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Disqo said:
I was under the impression that this would be a hardcore sim game, if its of the arcade variety, I think I will give it a miss.
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Its certainly got sim elements and a nice bit of depth with the different things you can do on the car.

Driving model just isnt as tricky to drive like rFactor.
 
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bsmaff said:
Can I ask what F1 games you have played in the past?
Too hear this game is brilliant I just cant take that in.
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When pboreham says he loves a racing game, I always know that it's a definite shitter :BOP:

There's no way I want a full on F1 sim as it would be too frustrating and time consuming to learn, but what's even more certain is that there's no way Codemsaters are going to release a full on F1 sim on any format, let alone on a console.

The negative descriptions of bad AI, suspect damage modelling, ridiculous handling, etc, are all ringing too true, as that's exactly the same problems with all previous Codies racers I've played in the past 7 or 8 years. It makes it a very easy decision for me to not buy.
 
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Cant agree more, i love it, the skill level is such that makes it a challenge but not ball bustingly difficult. Looks stunning too. I am chuffed to bits with my purchase.
 
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winston said:
When pboreham says he loves a racing game, I always know that it's a definite shitter :BOP:

There's no way I want a full on F1 sim as it would be too frustrating and time consuming to learn, but what's even more certain is that there's no way Codemsaters are going to release a full on F1 sim on any format, let alone on a console.

The negative descriptions of bad AI, suspect damage modelling, ridiculous handling, etc, are all ringing too true, as that's exactly the same problems with all previous Codies racers I've played in the past 7 or 8 years. It makes it a very easy decision for me to not buy.
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Ha! Was waiting for that comment, disappointed with Evo Web that it took so long :D
 
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I am seeing mixed views on the A.I on neogaf. Some people say it is too easy even on expert while others are saying even on pro they are finding it hard.

How you guys finding it? Does a lotus car feel slower than Mclaren?
 
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kobashi said:
I am seeing mixed views on the A.I on neogaf. Some people say it is too easy even on expert while others are saying even on pro they are finding it hard.

How you guys finding it? Does a lotus car feel slower than Mclaren?
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I'm in a Lotus at the moment in career and certainly cannot compete with the mid range cars. Qualified 18th (pro mode, auto box, other assists off) and finished race 22nd.

Came out of pit stop just behind De La Rosa and had a brilliant 3 lap scrap, really on the limit and I still couldnt get near enough to get past him - which I love. Most games you can easily outbrake the AI into a corner and get past, or they just disappear into the distance - but this we were about the same time apart (about .7sec - 1sec) for the 3 laps...
 
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had a quick blast tonight, Multiplayer was a bit lonely with just 11 on the track and after the 1st lap everyone gets spaced out plus ppl quitting at the back. 1st corners are usually total carnage.

Need some serious screen time to get my career mode going, at Virgin and struggling near the back (as it should be!). In casual races the AI are strange, I see the back end slipping away into corners but at the same time you can have some good scraps with those in and around you.

Graphics are lush but still abit like a modern day Codies race sim elsewhere, now TOCA 1/2 on PSOne - that was a helluva driving sim!
 
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Kenny G said:
had a quick blast tonight, Multiplayer was a bit lonely with just 11 on the track and after the 1st lap everyone gets spaced out plus ppl quitting at the back. 1st corners are usually total carnage.

Need some serious screen time to get my career mode going, at Virgin and struggling near the back (as it should be!). In casual races the AI are strange, I see the back end slipping away into corners but at the same time you can have some good scraps with those in and around you.

Graphics are lush but still abit like a modern day Codies race sim elsewhere, now TOCA 1/2 on PSOne - that was a helluva driving sim!
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Did you get it on ps3 or pc?
 
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Wow! Played a bit more last night and then this morning and it just gets better. Very much 'on the edge of sim' is how I would describe it to, once you turn the aids off.

Had a race this morning (I'm at lotus) at Melbourne, one of my favourite tracks to drive due to the amount of times I drove it in gp3 and qualified 18th (they wanted 20) so that was good, though I felt I could have gone a bit faster, it's not worth it with the lower teams.

Then in the race (12 laps, aids off except auto gears and suggested braking in corners) I really held my own. As I said yesterday, I love the fact that you really have to fight hard to catch anyone let alone take them. You can spend many laps just sitting the same distance behind a car, which really makes you push.

