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Absolute and utter horse shit. The amount of vairation of long balls on PES2013 is far more than any other
dont defend a broken game, yes he's absolutely right, crossing is shit in pes 2013,also when it happens to be that the heading system is broken, shooting is a disgrace, u can't play the game well until u patch and tweak the gameplay!!!!that's if u want to spend time on that..i play fifa 13 to make up for loss time with no good pes games, let's see with 2014...
 
PES 2013 was a great game. People are too quick to jump to conclusions and try to blow the negatives(which it has)out of proportion. I had minimal issues with AI, Keepers or my defensive organisation. Did I encounter certain glitches, sure. Did the AI force a goal once or twice, sure. But as I got to know the game better and its intricacies, I adapted my style and managed to have many enjoyable matches and score stunning goals.

PES 2014 represents a new step toward a more advanced version of Football. A brand new engine is being used, there will be glitches, just like with every other game ever made. But until you physically sit and play either the Demo or the Full version of PES 2014 nobody can sit on their chair and make blanket statements about things which they are yet to experience. I hope that PES2014 provides me with a fun experience of a sport I have always enjoyed physically participating in.

Read previews, read reviews but realise that the best judge is yourself. Whether the game is fun is up to your interpretation, nobody else`s. Games that somebody else loves, you may not enjoy and vice versa. Still hopeful of Demo date soon, and hopeful that PES and Fifa keep pushing each other forward.

Lovely to see another balance post, just like pepper on the previous page.
 
PES 2013 was a great game. People are too quick to jump to conclusions and try to blow the
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tell me step by step how u tweaked the game to play? did u patch it, tweaked the gameplay???!!!! i couldn't play more than one day pes 2013, i felt i wasn't in control of the movement of the players, the most uncontrollable pes game i ever tried, offline i mean, i couldn't stand it, players out of nowhere turning into a messi and dribble past 5-6 players, outrageous!!i had my tong hanging out, : what the heck just happened...
 
dont defend a broken game, yes he's absolutely right, crossing is shit in pes 2013,also when it happens to be that the heading system is broken, shooting is a disgrace, u can't play the game well until u patch and tweak the gameplay!!!!that's if u want to spend time on that..i play fifa 13 to make up for loss time with no good pes games, let's see with 2014...

Crossing has many variations in 2013. What lets it down is that it feels too assisted/locked on. Seems that there is more control/freedom from the videos so far so that's encouraging.

I could score some nice headed goals but there was a very small window of button pressing opportunity for the timing to be spot on. Anything outside of that and the header would float or sail over.

Shooting wasn't too bad - R2 shots needed more power sometimes and the keeper animations rather than keeper reactions cheapened the satisfaction of scoring too often.

There was also too much locking on of players during the physical battles.

No doubt there will still be frustrations with PES 2014 but it does appear from the video to have opened up the gameplay freedom - the way the ball moves anyway.

I loved the slower pace and better visuals of the mid range cam but want that zoomed out, which I can finally do on the new game. Maybe even a Long Cam with the height reduced so it's closer to ground level.

I think tomorrow there will be some gameplay footage via IGN UK who interviewed Adam the other day. Either way, it's no more than a week or two before we should get a demo.
 
dont defend a broken game, yes he's absolutely right, crossing is shit in pes 2013,also when it happens to be that the heading system is broken, shooting is a disgrace, u can't play the game well until u patch and tweak the gameplay!!!!that's if u want to spend time on that..i play fifa 13 to make up for loss time with no good pes games, let's see with 2014...


I am not defending anything.

He is lying as are you and I will be willing to post a video based on PES2013 on the PS3 to prove my point. very little wrong with shooting and heading in PES2013

You kids these days expect pes to be like PES 6 where you could run down the wing press O and boom header Adriano.

In PES 2013 (with all assists off) you have to pick your team mate out and place your headers as well as time the jump.

On the shooting side you can hit low hard drivers, you an lob deep lob low and nutmeg the keeper IF YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH

If you cant handle it go play FIFA but dont moan or the game to be toned down to accommodate for your needs. Its catering for the casual gamers that has caused half the problems we have with PES
 
dude if ribery kept running he wouldv over ran and missed the ball, he had to slow down, definately dont see the catch up bug, not at the moment, no one can say nothing atm till we play the demo, too much speculation on here its bloody ridiuclus

Thats right
 
I am not defending anything.

He is lying as are you and I will be willing to post a video based on PES2013 on the PS3 to prove my point. very little wrong with shooting and heading in PES2013

Heading is absolutly WRONG ! Crossing too.
 
"If you can't handle it, go play FIFA" is the poorest of arguments that borders on intolerance. On an internet forum one should always respect other persons' opinion.
No offense meant but this is the reaction of a 12 year old. I have a son who is 10 years old and he has more balanced views and opinions about FIFA and PES.
This is afine example of what is wrong with this thread.
99% of the evo-web are per definition PES-lovers. Some are disappointed with current gen, but most of us really are pro PES. Knowing that using the "if you can't handle..."-argument is plain silly.
 
