PES 2011 Master League Online beta Feedback thread

ok here's my feedback from MLO beta judging after having played around 200 matches ; this is what I think about what should be fixed, I'll stress it in email survey from pesfan/Konami after aug 29th, but here's the list :

- refs are not strict at all in beta, they are not giving reds for blatant fouls from behind when I have 1on1 situation, this is just wrong, especially online where gamers already KNOW they can get away with it

- penalty system is too sensitive and I'd scrap it and go back to old one, that's my wish ; in game situation camera pans to wide/normal long and I think it messes shot direction too - that's what I think because I never scored a penalty (had like 20penalties)

- add (bring back actually) option to edit preset messages ingame (I could have my own messages in PES6)

- my biggest gripe is MLO team improvement - it's way too fast ; after like 1week of playing I have 11man squad full of stars (Messi, Pato, Ronaldo, Sneijder, Maicon etc) and I can afford next great ones. That's because my cash income is too fast OR players are too cheap

Division 3 money :
300k for quick match
900k for competition match (that's like 5mln for qualifier matches, result doesn't matter)

Highest valued players are like 20mln after 1week, where in my opinion they should cost at least 50mln from the start (100mln if you want Messi, Kaka, Rooney, Ronaldo etc) ; grind and money sink stuff should be there just for the sake of people going to high end squads in 1week, 20mln for Messi? what a bargain, I can have him in 1day and that shouldn't be the case

And to add to this, I had lot more fun when I had weaker side and had to find interesting and cheap players and use them against gamers who had the same struggle - those matches happened in first days of beta, now I'm in D3 and here everyone (literally) has allstar squad - it's fun too but it happened too fast ; Konami should adjust it like they did in older PES (4,5/6) where I've been completing my squad for months

- so increase player prices to very high (for star players) or decrease cash income significantly (from competitions)

- and of course, rainbow flick fix (50% chance of failure, plus exclusivity to chosen players) would be welcome :)
 
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hi guys finally got a code and started playing the demo must say great improvement from pes2010 within the last 3hrs of gameplay i've noticed that in all the games the gk and defence seems to react very slowly to the offence and keeper still crazy but then again this is an early code lets hope konami has addressed this. My concerns are 1)Team chemistry how does this pan during your online campaign 2)the acquisition of big name players too easy 4)waiting for a game takes a bit too long this they really need to improve. i will post my full review of this beta testing after the session has ended. Anyways got to get back to the online demo so until saturday 28th be sure to check back this forum
 
Is anyone else having connection problems with the beta? I'm finding games well enough, but every game is on just the one red bar, meaning the connection is terrible. The game as a result seems floaty, slow motion, and I'm sure I'm not seeing the proper game in action.

All my other games work online with no issues at all, like MW2, Battlefield BC 2 etc, so I'm not sure why the PES beta seems to be so bad in terms of lag/online connectivity, especially when other people are saying they're barely getting any lag at all. I'm on 50mb broadband, and never had any problems online before.

Can anyone suggest what the problem could be, or is anyone experiencing similar problems? So far the online experience is down there with previous PES games at the moment :(
 
LTFC said:
Is anyone else having connection problems with the beta? I'm finding games well enough, but every game is on just the one red bar, meaning the connection is terrible. The game as a result seems floaty, slow motion, and I'm sure I'm not seeing the proper game in action.

All my other games work online with no issues at all, like MW2, Battlefield BC 2 etc, so I'm not sure why the PES beta seems to be so bad in terms of lag/online connectivity, especially when other people are saying they're barely getting any lag at all. I'm on 50mb broadband, and never had any problems online before.

Can anyone suggest what the problem could be, or is anyone experiencing similar problems? So far the online experience is down there with previous PES games at the moment :(
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I have a 30mb connection and always on one red bar but most of the games were playable. Seems to me like most are having red bars. Is there anyone who's seen yellow or green bars here?
 