Anyways, stayed in front of trulli the whole race, only a few minor episodes that I managed to snatch back and stay out of the walls and a clean stop. Came out the pits on lap 8 in 17th behind de la Rosa and chased him down before the end of the lap. The difference in tyres was amazing and I felt I could push a lot harder. Up the field were a group of 3 cars, eventually caught them and got past one, but then was sat chasing hulkenberg for 3 laps which was brilliant. He didn't make a mistake though and I couldn't catch him. Finished 15th and it felt like a massive achievement, even got me pumping my arms in my seat! Really felt like I drove well and the wheel really helps that immersion. I was pleased to see my dude pump his fists in the car too, which considering I finished down the field was a nice touch to show that the game feels you did a good job.

Only disappointing thing is it's a bit of a damp squib after the race, no engineers message, no interviews and no comments from the agent or team. Still, it got me loads of xp and sure behind the scenes it will put my player in a better place to switch teams.

Great game and as I said, not really deserving of it's 'arcade' tag in the slightest, at the higher levels, it really is seat of the pants stuff. One wheel over the wrong bit of kerbing and you are toast.
 
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Enjoying the game, never driven an F1 car, so I won't call it 'Arcade-y'. I'm finding it challenging enough on professional though, but maybe I'm just a bad driver. I've had to put in the laps on the practice sessions finding the right setup or I'll fail miserably in the qualifying/race.

But one of the main disappointments for me is the lack of broadcasting style, would love it to look like the BBC F1 coverage. The Codemasters Grid/Dirt style menus and on-screen info doesn't really have the F1 feel.
 
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From reading various forums, the general impression I get is that if you're an rFactor/iRacing nut who is (for some oddly optimistic reason) expecting the simmiest sim of all sims ever, it might not match your high standards of ultra realism (in front of your tv, having never sat in a real F1 car). But if you're after a fun driving game and like F1, early impressions sound very positive.

Getting my 360 copy today.
 
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nerf said:
From reading various forums, the general impression I get is that if you're an rFactor/iRacing nut who is (for some oddly optimistic reason) expecting the simmiest sim of all sims ever, it might not match your high standards of ultra realism (in front of your tv, having never sat in a real F1 car). But if you're after a fun driving game and like F1, early impressions sound very positive.

Getting my 360 copy today.
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Thats actually well said m8... Now that i got the sim "needing" out of my head im actually enjoying the game very much.
 
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Reading about some pretty nasty flaws.

Some AI cars don't do their compulsory pits stops, so unfairly beat you.

AI cars not affected by fuel load during race, but you are, so they are much faster (unless you turn off fule load simulation).

Worst of all, very obvious AI rubber-banding.

Ugh.
 
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winston said:
Reading about some pretty nasty flaws.

Some AI cars don't do their compulsory pits stops, so unfairly beat you.

AI cars not affected by fuel load during race, but you are, so they are much faster (unless you turn off fule load simulation).

Worst of all, very obvious AI rubber-banding.

Ugh.
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Rubber-banding in this day and age.

Thats some BS right there and not good!! I took my copy back today and got refund from Game as I heard too much negativity.
 
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kobashi said:
I took my copy back today and got refund from Game as I heard too much negativity.
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Heard? Why not play it for yourself? You might like it...

Winston, no offence, but I do start to wonder if you've ever played a game in which you didn't believe you were getting screwed over by the CPU :P
 
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I'm actually suck at this game without brake help :( I can't set
a time in Q1 because in every round I touch the grass a little bit
and the lap is invalid. If I stay away from the grass, I can't finish
the corner and get again invalid lap.
 
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nerf said:
Winston, no offence, but I do start to wonder if you've ever played a game in which you didn't believe you were getting screwed over by the CPU :P
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I've not played the game. The F1 comments are from numerous people in numerous forums. But Codies have always used rubber-banding, and used to admit it. They are now more reluctant to admit to it because it's so cheap. They make arcade games, so their poor AI fits that type of game. The fact there are bugs like some AI not making compulsory pit stops is hardly a surprise given the rush they had to get the game out.

The only games where I complain about cpu cheats are PES (Seabass has amitted to it) and FIFA, which clearly just copied all the same PES cheats, just like it copied many of its ideas from PES. I wouldn't even argue with someone about whether FIFA has cpu cheats, it's so obvious.

The only other games I've played in recent years have been PC racing sims. There's an honesty about the AI in them, albeit the AI required probably isn't nearly as complex as trying to code up 22 players interacting on a football pitch, chasing a ball, conforming to tactics, and somehow make it all hold together, seem vaguely realistc, fun to play whilst challenging to the player.
 
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nerf said:
Heard? Why not play it for yourself? You might like it...

Winston, no offence, but I do start to wonder if you've ever played a game in which you didn't believe you were getting screwed over by the CPU :P
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because if i opened the sealing that as my £40 down the drain mate.
 
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Opinions are ranging from very positive to very negative...

Doesn't sound like a game to be played on a controller though, and I don't have a wheel so may pick it up at some point in the futute.
 
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Game is amazing you are on the edge during every lap. And for all the sim snobs the game made me do 15 laps of Monaco in the rain i challenge anyone to try that.
 
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So the game is either "amazing" or "rubbish" really, nobody's said it's alright yet.

From what I can remember, and I haven't looked back through this thread, but I'm sure that it was expected that the game WOULD be a sim and was intended to be a sim by Codemasters. So I can understand why people are very disappointed in it, if any racing game would be better as a sim then it's F1.
 
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I think Codies have struck the right balance between sim and arcade, at the end of the day there was no way they were going to be able to release a mainstream F1 racer that was too sim as at the end of the day its all about the sales figures. Into the 4th race of my career had a great race at China last night. I was sitting in 19th with a couple of laps to go trying to catch one of the Lotus's and it started to rain, luckily it wasn't too heavy but come the end of the race I ended up 24th due a 10 second penalty for an incident earlier in the race.

I have Rfactor and love it to bits but after 3 years its nice a pick up a racing game again thats good to go out of the box, not in need of tweak after tweak in Notepad to make it right.
 
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Played in my racing chair and wheel yesterday and I it's pretty good! Pretty good depth! I stuck it on easy mode seeing as I don't play racing games, and this is the first F1 game I've played. The career mode seems pretty realistic in terms of what you do etc. I just did practice for 30 mins in Bahrain and loved it. I think I posted a 2:07 lap time which would put me 11th on the grid.

Looking forward to playing some more :)).
 
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I like this game, I don't really play racing games so this suits me fine.

However, is there a pit stop bug? In career mode (20% race) I managed to into 11th spot racing at Melbourne, consistently putting in laps of 1.37, however I pitted on lap 9. came back out and was 24th! At the end of the race, checked and some cars hadn't pitted, it was a dry race you have to change tyres once.

Am I doing something wrong?
 
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kamy100 said:
I like this game, I don't really play racing games so this suits me fine.

However, is there a pit stop bug? In career mode (20% race) I managed to into 11th spot racing at Melbourne, consistently putting in laps of 1.37, however I pitted on lap 9. came back out and was 24th! At the end of the race, checked and some cars hadn't pitted, it was a dry race you have to change tyres once.

Am I doing something wrong?
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See my post above

AI cars not doing compulsory pit stops is something you would hope they would patch (although Codies record of patching is poor).

However, the rubber banding (which is a particular problem in this game with the way it ties in with pit stops) is probably more fundamental to the design of the AI performance, so doubt there's much chance of that being fixed.
 
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My mate bought it yesterday whilst we were in town, so I went back to his to play it for a bit.

Only did a few laps each and decided we'd rather play something else.

Did a 2:02 at Bahrain on my first lap in wet conditions with all aids and stuff like that off. Seemed like there was way too much grip.

Other downsides include the fact it not only looks shite compared to GRID and DIRT/2, but doesn't look anywhere near as good (or play as good) as F1:CE which came out in what? 2007? I wish I'dve never sold that game.

The menu/paddock system is just needless and damn annoying to be honest, not to mention the paddock part looks like a PS2 game with awful looking people and so on.

I might pick it up cheap eventually to play multiplayer with my friends, but it's a massive disappointment for me in the short time I've played it.
 
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This pit stop bug seems to be a real show stopper in career mode, next two races, battled to 10th, pitted and drop down to 24th, some of the AI does not pit at all (dry conditions again). Can't believe that this got through their QA. Needs to be patched.
 
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Just make sure you adjust your pit stop strategy before a race when u think noone else will pit. If u pit when its busy they dont release you until theres no cars coming down the pit lane and a normal 5-7 secs ends up being 20 secs.
 
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