I have a son who is 10 years old and he has more balanced views and opinions about FIFA and PES.
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Certainly very exciting playing games with our own children. Who win?
As far as I observe, all soccer games is still yet to characterize the real game of football, it still takes time to get the ideal result desired by a football game lovers who allegedly also was the football team's supporter. Where as they blaspheme the coaches and the players basically this form his love of the team. The good opinion; I believe that will make the football gaming getting better and headed in the right direction. And so far I'm still believes the true King has returned ...
 
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Come on guys PES 2013 is not really that bad, yes it has it's flaws like A.I. scripting(which can be solved on PC version by using Jenkey gameplay mod), last gen animations and physics, annoying catch-up bug,shitty online and offline modes but on the other hand i think it plays a better and more realistic football game than Fifa 11/12/13.Fifa is fundamentally flawed,stats don't really have an impact beside strength and acceleration/speed,player models are totally unrealistic,if you see past the smooth animations you get a very repetitive experience...you just can't have a proper football or any sports game without inertia/momentum.The only good aspect of Fifa are the fun online modes(and even those are filled with kidz with mad skillzz and pace abusers).
What i'm trying to say is that both games are flawed but from what i can see the PES team has the better football vision , they started this generation with an underpowered engine but delivered a better experience than Fifa which began this generation very promissing with Fifa 08(maybe the best football game on Xbox 360/PS3) and we all know how it ended...
In conclusion i think we should lower our expectations and not forget PES 2014 is a current gen game and even if it's using FOX engine it will be very limited by the hardware(0,25 Tflops/512 MB RAM).
 
dont defend a broken game, yes he's absolutely right, crossing is shit in pes 2013,also when it happens to be that the heading system is broken, shooting is a disgrace, u can't play the game well until u patch and tweak the gameplay!!!!that's if u want to spend time on that..i play fifa 13 to make up for loss time with no good pes games, let's see with 2014...

tell me step by step how u tweaked the game to play? did u patch it, tweaked the gameplay???!!!! i couldn't play more than one day pes 2013, i felt i wasn't in control of the movement of the players, the most uncontrollable pes game i ever tried, offline i mean, i couldn't stand it, players out of nowhere turning into a messi and dribble past 5-6 players, outrageous!!i had my tong hanging out, : what the heck just happened...

Zee was a bit too overly harsh and angry with his point.

However I think you have basically spelt out your own downfalls with the game.

i couldn't play more than one day pes 2013, i felt i wasn't in control of the movement of the players,

You just haven't invested enough time to make any judgement on the game properly, you came into the game, expected it to play like the PS2 games did, expected because you know the PS2 games well to be an instant master and then found it was too hard and now your ego just can't take it so its hates on the game.

Instead of coming into a game with pre conceptions and pre programming of what you expect it to play like, you should always treat a game as a brand new product and clear your mind of what has happened before. That is how you learn, don't expect it to fit your egos definition of how football should play, try to explore the game to see what benefits the game and what doesn't.

There is nothing else we can say to this, you might as well just not bother with PES 2014 since it will use the same core gameplay mechanics from PES 2013 with new physics, animations and higher quality graphics.

On PES 2013 just like it was in the old school PES games, the ones before PES6 where it became rather easy, its all about setting the team up tactically so it plays the way which suits you. If you don't set your team up on this game 9/10 times you will lose, I guarantee you this.

The 'I don't have any control' is the inertia and player stats at work. Unlike in PES6 every player will feel very substantially different, it takes time to develop a playing style which suits your individuals. I have a video of a goal from Bryan Ruiz which will show you what is capable when you get used to the dribbling.

In the first .gif, Ribéry should continue to run until he reaches the ball. There's a high chance the Santos player can win the ball there. If this scene happened IRL, Bayern fans would accuse Ribéry of not offering a good enough performance.

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I think the conclusion we can come to on this is rightfully followed on from your good point here.

I think your point is valid. To finish off using your point, its clear at the point where I presume 'Ribery' slowed down, the :circle: button was pressed and at that point Ribery started to sort his feet out and prepare for the cross.

Its clear if Ribery kept running he would of still easily beaten the defender and kept storming into the box which would had eventually lead to him cutting the ball back for Mandzukic, again he slowed down because the cross button was pressed early, there is no reason why if this wasn't pressed he could of just kept on going.

That should clear up that gif. :)

So that is not 'catch up bug' after all.
 
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Misc thing i really want to be included :
16:10 resolution support. It's silly this isn't supported without stretching image.
 
Definitely no catch up bug. Ribery is just slowing down for the cross.

also PES 2013 biggest issue was the assumption of the physical battles, this for me is the most frustrating issue. Due to the lack of tech in the old engine physical battles were a lottery and this was so frustrating because it became difficulty level dependant instead of player stats.
 
PES 2014′s Xbox 360 achievements have emerged ahead of the game’s launch. Beware of SPOILERS. Nah just kidding, it’s a sports game.

The list was compiled by X360A. The game’s out on PS3 and Xbox 360 in North America from September 24, and across Europe on September 27.

First Win: Exhibition – 5G
Awarded for defeating the COM for the first time in [Exhibition].

