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Was it me, or did Carrick seem to being going forward alot more with Fletcher than with Scholes.
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I guess thats natural for him to do that since Fletcher is more willing to hold back compared to Scholes.
 
As you lot already know,I am a massive Michael Carrick fan.I was ecstatic when we got him.Didnt care about his price tag because I truly believe he will improve us.He has been the difference from last season really apart from Ronaldo.He is the modern midfielder,the deep laying playmaker with the ability to attack and defend if needed.
 
I skipped like 5 pages, but anyway I'm back from my travels.

Good job by United. Easily dissembled Roma. Ronaldo is starting to prove his doubters wrong.

Thought Roma were very stupid last night, especially Spalletti. I know hes a big fan of entertaining attacking football, but his formation and strategy was very dumb. Perrotta, a defensive minded player was suspended for the game... so he puts Taddei.. who is a very attacking minded winger. Taddei was injured so instead Spalletti starts the game with VUCINIC.. Roma's only striker to play the role of center mid. Spalletti also decides to play with 4 offensive players, leaving only De Rossi as a holding defensive player. In defense, Spalletti plays 2 attacking wingbacks, therefore giving his team 3 strong defensive players against a team composed of Giggs, Rooney and Ronaldo.

I'd say it was lack of experience since both Spalletti and Roma have never been this far in many many years.

Nice goals by Carrick and De Rossi though.
 
Milanista said:
I skipped like 5 pages, but anyway I'm back from my travels.

Good job by United. Easily dissembled Roma. Ronaldo is starting to prove his doubters wrong.

Thought Roma were very stupid last night, especially Spalletti. I know hes a big fan of entertaining attacking football, but his formation and strategy was very dumb. Perrotta, a defensive minded player was suspended for the game... so he puts Taddei.. who is a very attacking minded winger. Taddei was injured so instead Spalletti starts the game with VUCINIC.. Roma's only striker to play the role of center mid. Spalletti also decides to play with 4 offensive players, leaving only De Rossi as a holding defensive player. In defense, Spalletti plays 2 attacking wingbacks, therefore giving his team 3 strong defensive players against a team composed of Giggs, Rooney and Ronaldo.

I'd say it was lack of experience since both Spalletti and Roma have never been this far in many many years.

Nice goals by Carrick and De Rossi though.
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I would think this was the biggest part of last nights result favouring United. I still think it was excellent football from United and showed their ability to create chances but still you have to wonder how a team like Roma, second in Serie A(albeit a weaker league but its still a good league) could lose so much to any team in Europe even if it was an away game. Some teams have problems going away in Europe, they think they can play their own game away when in reality they need not worry as much about their own style but the other teams and how well it can be countered. I still think they lack serious attacking problems anyway as Vucinic is not enough to carry the team forward.
 
Nice post Milanista.
Spalletti also was watching most of time and didn't make any changes.
 
Milanista said:
I skipped like 5 pages, but anyway I'm back from my travels.

Good job by United. Easily dissembled Roma. Ronaldo is starting to prove his doubters wrong.

Thought Roma were very stupid last night, especially Spalletti. I know hes a big fan of entertaining attacking football, but his formation and strategy was very dumb. Perrotta, a defensive minded player was suspended for the game... so he puts Taddei.. who is a very attacking minded winger. Taddei was injured so instead Spalletti starts the game with VUCINIC.. Roma's only striker to play the role of center mid. Spalletti also decides to play with 4 offensive players, leaving only De Rossi as a holding defensive player. In defense, Spalletti plays 2 attacking wingbacks, therefore giving his team 3 strong defensive players against a team composed of Giggs, Rooney and Ronaldo.

I'd say it was lack of experience since both Spalletti and Roma have never been this far in many many years.

Nice goals by Carrick and De Rossi though.
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mate, spalletti hadn't any choice...
just consider that he had 3 primavera players in th bench (primavera is the youth team).
i, mean even rosi played yesterday...... and rosi usually plays with the youth team.
with, tonetto, perrotta,aquilani, taddei out and totti almost injured..... what can u do?
and btw, when it happens what happened yesterday, there's really nothing to do. roma players (almost all) were absolutely unfocused, totally astonished. never saw them playing like that before...
on the other side, man utd players were cool, highly motivated, focused, with a perfect tactical disposition.
match like theese happen one in 20 years for a team, but when it happens, there's nothing that a coach can do to "calm down" his players, to avoid them getting involved by their "emotional side".
once i wrote in the serie a thread that the reason why roma couldn't win serie a this year is that they haven't enough players, they almost have no subs.
 
