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hey guys, i downloaded this NPEB90515.zip file which contains the demo but don't know what to do to get it playing on my PS3.
can someone help please?
i really wanna feel this game for myself.
 
okay firstly, who said this game's passing feels free even on 4bar? because i do not know what the hell they about. 4bar is very assisted as usual. manual feels like manual. i dont understand people who say this

secondly, this game reminds me of old pes because when i pick up the controller every body feel like they run through mud or quicksand, but 4-5 games later i start to get used to movement and it feel more natural. hoping more games and it can become fully normal, but not yet

i'm find it extremely difficult to get through the AI midfield (manual passing). i can not do it. even on 1bar i still find it hard. this is largely because the AI players feel like real people, who have a wide radius -- you know in pes 2013 how everybody felt like they couldnt intercept things 1cm beside them? yeah, that is not here anymore. it is dangerous to pass close to a player, because he will most likely intercept it



still getting used to things now :)
 
Thank you Mr.CeNA For those textures man :)

I can start making kits now :)

Ok, Some more impression after about 20 games of the Demo.

The Negatives first:

- Severe FIFA 08 like but worse responsiveness issues, this usually happens either after an interception, after a long ball is played or through ball or in general for the Defensive AI. You have players standing there like statues at times. I'm unsure how it is now, in the gamescom videos and newer codes I hear it's been fixed.

- Fouls are broken, too many times I've been blatantly fouled and the Ref does nothing, seemed he isn't programmed properly and the slide tackles are the only thing he picks up on.

- Keepers seem to be powerless to stop 1 on 1 shots from the CPU, he does that similar dive everytime and I haven't seen anything other than an almost automatic CPU goal each and every time I get a one on one against me. This could be linked to the lack of responsiveness, I haven't specified keepers in general because a bug I have just witness seemed to be universal for all the players lacking responsiveness.

- Clumsy player collisions after tackles, again, I think I'm rambling here since this seems liked to responsiveness again.

- Catch up cheat, CPU players seem to sprint faster than Usain Bolt to catch you, seems very odd.

- Some of the new controls don't seem to be fluid enough, I see why they have changed the player switching to L1 + Right stick, in theory it could work but I'm unsure a the moment of its fluidity in switching off the ball and setting players on a run.

- Cutscenes lag

- Interface is very sluggish in general

Neutral but worth noting down.

- The new free kick controls, are separated so instead of choosing the position and curl with the left stick, you choose the position with the right stick and the curl exclusively with the left stick.

- The Tactics have changed, I cannot make too much judgement on them, the games are too short and there is too much crap responsiveness to et a reading on how effectively the change the game.

- Passing doesn't seem quite as free as PES 2013, its more realistic in its physics but I can't play balls into space like I normally do, again, could be linked with the response issues.

The Positive.

- Animations. Outstanding! The fluidity of them, the vast array of them, how dynamic they are in regards to the passing, the flicks come in when needed, the off balance shows depending on how technically gifted the player is, the jostling is wonderful. Truly outstanding job.

Following on from the animations:

- Dribbling and movement in general is very organic, nothing at all is on rails, I had a moment when Ribery was charging down the flank, i pressed sprint too much and he organically overran the ball the ball feels totally free from the players.

- There is a clear player weight, some players feel heavier than others due to physique and stats implemented well.

- If you drop the shoulder using the right stick the animations look bang on.

- Keeper saves are very good in general, a good variety of them on show, their are more fluid in their delivery of passes now.

Away from the Animations:

- Superb Graphics overall, night time in the Konami stadium looks outstanding.

- The CPU really keep the ball superbly, they create a chess match like game, its about covering spaces, looking to take advantage of any mistake they make. It's not easy at all to score or break them down. There is a clear intention for a realistic balance for this game.

- Even 4 bar passing while rather easy still retains realism in its physics, 3 Bars seems pretty good, 0 or 1 bar is gorgeous but suffers because of the bad responsiveness so its best to stick to 3/4 bars for now.

- Andrea Pirlo's Passing is just fantastic, You can hit balls with him like no other player in this game, he has Player ID and his movements are different to everyone.

Last thing I'll speak about is ratings, Italy seem rather overrated and in general the ratings aren't good, The individuality is still there despite this to show the games gigantic amount of potential but they seem more generically implemented. De Rossi has 85 i think for Dribbling which is wrong, should be at the most 76, he's not a dribbler, he's a kick orientated technician with a fantastic range of passing and intelligent defensive and offensive movement.

