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PES 2011 vs 2012 vs 2013?

It's always good to see this trilogy get some love, it really does feel sandwiched between PS2 PES, and the early PS3 installments which kept a similar formula, and the FOX Engine ones. I find PES2011 to be the best simulation, while PES2013 is the better video game for most people, though PES2012 was the only one I actually bought, early on I regretted that because players felt so light, shooting was unsatisfying, and defending felt impossible for a younger me, but it was the only one I owned until I bouth PES2015, so in 3 years I got the hang of it and learned to love it, especially since it introduced a feature I love nowadays, FUMA. I don't think you're missing out by not playing it more, because PES2011 and PES2013 are superior, but if you do ever get back to it for another go, what I recommend is to avoid pressing, just do the hold up play/jockey and let go of the button when you absolutely need to try a tackle, or if it's an easier tackle to get right, the shooting also grew on me because of how unpredictable it is, and FUMA... feels great here, I recommend it.
 
What I didn't like about the trio is that Konami didn't really carry on the players stats update after the winter update, the way they did for PES 2009-2010. They did some updated for players but the same in term of quantity like the ones mentionned. I can mention Neymar on PES 2011.
 
The only real issue I have with PES 2012 is the training system, with the assigned points.. It still seems a bit confusing to me, that in order to guarantee growth in players you have to switch the training regime every week. I've read in some forums that there is supposedly a "formula", (technique/tactics/physical/speed) but I was never quite able to figure it out. Maybe someone with experience in PES 2012 ML can illuminate? Otherwise, from the exhibitions I've played, it seems like a very solid game, a mix of PES 2011's midfield battles and 2013's dynamism.
 
Well, I'll give you my personal opinion on all three games. I played them extensively on the PS3 when each one was released, and I recently redownloaded them all to play on PC.

Well, 2011's gameplay is quite clunky; you don't have full control over marking players; it's very automated, not to mention the gameplay is quite robotic. 2012's a very fast-paced game; you can easily move from the defensive half to the attack and score goals with ease. However, the passing and even shooting speeds are exaggerated. Not to mention, the ball seems to stick to the players' feet, like glue. 2013 was the sweet spot for all of them; you have more autonomy to score, shoot, dribble, and even use goalkeepers, despite the significant shortcomings of long balls, which could have easily been fixed in PES 2014, but the rest is history. Clearly, the trilogy was a period of creation and adaptation until PES 2013.

The graphics are excellent for their time; I think they're very similar, and logically, they improved over time. I'll stick with all three games. Gameplay-wise, I'll stick with PES 2013. I think it's the most balanced of the three games and still very entertaining for everyone. The playlist could have been better, too, but that's not something I consider that important.

1st PES 2013
2nd PES 2012
3rd PES 2011
 
millossobek said:
The only real issue I have with PES 2012 is the training system, with the assigned points.. It still seems a bit confusing to me, that in order to guarantee growth in players you have to switch the training regime every week. I've read in some forums that there is supposedly a "formula", (technique/tactics/physical/speed) but I was never quite able to figure it out. Maybe someone with experience in PES 2012 ML can illuminate? Otherwise, from the exhibitions I've played, it seems like a very solid game, a mix of PES 2011's midfield battles and 2013's dynamism.
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I replayed that trilogy, and got a blast with that 2012 version which seems not perhaps the most sim but the one that i would purpose to start if you ask me to choose and you never played those version.
I remember i was unhappy with the removal of stats but some could've be calculated with height or something like that parameters but i'm too old and disinterested for searching about those game.

About my very bad opinion about PES 2013, it's perhaps the one with the most content and tactics. But i agree in many factors
@BluesyShrimper mentionned, especially about all the weird things happening in the game, the "playing on mars" effect and there's too much sign that the 2.5 engine is breathing out of his lungs as they tried to add too much stuffs for a pretty weird result and tons of missing animation transition or when you kick the ball the animation isn't corresponding at all at the ball direction like an open footed shoot with the movement turning to the opposite side...
There's nothing of it on the 2 others games....
BUT i don't hate it that much, it's not like all we mentionned happens always except the open bar midfield/defense if you don't move all by yourself which is a bit annoying, then the not that much effective pressing and tackles.

1. 2011 for the long term, harder to learn / 2012 on the short term and easier to take in hands. I can't choose anymore

3. 2013 is now out of my 4-5 hated but i still think it's a wayyy too overrated game, here at least, probably loved because of his "unpredictability", well from my side of view it's more players awareness too limited against and the ball physics causing rebounds with a special trajectory / in the good sense : the rebound system on players or anything else was good
 
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