lo zio said:
mate, spalletti hadn't any choice...
just consider that he had 3 primavera players in th bench (primavera is the youth team).
i, mean even rosi played yesterday...... and rosi usually plays with the youth team.
with, tonetto, perrotta,aquilani, taddei out and totti almost injured..... what can u do?
and btw, when it happens what happened yesterday, there's really nothing to do. roma players (almost all) were absolutely unfocused, totally astonished. never saw them playing like that before...
on the other side, man utd players were cool, highly motivated, focused, with a perfect tactical disposition.
match like theese happen one in 20 years for a team, but when it happens, there's nothing that a coach can do to "calm down" his players, to avoid them getting involved by their "emotional side".
once i wrote in the serie a thread that the reason why roma couldn't win serie a this year is that they haven't enough players, they almost have no subs.
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yeah but the same can be said for united....

no neville, vidic, scholes, saha, oshea should be in the youth team hahahaahah
 
I've seen the likes of Rosi and Okaka on the bench more than a few times both this season and last.
 
csaunders said:
yeah but the same can be said for united....
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of course mate, i didn't mean to say that man utd had an advantage, talking about injuries.

i was just saying to Milanista that, even when he saw how bad roma was playin, Spalletti couldn't do almost anything to change the situation, as he hadn't any subs, that's all :)


I've seen the likes of Rosi and Okaka on the bench more than a few times both this season and last.
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it depends by what u mean when u say "more than a few", mate. most of the times they play with the youth team. and the reason why sometimes they played with the first team is just coz spalletti hasn't many alternatives ;)
if i do remember well okaka played just 2 matches with the first team in the last 2 years (1 this year, 1 last year); rosi played a little more than okaka, but he's still a youth team player, and he has been called just when spalletti hadn't any other choices.

once again: by saying this i don't mean to "steal merits" from manchester, which played a hell of a match yesterday.. i'm just trying to explain why spalletti chose that weird starting formation and why he couldn't change anything during the match. :)
 
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Cloud1863 said:
I would think this was the biggest part of last nights result favouring United. I still think it was excellent football from United and showed their ability to create chances but still you have to wonder how a team like Roma, second in Serie A(albeit a weaker league but its still a good league) could lose so much to any team in Europe even if it was an away game. Some teams have problems going away in Europe, they think they can play their own game away when in reality they need not worry as much about their own style but the other teams and how well it can be countered. I still think they lack serious attacking problems anyway as Vucinic is not enough to carry the team forward.
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Sorry :mrgreen: Meant to say United completely outplayed Roma.
 
Well here we go. I have to be honest and say I wanted this tie so much. I think both games will be classics.

The benefit of playing Man Utd away first is huge. Id hate to have a slender lead travelling back to Old Trafford, especially watching how they dismantled Roma. But anyone who knows their footy will admit Roma were shocking and Man Utd played out of there skin. That certianly wasnt the same Roma that beat them in Rome, or the one playing excellently in the league.

I'd like to get everyones predictions on this. I certainly see Milan going through over the two legs, but how do you think it will go?

With Man Utd at home first Im sure they will concentrate on not conceding an away goal, which benefits us. I cant wait to see Gattuso, Pirlo, Kaka and Seedorf go up against Ronaldo, Scholes, Carrick and Giggs. Two teams with an unbelieveable midfield, but totally different advantages.

IMO Ronaldo will be key. Hes quite easily the best player in the world right now, and will have loads of room on the wing regarding the way Milan play. If hes plays out of this world (as ususal) then Man Utd will take it. BUT if Milan play the way they did against Munich I can see us taking an away lead to the San Siro.

One things for sure, Utd wont get nowhere near the amount of space they did against Roma. Please Dida, no more Howlers!
 
You seriously believe that Milan is better than United this season? I admit that the last time we met Milan in the CL,we were weaker.

Ronaldo and Rooney were over-rawed by the occasion and we didnt have Carrick in the middle.I believe our attack is too fast for your backline this time round.Your midfield is as good as ours if not better but we can bypass them through wingplay.We know the fact that Italian teams hate to run and we have got the players to make you run and chase.

The last time United won the CL,we faced a strong Juve side,at home first then away.We emerged victorious for those who forgot.This time round,we face Milan,at home first then away too.Similar ties dont you think? Ironically,Filippo Inzaghi was playing for Juve then and Milan now.Same story,different cast(Inzaghi excluded) and hopefully the same outcome. C'mon United.
 
