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walex19 said:
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There is something wrong with that kit on the picture. It should look like this.
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nicknick said:
I like your post Jimmy G, but you humans still don’t get it do you?
It is I who have all the exclusive rights to post gifs in this part of the galaxy!!!
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Sorry, but those were not GIFs. I reverse engineered few emoticons with Emoticons 2013 Animation Gameplay Turbo Matrix Master's Tool.
 
am i seriously the only one that kinda likes the button lag? it adds another level to the game, you don't see players IRL doing everything they want the same instant...the button lag needs to be toned down by only 0,1 seconds and that should be it as with massive toning down there will be skippings and tearings in animations which will result in broken animations and bad transitions...
 
cale1991 said:
am i seriously the only one that kinda likes the button lag? it adds another level to the game, you don't see players IRL doing everything they want the same instant...the button lag needs to be toned down by only 0,1 seconds and that should be it as with massive toning down there will be skippings and tearings in animations which will result in broken animations and bad transitions...
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lesser gameplay for smoother animations? no thanks
 
how is more realism less gameplay?

also, to jump into the card discussion, how on earth are you saying that cards are "magic" when more than half of them are tendency cards?
 
Jamezinho said:
Can anyone tell me if the free camera is back in replays? You know, the one that allowed the view to be rotated up and down, left right, zoom in and out?

I miss that.
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Unfortunately no.The closest camera to that lets you zoom all the way in and all the way out while rotating it all the way around the ball at any level of zoom.
 
TheSteeeeels said:
player movement in the leaked demo is much slower than in real life, in my opinion
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I agree. That's one of the things I mentioned among those I consider should be fixed in order to get the perfect game.



DuduBR9 said:
But here's a question: is this an example of catch up bug ? I don't think santos player should recover that fast, and it's Ribery on the ball, very fast player.

YouTube - PES 2014 -Ribery skills
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Yeah, exactly. That's the catch-up bug I've ranted about for pages, and still people told me it wasn't there and that I didn't knew how to play simulation football, lol. They told me I should try building up instead of just sprinting. But in that video we can see pefectly good that the catch-up bug can ruin the whole experience, no matter what's your style of play.
 
Bitter Rivals said:
http://www.twitch.tv/bitter_rivals/c/2862004

ribery dribbling from own half and then hits post / manual shooting
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I don't want to sound too critical as it's possible you were just messing around, but tbh it looks like you're just randomly moving the sticks around. Practice makes perfect i guess :))

F D B said:
I agree. That's one of the things I mentioned among those I consider should be fixed in order to get the perfect game.
Yeah, exactly. That's the catch-up bug I've ranted about for pages, and still people told me it wasn't there and that I didn't knew how to play simulation football, lol. They told me I should try building up instead of just sprinting. But in that video we can see pefectly good that the catch-up bug can ruin the whole experience, no matter what's your style of play.
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Eh that doesn't look like classic catch up script. It looks more like dudu didn't accelerate in time to outrun the defender. Ribery just sort of jogs while the defender is in an all out sprint.
 
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DuduBR9 said:
Thanks!:))

Another video. Not a goal this time, but it's another example of dribbling just tapping R1. I am loving this!:BOP:

But here's a question: is this an example of catch up bug ? I don't think santos player should recover that fast, and it's Ribery on the ball, very fast player.

YouTube - PES 2014 -Ribery skills
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To be fair you never really got a change to accelerate with ribery cuz of the touch after the dribble..the defender got beat yes but accelerated of on his turn..and got back. The idea is right (logical) but its a little rough..

I play alot of football to know..many times i beat a guy and he comes back at me running "harder" (faster). You should have swiveled and turned him, use his forward momentum against him.
 
sincover said:
Eh that doesn't look like classic catch up script. It looks more like dudu didn't accelerate in time to outrun the defender. Ribery just sort of jogs while the defender is in an all out sprint.
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But Ribery was about 3 meters away already. Even if he wasn't all out sprinting, he's fast enough to keep that distance, I would think.

Anyways, I've witnessed worse situations than that one. Like, a perfect lobbed through ball from Muller (from my own half) to Ribery (near the opponents box) leaving Ribery all by himself to just spring and score, and all of a sudden a defender got to me and blocked me even when he was about 7-10 meters away and I was using R1 all the way.
 
Im done with this demo i think. Shit is starting to annoy me.

- Goalkeepers are fucking awful at their nearpost.
- Player switching isnt happening for me, weird selections when i chnage player
- power bar!!! Nowhere near powerful enough at full power. Long pass should be the length of the park and short pass should be zinging at full power.

There are some good stuff too honest, for those that dont have it.
 
cowden_harley said:
Im done with this demo i think. Shit is starting to annoy me.

- Goalkeepers are fucking awful at their nearpost.
- Player switching isnt happening for me, weird selections when i chnage player
- power bar!!! Nowhere near powerful enough at full power. Long pass should be the length of the park and short pass should be zinging at full power.

There are some good stuff too honest, for those that dont have it.
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you missed the worst one (though it may only be for manual players)

- awful player awareness. players either don't react to your pass or run past the ball altogether. it makes intricate midfield play close to impossible
 
F D B said:
But Ribery was about 3 meters away already. Even if he wasn't all out sprinting, he's fast enough to keep that distance, I would think.

Anyways, I've witnessed worse situations than that one. Like, a perfect lobbed through ball from Muller (from my own half) to Ribery (near the opponents box) leaving Ribery all by himself to just spring and score, and all of a sudden a defender got to me and blocked me even when he was about 7-10 meters away and I was using R1 all the way.
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CAVEAT: I haven't played the demo so I can't comment too deeply on PES 2014 specifically.

However, traditionally, holding R1 is never enough to outrun a defender (especially on Top Player/Super Star) simply because of the fact that the offensive player has to control a ball while sprinting. This is why PES has always had the 'knock on' function (R1/R2), which allows you to knock the ball a large distance ahead before sprinting to meet it. The result is faster sprinting on the ball, which can be used to give fast players (with good ball control stats) more of an edge vs defenders.
The tactical problem with knock on is that you lose control for the entire period that the ball is away from the player's feet. It's a very deep mechanic that requires a great deal of thought, practice and good judgement.

On the other hand...

It's also possible that the catch up script exists (as it did in PES 2011) and everything I said above won't do jack shit. :P:P
 
All this talk about player awareness this and player awareness that, catch up bugs...don't you realize the official demo is gonna be released next week (11th)..what is the point of being hyper critical of something that isn't even relative.:ROLL:
Its almost like going back and playing PES6 and complaining that the isn't 360 degree movement.

Especially when people who actually played the official demo clearly stated that awareness was improved among other things..

After the 11th you can be how hyper critical you want..
 
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