Its getting ridiculous with the headers.
The one that made me chuckle was he thought the tackle was coming and one of our players pulled out and he went down only to realise their was no challenge and got up to chase the ball.
Keith Harris (of the Red Knights) is still trying to convince supporters to give up their season tickets.
It's a nice idea, but you wouldn't be guaranteed to get it back if it worked, as there's probably a huge amount of people who'd gladly take it up.
Makes you wonder if it's a ploy to try and buy the club at a lower cost...
Meanwhile, the MUST group have over 53000 members now, and are working with an agency that worked on Obama's presidential campaign, as they step up attempts to get rid of the Glazers...
the glazers delisted the company as soon as they got in, so a hostile takeover is no longer possible...... unless by "hostile takeover" u mean pointing a gun at their heads or making them "an offer they can't refuse" a la michael corleonejamesy said:
...i'm afraid mate having millions of fans isn't gonna stop the banks from getting back their money..... multinational millionaire companies sunk for a lot less than what united is going through..... the banks would litterally tread upon the fans in order to get the money.... entire governments and countries have been tore apart by banks for a single cross default.... nevermind a few millions of harmless fans.runedge said:
to be honest there's not much fans can do (although i admire your commitment).... a mass boycott strategy would be extremely hard to set up and even if u would manage to achieve such an amazing logistic feat, u wouldn't really put that much pressure on the glazers...... the key factor here is the banks attitude.younggun said:
Thats not what I mean. I meant that if fans around the world knew we were in financial danger, theres probably enough fans out there that would "do their bit" to help the club by spending more. I could be wrong.
as for your second point, even though this whole red knights thing sounds a bit shady to me too..... they're still more "serious" than a hypothetical "new roman abramovich"....
besides it's extremely unlikely to see a roman abramovich or a sheikh popping out of the blue..... as rich as a millionaire can be, no one would burn +600 millions on a company that (at the moment) has no profitability at all....that's just not possible.... i mean roman abramovich himself didn't actually put that much cash when he took over (as he used a leveraged buyout aswell).... an hypothetical buyer now, not only couldn't use such a financial tool to get the company without spending his own money..... he should also financially restore the company by paying debts for +600 millions!! that's just not gonna happen.... no one would ever burn (that's not "investing"..... paying other people's debts is "burning" money) such a huge amount of cash on a football club. there would NEVER be any sort of return on investment, and that makes this situation absolutely impossible to occur.
so the only possible buyer would be a group.... and a big one (to distribuite the investment over many people and decrease the individual loss of each of them), of english millionaires..... they have to be english coz just someone who feels a strong bond with the club would ever be so masochist to take care of man utd's overdraft (from a financial point of view, buying man utd right now is a suicide.... there are no valid business reasons to do it.... so there must be some "passion" involved, if u know what i mean).
forget it mate.... it's 716 millions overdraft we're talking about here (and more than 1 billion to get the whole club)... maybe, if man utd fans were 1\6 of the entire world population u could do something about it....runedge said:
mate it's way more complicated than this..... and investing +1 billions euros on a company which as 716 millions debt (that's the figure i heard) doesn't sound like a great idea..... it could never sound like a great idea.... no matter how we put it, this is a huge loss... the best outlook is to hope for a return on investment in, say, 5, 6 years..... it's hard to imagine a worse way to invest your money. and mate, being a millionaire doesn't mean u don't care about profits... quite the opposite actually.runedge said:
well "profits" equals to incomes minus outflow (expenses, contracts, taxes, amortation, interests over debts).... so even though u're still making a lot of money that doesn't make u a profitable company coz your outflow is more substantial than your incomes.runedge said:
