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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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my point is still valid, the game is complete now as were only 4-5 weeks until release. there wont be any changes from gamescon to release so % talk is silly.no doubt there'll be a patch day 1
 
IGN video is boring...

Adam didn't play well...The same with Masuda in E3's presentation..Just waste the time...

The game has a very good animations but i don't like the passing animations when the player is standing..
 
Gab_ said:
Last 25% are defensive AI and nets. BELIEVE!
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NO!;)

It has to be the feature "unlocking the locked runs", and this without pressing supercancel:PRAY:. I still see some on rail runs after a through pass or any pass 5 feets ahead of the players. I want to have controll over the player that recieves the pass aimed into space.
 
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the last 25% is modes and online
the gameplay is now being just tweaked but it's already done
 
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People have been complaining about the fact that the game didn't have a more instantaneous response on passing in the old builds, so it seems to me that Konami brought back some of those awkward passing animations from pes 2013 to improve the respopnsiveness. You can see that on this gif.

Fuck those feedbacks always making Konami taking the wrong decision!!
 
goalgerd said:
my point is still valid, the game is complete now as were only 4-5 weeks until release. there wont be any changes from gamescon to release so % talk is silly.no doubt there'll be a patch day 1
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No it's not valid, and no fact. There are other things yet to be added, finalized, and polished.
 
DuduBR9 said:
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People have been complaining about the fact that the game didn't have a more instantaneous response on passing in the old builds, so it seems to me that Konami brought back some of those awkward passing animations from pes 2013 to improve the respopnsiveness. You can see that on this gif.

Fuck those feedbacks always making Konami taking the wrong decision!!
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Why is this gif sped up to crazy speed?
 
LADS, we are getting another video sometime soon!!


Daniel Krupa ‏@danielkrupa 22h (Yesterday)

@broxopios @MUFan23 first one (video) will be up tomorrow. It's the first day of the Premier League season. Makes sense. Sorry to keep you waiting.

EDIT: THE NEXT PES14 full gameplay vid from IGn WILL BE UP TOMORROW!!

nebakos7 ‏@nebakos7 54m

@Adam_Bhatti Will tommorow's IGN video be a gameplay one too? Also are you going to tell us anything about the demo in that video?

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 10m
@nebakos7 yes gameplay. No demo news
 
Haha flipping heck... You bit that one hard....

henrys hand said:
Man, you are so naive, she is an attention-whore that has a nice body with nice boobs that found out that watching her in videos turns a lot of people on, and so she shows herself for fame and money.

That said, I find that video where she is air-guitaring pretty awesome.:APPLAUD:

As to PES 2014: I'm still very cautious, because it's still not clear if the real problems of PES 2011-2013 were fixed.

Sure we know now that animations and physics will be better, and that the ball will be a bit more free and that thanks to the new engine the graphics will look nice.

But even though those are areas where PES 2011-2013 lacked, those are not the areas that were the most troublesome. The most troublesome areas are imho regarding CPU-AI, cheating, clipping-issues..:

With bad graphics and not so varied animation in PES 2013 I can live with, I can adapt to that, but what I can't ignore no matter how hard I try is the playerswitching on semi-assist selecting the worng player when I make a manual space into space and having no way to change that wrong selection. And I can't deal with my defense player not able to stop an easy pass and simply letting it through their legs, because it was meant to go through by the CPU, and just as infuriating the CPU simply taking control of players I select and dragging them back a little, so that the opposing CPU gets more room for their attack..

Or with the CPU nearly every free shot, from nearly any position and distance.. getting in while on the other side, it takes my attackers 10 attempts before one is successful, sometimes my attackers can't even shoot into a completely open goal, simply because the CPU decides it's not the right time for me to score, and therefore massively interfering into the aiming.

So as grateful as I'm for a new engine with better graphics/animation/physics, PES 2014 still it has to prove if it fixed the really troublesome aspects of the previous versions and offers a really good AI and balance that offers a nice varied challenge in singleplayer-competitions without resorting to blatant cheating and offers therefore an experience that rewards good playing in the long run.
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_anderson said:
Lots of "PES2013 moments" on the AI, the most glaring are the ones where the ball just goes straight through a player. Animations and graphics are all new and they do look great, but the main dribbling animations look way too "light" (FIFA-like).
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It's clear as day Mr. Tanvir words has clouded your judgement since past couple of weeks.

Otoh, i can't wait for Asim to play the new code at the Gamescom and see how people will react to his review.
 
They really should get rid of those ugly toe poke passes, who the fuck passes the ball like that ?
 