In general I think they aren't great, not up to Konami's usual good standards, although PES 2012 was similar and they did rectify them after the first update to a decent extent.

I've spoken before about the ratings changing, there is no more speed merchant now, the player cards have changed. I'll list these later.

Overall

I spoken a lot about the negatives, mainly because if fixed,we have one hell of a game here people, will it be perfect? Not sure, I doubt we will ever find perfection, but if this responsiveness issue is sorted. fuck even if your a ardent FIFA only fan, if your a fan of football or any game. this shit needs to be played.

What I'll be looking for in the 'proper demo' not this beta here is how well the fundamentals of PES 2013 have been retained.
 
yay its loading

be back later with my opinions. I am a football sim fan and play on full manual controls.

been playing fifa since 08. I will be honest I want pes to be back for me
 
can someone check free kicks and these shitty dotted lines? I've heard that it's extremely easy to score...
 
Some of the saves are out of this world. One of the saves i captured on my phone, i was so shocked at how good it was, pure reflexes by buffon.
 
Lots of reviews have been written already.

All I would like to be fixed is players lack of mobility and agility WITH the ball. I'm not talking about sprinting speed, acceleration etc. I'm talking about turning, dribbling, jogging with the ball... they feel like they had one of their foot stuck to the ground, like they could only move from the waist up.

That would make this the best footy game for me.
 
Lami Is the Arabic commentary good reflection to that we are used too on Al jazeera sport?

Any leaks on the edit mode?
 
Well, I finiished the download about 2h ago and it seems that the demo is indeed on my pendrive since it used to have 14gb of free space and now it has 13 gb.

Problem is when I go to USBdevice on my PS3 it says it has no data saved. I think I need to discompact the files on my pc. Unfortunetly my laptop is broken. At night I'll get one to do that.
 
I spoken a lot about the negatives, mainly because if fixed,we have one hell of a game here people, will it be perfect? Not sure, I doubt we will ever find perfection, but if this responsiveness issue is sorted. fuck even if your a ardent FIFA only fan, if your a fan of football or any game. this shit needs to be played.

Cant co-sign this enough.. this has the potential to be something superior to whatever we have ever seen in football games. The game engine is just incredible.
 
Also, i think all the blandant problems most are noticing(like responsiveness) are clear the reason why konami did not want this build to go public...

Said that i dont expect fully responsive controls like FIFA, imo it would ruin the hole porpuse of this new engine(the physics aspects).
 
Guys

First of all my console is modded, so that probably has something to do with it.

I used the pkg creator and created a pkg with it from the demo files and installed it.

I had issues with my firmware version I was on 3.55 so needed to update.

I have a feeling you won't get it to work without it being modded.

Now to the game, I had to switch it off on my second game

I am used to the Xbox 360 controller and the ps3 controller felt wrong, not sure if it was the combination of this game and the ps3 pad but i couldn't take it.

I set my controls to manual and I couldn't do anything, other than simple passes, I liked it but was frustrated

I changed the settings to default and It was easier.

Big difference between this and pes 13 which I have just started playing on the PC, I can win on superstar with full manual controls on pes13

This is much harder and momentum, touch, foot planting needs to be considered which adds to the simulation

No doubt I a not used to the controller or controls of this game, but it feels odd.

It is sluggish but the controller doesn't help, i would expect this to play much better with the Xbox 360 pad, personal preference.

Goal keepers are really bad, I scored a soft goal straight through his hands, near post goals are very bad.

It seems that santos were just so quick at pressing and would out run me

You can feel the difference between players and this game is definitely a simulation, as frustrating as it is

I have high hopes for this and when it is refined it will be a game I will play.

Still can't get over replays being so leggy with poor FPS. It is still demo code they were going to consider being released no wonder they pulled it.

I will get this on the PC but I think I may cancel my pre order of the PS4 I hate the PS3 controller.

I guess the controls have changed of pes14 to pes13?

I don't like how you can't right stick to change player either.
 
Just wanted to say great post, klashman. I'm looking forward to this coming out on the PC.
 
Also, i think all the blandant problems most are noticing(like responsiveness) are clear the reason why konami did not want this build to go public...

Said that i dont expect fully responsive controls like FIFA, imo it would ruin the hole porpuse of this new engine(the physics aspects).

:)

Lami Is the Arabic commentary good reflection to that we are used too on Al jazeera sport?

He's good enough, but commentary still needs to get better in games overall. I'll surely be using his commentary this time. Hopefully on next-gen things get better.
 
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