LTFC said:
Is anyone else having connection problems with the beta? I'm finding games well enough, but every game is on just the one red bar, meaning the connection is terrible. The game as a result seems floaty, slow motion, and I'm sure I'm not seeing the proper game in action.

All my other games work online with no issues at all, like MW2, Battlefield BC 2 etc, so I'm not sure why the PES beta seems to be so bad in terms of lag/online connectivity, especially when other people are saying they're barely getting any lag at all. I'm on 50mb broadband, and never had any problems online before.

Can anyone suggest what the problem could be, or is anyone experiencing similar problems? So far the online experience is down there with previous PES games at the moment :(
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Yep, I'm kind of in the same situation. I usually get 10-12mb broadband speeds, my PS3 is set-up properly for online play and is hard-wired to my router, and my other online games run smoothly.

I'm getting the same slow-motion games as you and can't understand why. It's not happening every single match but more like every other.
 
I had a game earlier that was so bad with lag that it cancelled the game saying that the connection was too bad to continue.I hope that is automatic so you don't have to quit and be penalized for it.
 
only1ronaldo said:
ok here's my feedback from MLO beta judging after having played around 200 matches ; this is what I think about what should be fixed, I'll stress it in email survey from pesfan/Konami after aug 29th, but here's the list :

- refs are not strict at all in beta, they are not giving reds for blatant fouls from behind when I have 1on1 situation, this is just wrong, especially online where gamers already KNOW they can get away with it

- penalty system is too sensitive and I'd scrap it and go back to old one, that's my wish ; in game situation camera pans to wide/normal long and I think it messes shot direction too - that's what I think because I never scored a penalty (had like 20penalties)

- add (bring back actually) option to edit preset messages ingame (I could have my own messages in PES6)

- my biggest gripe is MLO team improvement - it's way too fast ; after like 1week of playing I have 11man squad full of stars (Messi, Pato, Ronaldo, Sneijder, Maicon etc) and I can afford next great ones. That's because my cash income is too fast OR players are too cheap

Division 3 money :
300k for quick match
900k for competition match (that's like 5mln for qualifier matches, result doesn't matter)

Highest valued players are like 20mln after 1week, where in my opinion they should cost at least 50mln from the start (100mln if you want Messi, Kaka, Rooney, Ronaldo etc) ; grind and money sink stuff should be there just for the sake of people going to high end squads in 1week, 20mln for Messi? what a bargain, I can have him in 1day and that shouldn't be the case

And to add to this, I had lot more fun when I had weaker side and had to find interesting and cheap players and use them against gamers who had the same struggle - those matches happened in first days of beta, now I'm in D3 and here everyone (literally) has allstar squad - it's fun too but it happened too fast ; Konami should adjust it like they did in older PES (4,5/6) where I've been completing my squad for months

- so increase player prices to very high (for star players) or decrease cash income significantly (from competitions)

- and of course, rainbow flick fix (50% chance of failure, plus exclusivity to chosen players) would be welcome :)
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I agree 110% with all that bar the penalties. Check the pens tutorial, once you understand the concept and techniques, it is a perfect system, I cant see how it could be done any better, stat based manual. I had a pens shootout and we both knew the drill, it was awesome, ended 7-6 to me, after he tried to bluff me and I read it. Lucky guess. They look so much better than 2010 yet the principles are exact.

I scored a cracking side bycycle kick with Abriel, his technique is awesome. It was very similar to the Mark Hughes stunner for Wales, only he set himself up. Sorry for the poor quality, it's off the Iphone 4 but the lighting was wrong and I tried to edit it with an app but failed miserably.
Awesome strike though. Its the second goal by the way, and just watched it again, great goal but I aint no Steven fucking Spielberg thats for sure.

YouTube - Abbriel volley

Another by Bangoura, I like this as it's off a cheeky couple of tricks from Saada. It was against Tobi as well I think.

YouTube - Bangoura Goal



 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
I agree 110% with all that bar the penalties. Check the pens tutorial, once you understand the concept and techniques, it is a perfect system, I cant see how it could be done any better, stat based manual. I had a pens shootout and we both knew the drill, it was awesome, ended 7-6 to me, after he tried to bluff me and I read it. Lucky guess. They look so much better than 2010 yet the principles are exact.

I scored a cracking side bycycle kick with Abriel, his technique is awesome. It was very similar to the Mark Hughes stunner for Wales, only he set himself up. Sorry for the poor quality, it's off the Iphone 4 but the lighting was wrong and I tried to edit it with an app but failed miserably.
Awesome strike though. Its the second goal by the way, and just watched it again, great goal but I aint no Steven fucking Spielberg thats for sure.

YouTube - Abbriel volley

Another by Bangoura, I like this as it's off a cheeky couple of tricks from Saada. It was against Tobi as well I think.

YouTube - Bangoura Goal



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Nice scissors kick Jimmy...
 
Could a lot of the later slowdown in MLO be due to the Beta sharing? I am sure Konami had the beta setup for 1000 people or so, but with multiple downloads for each code, they might be dealing with more players than they anticipated.

(Or is it all P2P and those numbers don't matter?)
 
cmon jimmy those tricks were gay and unrealistic, in any league in the world that guy would have been hacked down before getting off the second one... and the volley was ridiculous.. im seeing way too many bikes and scissors.... but the game is looking good
 
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cmon jimmy those tricks were gay and unrealistic, in any league in the world that guy would have been hacked down before getting off the second one... and the volley was ridiculous.. im seeing way too many bikes and scissors.... but the game is looking good
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How on earth are they unrealistic ? They are simple heel turns, pulled off by alot of players to change direction, I admit I only attempted one, the second was in error, but a player hacked down in any league in the world ? Do me a favour, stop being silly.

As for the Scissor Kick, it looked better in real-time due to the height of the ball. I actually pressed shoot earlier than I normally would have due to a rush of blood. I would normally let the ball drop to around knee height and look to catch it on the drop. The fact I took it early and there was an animation for that height was very good. In PES 2010 he would have tried to header that. I've seen that animation 3 times in over 130 games, and that is the first time the ball didnt end up in Row Z.

I suppose the Mark Hughes Scissor Kick was unrealistic as well huh ? Bearing in mind it was exactly the same technique ??? :LOL: Give your head a shake.

Your right the game is stunning, it's just the Rainbow Flicks that are stupid.
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
I agree 110% with all that bar the penalties. Check the pens tutorial, once you understand the concept and techniques, it is a perfect system,
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yeah penalty shootout is fine (checked some tutorials and it helped), but try to score from penalty in a match - camera is different (wide) and controls are screwed, if you know how to score from that please tell me :PIG:
 
It's good that we have animations like that back. Reminds me of PES5 as well. If one attempted to kick the ball at that height then obviously the player should execute the animation as ordered. It's only a problem if it went in everytime.
 
only1ronaldo said:
yeah penalty shootout is fine (checked some tutorials and it helped), but try to score from penalty in a match - camera is different (wide) and controls are screwed, if you know how to score from that please tell me :PIG:
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It's exactly the same system as the behind the player look, but instead of holding left or right for the direction, it's up or down, as you look at it.

If your shooting at the right end of the stadium, tap or hold the shoot for the power, then on the run up, push up to hit it to the keepers right, or down for the keepers left side. Hope that helps.
 
I've made it to the knock out stages of a competition twice and on both occasions I've been knocked out due to the AI defenders automatically and needlessly sliding in and giving away cheap penalties. It's a mountain to climb after that, especially when the opponent only cares about winning at all costs.

:BRICK:

I pray that this won't be an issue in the final game.

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This happened to me today.

YouTube - Blind Goalkeeper - PES 2011 MLO Beta
 
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tobi said:
I've made it to the knock out stages of a competition twice and on both occasions I've been knocked out due to the AI defenders automatically and needlessly sliding in and giving away cheap penalties. It's a mountain to climb after that, especially when the opponent only cares about winning at all costs.

:BRICK:

I pray that this won't be an issue in the final game.

EDIT

This happened to me today.

YouTube - Blind Goalkeeper - PES 2011 MLO Beta
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send this shit to Jon!

There was another video like that... I think one of the first videos who showed that style of shoting a penalty.
The ball hit the goalkeeper's leg and than went in.
They really have to add animations that can be played while another animation is playing. Like when a keeper is falling he can still try to shoot a ball away with his legs. These are 2(!) seperate animations not 1...
 
tobi said:
I've made it to the knock out stages of a competition twice and on both occasions I've been knocked out due to the AI defenders automatically and needlessly sliding in and giving away cheap penalties. It's a mountain to climb after that, especially when the opponent only cares about winning at all costs.

:BRICK:

I pray that this won't be an issue in the final game.

EDIT

This happened to me today.

YouTube - Blind Goalkeeper - PES 2011 MLO Beta
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:LOL:

That happened to me too.
 
i love the quick strategy settings, attack and defence using the select button and R2 and triangle,makes a huge difference if you are chasing a game or defending a lead
 
goalgerd said:
i love the quick strategy settings, attack and defence using the select button and R2 and triangle,makes a huge difference if you are chasing a game or defending a lead
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Are they much different from PES 2010 though?

I scored a very cheap goal last night, some sort of goalkeeper glitch, he saved my penalty at the low center of the goal, then waited patiently on his knees while I ran to pick up the ball, which was about one feet from his hands. Later in the same game I made a long high pass to the box, my attacker rushed to head it but missed, however the keeper seemed to expect the header because he reacted wrong and the pass went right by him and into the goal.
 
Isslander said:
Are they much different from PES 2010 though?

I scored a very cheap goal last night, some sort of goalkeeper glitch, he saved my penalty at the low center of the goal, then waited patiently on his knees while I ran to pick up the ball, which was about one feet from his hands. Later in the same game I made a long high pass to the box, my attacker rushed to head it but missed, however the keeper seemed to expect the header because he reacted wrong and the pass went right by him and into the goal.
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thinks its the same but the player ai reacting to it is alot better
 
read through this thread to get me through the afternoon at work lmao. One thing that struck me is the number of people likening this new PES to a total revolution, it's not lol. We're back to PES5/6 which is good.

Also the other complaint is passes not reaching each other..falling short..this is good. How often do you see perfectly weighted passes in real matches? How many of those do you seen in a row? Some players do have to drop off to collect short passes. Sometimes I want to drop the ball short so my man can drop off his marker.

anyway to echo others, this is the PES I've wanted. The arcadey speed crap can be countered and we're back to playing tactical football now.
 
jokerevo said:
read through this thread to get me through the afternoon at work lmao. One thing that struck me is the number of people likening this new PES to a total revolution, it's not lol. We're back to PES5/6 which is good.

Also the other complaint is passes not reaching each other..falling short..this is good. How often do you see perfectly weighted passes in real matches? How many of those do you seen in a row? Some players do have to drop off to collect short passes. Sometimes I want to drop the ball short so my man can drop off his marker.

anyway to echo others, this is the PES I've wanted. The arcadey speed crap can be countered and we're back to playing tactical football now.
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I dont think we are back to PES 5 and 6, it's streets ahead. There has never been a PES like this, you cant compare it to anything prior. This is completely different brand of Vodka altogether.
 
Just hand a great game against someone called tonimotto, 3-3, some soft goals on both ends but complementing each other on each goal which led to good spirit. Not in anyway like this geezer mike_a2b which accused me of cheating for no reason. Just because I beat him of course. But he went on to beat me twice so I bet he's over it.
 
Mike_a2b, luillyowen23, and others are players to avoid. They are the worst kinds of PES players. Then again I have the 08-09 Barcelona squad minus Messi, Eto'o and Henry so I'm not making a fuss.
 
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