One point about the graphics, I won't be able to tell until the demo but I'm still concerned about how 'HD' they look. Don't get me wrong, the lighting and animation looks vastly superior to 2013 but it still looks like it might be quite low resolution like the last two PES games. Maybe it's just the compassion of the videos but its slightly concerning.

I want brand spanking new HD visuals.
 
Yup that awful GK diving after top ball into his hands and toe passing animations are atrocious from aesthetic point of view. It's almost as annoying as FIFA trailer where all players do outside foot passing and outside foot shooting... Overused junk.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
One point about the graphics, I won't be able to tell until the demo but I'm still concerned about how 'HD' they look. Don't get me wrong, the lighting and animation looks vastly superior to 2013 but it still looks like it might be quite low resolution like the last two PES games. Maybe it's just the compassion of the videos but its slightly concerning.

I want brand spanking new HD visuals.
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Pc Pes is always the best for HD graphics
 
info0 said:
Yup that awful GK diving after top ball into his hands and toe passing animations are atrocious from aesthetic point of view. It's almost as annoying as FIFA trailer where all players do outside foot passing and outside foot shooting... Overused junk.
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Outside of the foot with their weaker foot for some too ...
 
Lami said:
No it's not valid, and no fact. There are other things yet to be added, finalized, and polished.
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Sorry, but a month before release the game has to have gold status. If Konami is still adding new features for the game on retail disc, it would be ridiculous.

Working on patches or dlc would make sense, but not on release version.
 
I still find passing animations very weird from what ive seen in that last vid. Completely unatural and out of context, not just by how they touch the ball but also the body reaction to it.
 
goalgerd said:
my point is still valid, the game is complete now as were only 4-5 weeks until release. there wont be any changes from gamescon to release so % talk is silly.no doubt there'll be a patch day 1
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I agree. The game is complete. Percentage talk is nonsense at this point.

Having said that I'm not worried, game looks great and we have yair, jenkey, and nesa on our side! The game will be great!
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
One point about the graphics, I won't be able to tell until the demo but I'm still concerned about how 'HD' they look. Don't get me wrong, the lighting and animation looks vastly superior to 2013 but it still looks like it might be quite low resolution like the last two PES games. Maybe it's just the compassion of the videos but its slightly concerning.

I want brand spanking new HD visuals.
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The PC can obviously handle anything you throw at it but the old consoles would not be able to keep up. Next gen is slightly better but still nowhere near the potential of a PC. Hopefully, they created this with PC primarily in mind. That way we will get the full potential.
 
You know, with the animations, if the game wasn't called PES and didn't have a bad reputation for animations, people wouldn't say one bad word about what they have seen.

I'm surprised people are still talking about them. What is the fear about, they are going to be good on the whole because of the engine.

Anyway, an important thing which has been missed massively

INJURIES.

I spoke about this a month ago, seen no action on them since, we need at least system like in PES 5, I think the FIFA system which is very good and adjustable with sliders porbably wont happen.

Its been terrible since PES 2010 and diabolical last yea. No cutscene, no context to the action which injured the player and in master league they aren't out for long enough.

Its not hard to program either.
 
My only complaints are the defensive awareness. Other than that, I love everything. Can you imagine the sexy presentation that a CL final will have? :APPLAUD: The even greater news is that Heart can be disabled and is already disabled online.

klashman69 said:
You know, with the animations, if the game wasn't called PES and didn't have a bad reputation for animations, people wouldn't say one bad word about what they have seen.
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FULLY AGREE. The animations are MILES ahead of what FIFA has ever offered. I am more than pleased w/ them and the look of the game, in general.
 
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Xav1 said:
My only complaints are the defensive awareness. Other than that, I love everything. Can you imagine the sexy presentation that a CL final will have? :APPLAUD: The even greater news is that Heart can be disabled and is already disabled online.


FULLY AGREE. The animations are MILES ahead of what FIFA has ever offered. I am more than pleased w/ them and the look of the game, in general.
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not sure if this is sarcasm or not.
 
Yup, the animations are good. Almost everything built with purpose. Not just a matter of tech showcase. The physics such as inertia, weight and ball separation force the player to think 2 steps ahead.
 
Erm toe passing animation is reused since PES 2009. That animation HAS TO GO TO BIN. Same goes for GK diving after the ball is in his hands...

Seriously... WTF are they smoking at KONAMI at times :D.

GK reactions are imo still light years ahead of PES (yes, I know FIFA GK seem like robots at times).

Everything else is pro PES though. Definitely love collision system much more than Impact Engine on FIFA... ;)

The lightning at Day time is amazing. Btw are we still limited to 2 day cycles? Day and Night? As I have not seen any footage from Afternoon matches or Dusk.

Would like to see Rain and how physics change... Kits getting dirty, skid marks. ;]
 
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