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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
And you say that me and Rich are obsessed with 'pool...
And you say that me and Rich are obsessed with 'pool...
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RuneEdge
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Again this is just an example of just one of the negatives in football that only gets highlighted when its a high profile name involved. He's not the only manager with "double standards" but cuz its Sir Alex, people will bash him. Eduardo wasnt the only diver but his dive will also be highlighted because of who he plays for and who it was against.
If this was a last minute goal to make the tie 1-0, and against a team like Wigan or Stoke, it probably wouldnt have been as big of an issue. But cuz its at the end of a 3-3 thriller, against a top four contender, and against a local rival, I can see why it would bother people more. But to me this is no different to how Chelsea would have felt robbed against Barca last year or (going back even further) even the Gerrard dive against Milan in Istanbul to get the penalty to get Liverpool back into the game.
Same crime but the occasion makes it seem worse. I'm not trying to stick up for Sir Alex (or maybe I indirectly am, I dunno), but if you had a problem with what happened, stuff like that should have been dealt with a long time ago before it became a problem in a more important game.
If this had happened against us, sure I'd be a bit pissed off to say the least but I wouldnt go on about it like the rest of you are. I just accept thats life and get on with it. I'm pretty sure all 19 other Premiership managers would have taken that win no matter how unfair they thought it was.
Again this is just an example of just one of the negatives in football that only gets highlighted when its a high profile name involved. He's not the only manager with "double standards" but cuz its Sir Alex, people will bash him. Eduardo wasnt the only diver but his dive will also be highlighted because of who he plays for and who it was against.
If this was a last minute goal to make the tie 1-0, and against a team like Wigan or Stoke, it probably wouldnt have been as big of an issue. But cuz its at the end of a 3-3 thriller, against a top four contender, and against a local rival, I can see why it would bother people more. But to me this is no different to how Chelsea would have felt robbed against Barca last year or (going back even further) even the Gerrard dive against Milan in Istanbul to get the penalty to get Liverpool back into the game.
Same crime but the occasion makes it seem worse. I'm not trying to stick up for Sir Alex (or maybe I indirectly am, I dunno), but if you had a problem with what happened, stuff like that should have been dealt with a long time ago before it became a problem in a more important game.
If this had happened against us, sure I'd be a bit pissed off to say the least but I wouldnt go on about it like the rest of you are. I just accept thats life and get on with it. I'm pretty sure all 19 other Premiership managers would have taken that win no matter how unfair they thought it was.
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Don't worry, Sparky's big (and no longer reputable) mouth has gotten Gary Neville in trouble.
I mean the gall of the Neviller, celebrating hysterically and running around. Didn't he learn from his utterly ridiculous fine from when we won at Anfield a few years back?
The beauty of it is that I think the outcome is that Adebayor will get off on his charge (for deliberately running the length of the pitch and then having to be dragged away from the slowly growing riot he started) whereas Gary Neville will have his charge upheld for running along the touchline frantically with a last second 4-3 derby win.
And then the ABU's will be out telling us that it's only because we're United they didn't also ban Evra for 4 games.
It's a bit like the EXCLUSIVE AMAZING INCREDIBLE article on how there have been about 60 seconds more added time at OT over the past 3 years when United are losing/drawing as opposed to winning. Now if you weren't a *spit* 'journalist' you'd know that this stat would only be interesting if you then compared it to all other teams. But hey, let's make it sensational, let's just ignore that let's just get it out there UNITED CHEAT TO WIN TITLES!!! PROOF INSIDE!
Don't worry, Sparky's big (and no longer reputable) mouth has gotten Gary Neville in trouble.
I mean the gall of the Neviller, celebrating hysterically and running around. Didn't he learn from his utterly ridiculous fine from when we won at Anfield a few years back?
The beauty of it is that I think the outcome is that Adebayor will get off on his charge (for deliberately running the length of the pitch and then having to be dragged away from the slowly growing riot he started) whereas Gary Neville will have his charge upheld for running along the touchline frantically with a last second 4-3 derby win.
And then the ABU's will be out telling us that it's only because we're United they didn't also ban Evra for 4 games.
It's a bit like the EXCLUSIVE AMAZING INCREDIBLE article on how there have been about 60 seconds more added time at OT over the past 3 years when United are losing/drawing as opposed to winning. Now if you weren't a *spit* 'journalist' you'd know that this stat would only be interesting if you then compared it to all other teams. But hey, let's make it sensational, let's just ignore that let's just get it out there UNITED CHEAT TO WIN TITLES!!! PROOF INSIDE!
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Carling Cup next. With the loss of players like Ronaldo and Tevez, is it worth risking big players for this competition or should we go back to fielding reserves and under 21s? I thought the teams we fielded last year were quite strong but we were a little unfortunate and *coughberbafuckedupcough*. But we dont have the luxury of doing that anymore IMO, especially since we cant kill off teams in the Premier League like we used to be able to.
This'll be the perfect stage for Owen to prove a point though. That last goal will have him on a high and with Berba missing some great chances (after all the great service from Giggs, one of his best games in a while IMO), I think if Owen gets a goal or two, he'll play a much bigger part in the next league tie.
