. That means that THERE are problems to be fixed..
. Thats how miserable current gen pes is for me and many more people. Tired myself of putting excuses on pes 2012 and trying to get to it all over again for like 10th time, but it simply has more flaws than positive things over older gen ones, thats unbelievable.
Now 2 matches max three with Pes 2012 and i have enough.
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+1 I could play PES 6 for 10 hours and i wanted more...
Sorry, but erm no?
Pro Evolution of current gen broke something which was of GREAT importance to us, Pro Evolution 3-6 era fans. That is individuality. Be it in players or teams.
I got back to playing WE9LE with friends and solo vs AI. The thing is after 1 week of playing it, you start to notice what current titles are sadly missing. I won't say PES 2012 didn't bring me joy, because it did. Much more than the competition.
But there are things I miss from old titles: great goalkeepers, ball which was feeling like separate entity, referees who made mistakes! (yup, wrongly called offside decisions or disallowing onside goal/getting lenient or harsh on tackles), team individuality meaning each game felt way different to the other before, AI was not parking the bus in front of goal, but was quite clever on how to get to your goal area, t-shirts and shorts getting dirtied in rainy/snow/sunny weather, turf changing attributes while in rainy/snowy weather (the ball stopped faster after a while of rain), etc. There is more, but you know what I mean.
As you can see I don't moan about animations or graphics that much, but gameplay elements.
To klashman saying about taking step back and getting off forums. As you can see my join date is... 2011. Sadly, I had the same problems with PES 2008 and next iterations of the game. I joined in 2011 because I couldn't stand how poor current PES are getting. Sad to say but a lot of people share exactly the same opinion to mine
Unfortunately friends I gave the game to and recommended them to play it, after a while noticed the problems of PES 2012 too. Faster than one would expect, but on more positive side they are true football fans and despite it's flaws enjoyed it.
I agree and disagree, it is the most realistic representation of the sport but it hardly has much competition. That said, I do still love the series and despite it nearly causing me to throw my TV out of the window it still has that 'one more go' factor that, for me, the competition simply doesn't have. However, it still is a bug ridden mess. As fun as the game can be, there are more issues with the game than any other I've ever played.
I mean I've come across these issues:
- Bizarre collision detection where I can be running in full control of the ball, someone bumps into the side of me and the ref calls for a foul against me.
- Player switching issues totally removing control from my players with the worst possible timing.
- Occasional bizarre GK moments, where they come miles out of their area.
- Very rare occurences where the keeper just doesn't react at all, instead he runs towards the ball at someone's feet like he's going to pick it up, and the ball is kicked into an unguarded net
- Bizarre shooting issues where shots go in the completely opposite direction to where your direction stick and even player body position dictate.
- AI issues where your defenders 'pause' their run off the ball, allowing the CPU to run in on goal or leaves them with an easy chance on goal, mainly with through-balls.
- Dodgy AI marking where defenders just run away from their marker and off in a bizarre direction in their own six-yard-box moments before a cross comes in.
- I scored a goal recently that hit the underside of the bar and was clearly visible as being over the line, but again, I presume some kind of collision detection issues meant it didn't register as a goal.
Oh, and the bug that occurred the other night where the ball went off for a goal kick, I paused the game and pressed replay, then saw there were no players on the pitch during that replay. I came out of that, un-paused the game, and the CPU keeper refused to take his goal kick. I then realised I had control of my player, and to my amusement was able to run him into the penalty area, and could acutally take the ball from where the CPU was going to take its goal kick, and scored a goal that was allowed to stand
I do see what you say, there are plenty of amazing positives about the game, but the number of issues and bugs does still really need sorting.
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) and instantly recognize him and when he runs and moves you feel it's him. The flair and character of the people is better represented in PES 5.
Because we are talking about different aspects: I was talking about individual look and animation of players, and zee was talking about individual skills. The individual skill-set is better represented in PES 2012, but not the individual look and animation of players.
In PES 5 you can see Henry (yes I use him as an example because of my profile-name
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