay drastically ?
 
2 bar assistance.

Remember. Pes 2011 and we9le is full assisted.

Drop down to 1 or 0 bar. Even on 1 bar sometime the ball goes to the unintended receiver. 2 bar is very much assisted.

Also through ball has never been this good especially on advanced. You can play ball between players into open space. Don't think it was possible previously, and maybe it is more restrictive on basic.

If you haven't try it, consider trying it.
 
seems some kind of hidden update has been done (sorry if im behind i read it on another forum) manual headers in box definately fixed as it seems is manual finesse shot (ive tested and it deffo doesnt balloon anymore) ..keepers are still crap though
 
2 bar assistance.

Remember. Pes 2011 and we9le is full assisted.

Drop down to 1 or 0 bar. Even on 1 bar sometime the ball goes to the unintended receiver. 2 bar is very much assisted.

Also through ball has never been this good especially on advanced. You can play ball between players into open space. Don't think it was possible previously, and maybe it is more restrictive on basic.

If you haven't try it, consider trying it.

First of all i don't like 0 bar cause i'm not fan of manual.

I have tried it on 1 bar but it's not free at all. Try in training mode to make long ball with 1 bar. You can make a big ball in the space. The ball always target a player not the space and this is very restrictive. The same with short passes. I think the problem originate from its core. The passing system in general.

When you try this, please try pes 2011, or we9le or fifa 14 (or 13) in training mode. Just passing system, not something else.

You will find out that passing in these game is much more free and beautiful than pes 2014.
 
Couple more bugs online:

1. The wrong score showing.

Whenever I scored, it registered for my opponent and vice versa. Thankfully, the game still registered the result correctly.

2. Corner Error.

I had a corner, but my opponent's player was standing at the corner flag. He simply knocked the ball out for a throw before I took my corner. Kind of funny, but still.
 
Also, what is best for player switching. It doesn't work. Players running from far away to collect a ball right in front of another. I believe I have it on '2'.
 
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Just had an amazing online experience. This game is amazing when both sides know how to play(not that I'm bragging but compared to lots of new generation pes players, I consider myself as "I know what I'm doing :) ) Lag was almost non-existent and both sides were very patient. So much fun.

Anyway, I think I can say after the minor non-gameplay issues are fixed and we have a gem guys!
 
14 November is the release date of Winning Eleven 2014. Probably we'll get the update then.

That would make sense, and prooves one more time that PES 2014 is released unfinished. :RANT: KONAMI!

It would be better to make an offical anouncement and delay the release until it was ready. Seems to me this was a way of getting more funds in order to finish the rest of the game.
 
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That is bad approach. At least transfers COULD and SHOULD have been done straight after game release :(.

Another part I don't really like: gameplay fixes coming together with face updates. NO. Just no.

Do it separately. Gameplay should be fucking priority. ALWAYS.
 
MLO experience so far after 100 games...

Goal against = how the f*ck did that happen?

Goal for = how the f*ck did that happen?


90% of the time. Rest of the time it hits the post. I tell ya, I'm amazingly accurate when it comes to hitting the post!:COOL:
 
MLO experience so far after 100 games...

Goal against = how the f*ck did that happen?

Goal for = how the f*ck did that happen?


90% of the time. Rest of the time it hits the post. I tell ya, I'm amazingly accurate when it comes to hitting the post!:COOL:
this trademark pes, u should be happy if u scored a goal after the keeper fumbled it and it hit the post and then went in.
i scored a header hitting the post and then the back of casillas and then in :P
 
sometimes when you run towards the goal the striker/winger upfront just stands still/not moving, its like as if you come too near and he's paralyzed :D

sooo silly that is
on pes6 when i do this not only hes moving but hes at the same time dragging out one of the CB' for me, its just so smart and natural

sadly they still cant come close to the AI of past times
 
sometimes when you run towards the goal the striker/winger upfront just stands still/not moving, its like as if you come too near and he's paralyzed :D

sooo silly that is
on pes6 when i do this not only hes moving but hes at the same time dragging out one of the CB' for me, its just so smart and natural

sadly they still cant come close to the AI of past times
agree, but i think hopefully the upcoming patch will fix the gameplay, but i agree annoying when u want the winger to move forward to his position but no he's just watching you hehe.
 
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