Carling Cup next. With the loss of players like Ronaldo and Tevez, is it worth risking big players for this competition or should we go back to fielding reserves and under 21s? I thought the teams we fielded last year were quite strong but we were a little unfortunate and *coughberbafuckedupcough*. But we dont have the luxury of doing that anymore IMO, especially since we cant kill off teams in the Premier League like we used to be able to.
This'll be the perfect stage for Owen to prove a point though. That last goal will have him on a high and with Berba missing some great chances (after all the great service from Giggs, one of his best games in a while IMO), I think if Owen gets a goal or two, he'll play a much bigger part in the next league tie.
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I'm really hoping we play a 442 with our reserves, so they start to be able to slot right in:
----------Kuszcak------------
-DeLaet-Catchcart-Evans-Fabio
------Gibson--Carrick--------
-Nani--------------Tosic-----
-------Welbeck-Macheda-------
Carrick and Nani in there to get a game, rest to see if they can cut it!
(that said, i think Fergie will use a mix of experience, with Owen, Nani, Valencia, Carrick and Rio to get a run out)
I'm really hoping we play a 442 with our reserves, so they start to be able to slot right in:
----------Kuszcak------------
-DeLaet-Catchcart-Evans-Fabio
------Gibson--Carrick--------
-Nani--------------Tosic-----
-------Welbeck-Macheda-------
Carrick and Nani in there to get a game, rest to see if they can cut it!
(that said, i think Fergie will use a mix of experience, with Owen, Nani, Valencia, Carrick and Rio to get a run out)
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Where were those 2 posts i remember in pre-season?.. Here they are.
My 2 cents about the win against City.
You won but you never sustained the lead. If the match had more time i think you would end up letting them draw.
Where were those 2 posts i remember in pre-season?.. Here they are.
We have the best defence in Europe, That should be the least of our worries. Welbeck is a much better prospect than Macheda IMO Matherto, He has so much ability. Pace, Dribbling, Touch he has it all. Macheda's an out and out striker. bit like comparing Henry and Ruud.
My 2 cents about the win against City.
You won but you never sustained the lead. If the match had more time i think you would end up letting them draw.
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The problem at the moment is we don't have our first defense. There aren't many teams in world football that would play worse with only 2 fully fit members of their back 5.
With games under their belt, I still believe that:
---------VDS--------
-Brown-Rio-Vida-Evra-
Is one of the best back 5's in the world, defensively. I mean, who is better?
(and for the record, only conceeding 3 when you're playing O'Shea, Foster and a half-fit Rio seems pretty good to me, especially when you decide to give them 2 as a headstart)
The problem at the moment is we don't have our first defense. There aren't many teams in world football that would play worse with only 2 fully fit members of their back 5.
With games under their belt, I still believe that:
---------VDS--------
-Brown-Rio-Vida-Evra-
Is one of the best back 5's in the world, defensively. I mean, who is better?
(and for the record, only conceeding 3 when you're playing O'Shea, Foster and a half-fit Rio seems pretty good to me, especially when you decide to give them 2 as a headstart)
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
I'd go for that too. Except with Owen in there somewhere.
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Here are quotes from Cuntlitos Tevez taken from TeamTalk.com
"I must admit I did believe I would get a different reception from the United supporters.Initially everything was positive and I was greeted by my former team-mates and United staff without any problems at all.But as soon as I entered the field the atmosphere was very different. It was hard to take because previously I was always wanted by those people."
IS HE DUMB OR SOMETHING?
Here are quotes from Cuntlitos Tevez taken from TeamTalk.com
"I must admit I did believe I would get a different reception from the United supporters.Initially everything was positive and I was greeted by my former team-mates and United staff without any problems at all.But as soon as I entered the field the atmosphere was very different. It was hard to take because previously I was always wanted by those people."
IS HE DUMB OR SOMETHING?
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Yes. He is not the sharpest tool in shed.
Regardless, I thought it was a bit tough on him yesterday. He didn't celebrate the goals, was friendly throughout and even tried to applaud the Stretty end. He was taken on a loop by his advisors, but is still the same hardworking lil Argentine (with limited ability) that we knew and loved.
I wouldn't boo him.
Yes. He is not the sharpest tool in shed.
Regardless, I thought it was a bit tough on him yesterday. He didn't celebrate the goals, was friendly throughout and even tried to applaud the Stretty end. He was taken on a loop by his advisors, but is still the same hardworking lil Argentine (with limited ability) that we knew and loved.
I wouldn't boo him.
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Thats a decent team, but cathcart has been loaned out and welbeck has spent alot of time away with england U19 so is abit behind the rest...
i'd like to see brown get some minutes,
also berba and owen (especially berba) need goals so either could figure..
Thats a decent team, but cathcart has been loaned out and welbeck has spent alot of time away with england U19 so is abit behind the rest...
i'd like to see brown get some minutes,
also berba and owen (especially berba) need goals so either could figure..