First Win: UEFA Champions League – 10G
Awarded for defeating the COM for the first time in [UEFA Champions League].

UEFA Champions League Winner – 25G
Awarded for becoming a [UEFA Champions League] Winner.

First Win: UEFA Europa League – 10G
Awarded for winning your first match against the COM in [UEFA Europa League].

UEFA Europa League Winner – 25G
Awarded for becoming a [UEFA Europa League] Winner.

Copa Libertadores First Win – 10G
Awarded for defeating the COM for the first time in [Copa Libertadores].

Copa Libertadores Winner – 25G
Awarded for becoming a [Copa Libertadores] Winner.

First Win: AFC Champions League – 10G
Awarded for winning your first match against the COM in [AFC Champions League].

AFC Champions League Winner – 25G
Awarded for becoming a [AFC Champions League] Winner.

Cup Winners – 20G
Awarded for single-handedly guiding a team to Cup glory in [Cup].

International Cup Winner – 30G
Awarded for becoming Winner of the International Cup.

The Debutant – 10G
Awarded for making a professional debut in [Become a Legend].

League Champions – 30G
Awarded for winning the League Title in [Become a Legend].

League Best Eleven – 30G
Awarded for being picked for the Team of the Season in [Become a Legend].

Best European Footballer – 40G
Awarded for winning the UEFA Best Player in Europe Award [Become a Legend].

Best South American Footballer – 40G
Awarded for being named South American Player of the Year in [Become a Legend].

Best Asian Footballer – 40G
Awarded for being named Footballer of the Year in Asia in [Become a Legend].

World Footballer of the Year – 60G
Awarded for being named World Footballer of the Year in [Become a Legend].

First Win: Master League – 10G
Awarded for your first win in [Master League].

Promoted – 20G
Awarded for Winning Promotion to a Top League in [Master League].

To Pastures Anew – 15G
Awarded for moving teams in [Master League].

Champion Manager – 30G
Awarded for winning the League Title in any of the Top Leagues featured in [Master League].

Kings of Europe – 40G
Awarded for becoming a UEFA Champions League Winner in [Master League].

Kings of Latin America – 40G
Awarded for becoming a Copa Libertadores Winner in [Master League].

Ruler of Asia – 40G
Awarded for becoming a AFC Champions League Winner in [Master League].

European Treble Winners – 50G
Awarded for winning the League, UEFA Champions League and League Cup in a [Master League] season.

Latin American Treble Winners – 50G
Awarded for League, Copa Libertadores and Cup wins in a [Master League] season.

Asian Treble Winners – 50G
Awarded for winning the League, AFC Champions League and League Cup in a [Master League] season.

No.1 Club – 60
Awarded for being named the No.1 Club in the [Master League] Club Rankings.

Leading the Nation – 30G
Awarded for becoming a national team manager in [Master League].

World Champions – 60G
Awarded to the Winner of the International Cup in [Master League].

Performance Training Master – 60G
Awarded for completing all challenges in [Performance Training].
 
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Asian League Treble...J LEAGUE!!!

and To Pastures Anew...I thought we couldn't switch jobs, or did i miss some news?

Or are these achievements fake and i've been fooled??
 
I am not defending anything.
If you cant handle it go play FIFA but dont moan or the game to be toned down to accommodate for your needs. Its catering for the casual gamers that has caused half the problems we have with PES
my argument is spot on, and many others agree with me on the flaws i mentioned, pes went downhill after pes 6,i don't ignore that pes 2013 has positives, but it has too many negatives that's whats wrong. and please u sound like a 10 year old with that comment, don't u have anything better to say.
 
Definitely no catch up bug. Ribery is just slowing down for the cross.

also PES 2013 biggest issue was the assumption of the physical battles, this for me is the most frustrating issue. Due to the lack of tech in the old engine physical battles were a lottery and this was so frustrating because it became difficulty level dependant instead of player stats.
i'm glad u agree with me on the frustrating issues of that game,
 
Asian League Treble...J LEAGUE!!!

and To Pastures Anew...I thought we couldn't switch jobs, or did i miss some news?

Or are these achievements fake and i've been fooled??

Yes you missed the info about the possibly of switching jobs in the ML
 
my argument is spot on, and many others agree with me on the flaws i mentioned, pes went downhill after pes 6,i don't ignore that pes 2013 has positives, but it has too many negatives that's whats wrong. and please u sound like a 10 year old with that comment, don't u have anything better to say.

Pot. Kettle. Nuff said.
 
very bad video , too similar to pes2013

Yes, similar to pes 2013 in animations. A step backward for sure. Maybe they removed some transitions to solve the tank-like inertiz problem.

i don't know, but the way animations link into each other is not so good as previous videos released
 
That was an awesome clip about heart. Best i've seen yet.
My last post wasn't about the game. It was about reactions about the game. You can't judge it before having played the game. Not negative, but not positive either. All i can say that it looks great. But i also liked the looks of Pes 2013 and i didn't liked the game ( note that i didn't say it was a bad game).
There should be more respect for other people's opinions in this thread.
 
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