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The last time United played Milan, United were on a 9 game winning streak where as we had just lost Shevchenko to injury and we were going through a rough patch.

But trust me, domestic form will count for nothing at this stage of the CL.
 
Milanista said:
The last time United played Milan, United were on a 9 game winning streak where as we had just lost Shevchenko to injury and we were going through a rough patch.

But trust me, domestic form will count for nothing at this stage of the CL.
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Untied were rubbish last time against Milan. Partly cause Ruud had just come back (rushed back) and everyone put the weight of the team on him. No one else looked like scoring (Giggsy hit the post) and there were virtually no chances for either team.

Should be an interesting tie, I think a whole lot will come down to who scores first. I'm not sure United have enough to overcome a deficit heading to the San Siro, nor do I think Milan have a huge comeback in them. Looking forward to it!
 
As for predictions, not sure actually. If they can stop ronaldo at OT then i think milan might just edge it at home with a 0-0/ draw score at OT. Otherwise i think it could be a 2-0 win at OT and then maybe a 1-1 at san siro. Too tight to call tbh
 
I so hope its a Man U v Chelsea final.... that would be something else! the FA Cup Final will probably be us and Chelsea so just think if we have to beat them in all 3 to win them!!!

Dj
 
I think Milan can win this, they have great experience and will try and control the game. United get frustrated when they cant get the ball because they like to play fast attacking football all thetime. In my opinion thats why United have failed a lot in europe, when you need to adapt your style of play they have been found wanting, but more suited to the fast paced prem. Vice versa can be said of us, we play very european in the prem but can struggle, but seem to do things with ease in europe.

I think this is a stern test for United. Kaka will be a handful, as much as Ronaldo and more importnatly Milan can DEFEND.
 
No suprise that real madrid are sniffing around Ronaldo again, after what happened last summer its inevitable that the lads future lies in spain, I've got no problem with that, he's been with us for four years...

What im pissed off about is madrids tactics in these high profile transfers, the self-styled "greatest club in the world" have a history in this dept, for unsettling players and basically tarting themselves about..

but it makes me wonder if they are as great as they tell the world, why do they have go to such lengths, surely they should just be able to snap their fingers, but no they have to play silly games in the media, show no respect to the club they wish to do business with, pay silly transfer fees and silly wages..

Also, when was the last time they discovered a player before he was already a world star??
 
I think pool have been significantly better over the past few weeks than Chelsea, but regardless Mourinho seems to always find a way to pull it out. So should be very interesting.
 
Vannizzlefashizzal said:
No suprise that real madrid are sniffing around Ronaldo again, after what happened last summer its inevitable that the lads future lies in spain, I've got no problem with that, he's been with us for four years...

What im pissed off about is madrids tactics in these high profile transfers, the self-styled "greatest club in the world" have a history in this dept, for unsettling players and basically tarting themselves about..

but it makes me wonder if they are as great as they tell the world, why do they have go to such lengths, surely they should just be able to snap their fingers, but no they have to play silly games in the media, show no respect to the club they wish to do business with, pay silly transfer fees and silly wages..

Also, when was the last time they discovered a player before he was already a world star??
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More importantly, other than their name and history and weather, there's no reason for ronnie to go there. United play better football, are more successful this season, IMO have a better team going forward and Ronaldo will have to be back with Ruud. Not exactly a great fit is it? No doubt he'll go one day, and just maybe if united win a treble he'll leave (feeling accomplished) but otherwise I just don't see the incentive.
 
beachryan said:
More importantly, other than their name and history and weather, there's no reason for ronnie to go there. United play better football, are more successful this season, IMO have a better team going forward and Ronaldo will have to be back with Ruud. Not exactly a great fit is it? No doubt he'll go one day, and just maybe if united win a treble he'll leave (feeling accomplished) but otherwise I just don't see the incentive.
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we've been more successful than them in the past few seasons by just winning a couple of domestic cups...

it could just be the agent, cos obviously he will get a chunk of the £54mill and madrid will have to pay him £140K a week...

Like I said if he wants to go then sweet, we know that we have produced yet another world superstar and will no doubt do it again, im just waiting for the day that a player or a club tell madrid to go stick the money up their arse!
 
Fuck Madrid and their agents!

Ronny will stay (unless we win everything this season then he'll go.)
 
guys, may i suggest u something?

never believe spanish sporty newspapers! (as, marca......)

if spanish press writes that c. ronaldo will join real, then u can be sure that ronaldo will stay at manchester;)
 
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