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That Kia guy seems like a very shady character...
I'm starting to think more and more that he's just being used a puppet by his advisors. I think his associates might have just fabricated most of those quotes about him criticising Fergie as a way of forcing him out of the club.
That Kia guy seems like a very shady character...
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After the arsenal, spurs and a trip to turkey I thought a 4th win on the trot was abit too much to ask..
but I could'nt have asked for the way it turned out, it was too perfect...
utd legend returning as city manager with alot to prove...
the fact that the overpriced £25mill+ "cunty carlos" missed a sitter...
AND made a mistake in the build up to the winning goal...
and of course a goal scored at the stretford end by an ex-anfailed favourite brought to the club on a free to replace cunty...
i could'nt have made that up.
After the arsenal, spurs and a trip to turkey I thought a 4th win on the trot was abit too much to ask..
but I could'nt have asked for the way it turned out, it was too perfect...
utd legend returning as city manager with alot to prove...
the fact that the overpriced £25mill+ "cunty carlos" missed a sitter...
AND made a mistake in the build up to the winning goal...
and of course a goal scored at the stretford end by an ex-anfailed favourite brought to the club on a free to replace cunty...
i could'nt have made that up.
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Probably clutching at straws but that seems the only logical explanation for his retarded comments about his reception at OT, unless of course, he is actually plain stupid.
Probably clutching at straws but that seems the only logical explanation for his retarded comments about his reception at OT, unless of course, he is actually plain stupid.
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he was received well at west ham when he went back, he probably thought it would be the same here. in his eyes it was the club that wronged him, which makes sense if you put yourself in his shoes.
he didnt do anything wrong, he thought he deserved to play and didnt get the chance then got his contract talks stalled for someone better. i probably would have left too.
he was received well at west ham when he went back, he probably thought it would be the same here. in his eyes it was the club that wronged him, which makes sense if you put yourself in his shoes.
he didnt do anything wrong, he thought he deserved to play and didnt get the chance then got his contract talks stalled for someone better. i probably would have left too.
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Hehe, I liked the one with the balloon last year, when he was sure they'd scored and they hadn't...that was class
This is hilarious
Hehe, I liked the one with the balloon last year, when he was sure they'd scored and they hadn't...that was class
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hmm you seemed to defend Owen's actions about moving to United to....get more money, further his career and play more football at a high level.
But yet when the shoe is on the other foot, Tevez is a cunt, even though he was applauding your fans, and your staff/players seem to genuinly like the guy.
hmm you seemed to defend Owen's actions about moving to United to....get more money, further his career and play more football at a high level.
But yet when the shoe is on the other foot, Tevez is a cunt, even though he was applauding your fans, and your staff/players seem to genuinly like the guy.
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How are those two the same? The same would be if Liverpool had also put an offer on the table for Owen and he chose us over you lot for the money, whilst saying "But I didnt move to Everton out of respect for my ties with Liverpool".
How are those two the same? The same would be if Liverpool had also put an offer on the table for Owen and he chose us over you lot for the money, whilst saying "But I didnt move to Everton out of respect for my ties with Liverpool".
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i dont have a problem with him, naturally moving straight to city sort of pissed me off at first but when you look at it hes gotta think about himself and his family.
sir alex saw him as a second string player, tevez see himself as a starter and was insulted by it. that along with his contract talks i can understand him wanting to leave.
i dont have a problem with him, naturally moving straight to city sort of pissed me off at first but when you look at it hes gotta think about himself and his family.
sir alex saw him as a second string player, tevez see himself as a starter and was insulted by it. that along with his contract talks i can understand him wanting to leave.
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Tevez was a cunt in the end, trying to turn the fans against SAF, being all sour about being in a squad yet he played only less than Vidic and someone else? Owen left a relegation side for the Champions.
Tevez was a cunt in the end, trying to turn the fans against SAF, being all sour about being in a squad yet he played only less than Vidic and someone else? Owen left a relegation side for the Champions.
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especially when they are internationals. We have a similar thing going on with Babel.
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It wasn't necessarily just because he went to City. Yes, it upset the majority as they are our rivals (similar to when Sol Campbell left Spurs for Arsenal, though that was more severe as he said he was moving abroad). Though Big Pete (Schmeichel) never had the same problem when he joined them as he left on good terms.
As a person I can't fault him for going to City. Money probably was a big factor, and if someone is willing to pay it, why not?
I don't think he realised (or was misguided) about how fierce the rivalry is, especially as they are now hoping (expected?) to break into the top 4.
The thing that turned me against him, and I think a lot of fellow Reds, is that after he'd left us there was a constant stream of stories in the media of him slating us. Even several weeks after he'd moved and the hype had settled, another story would come out to stir it up again.
If he'd just moved to City, then spoke out once on his disappointment at not staying with us, I don't think he'd have gotten the reception he did at OT...
It wasn't necessarily just because he went to City. Yes, it upset the majority as they are our rivals (similar to when Sol Campbell left Spurs for Arsenal, though that was more severe as he said he was moving abroad). Though Big Pete (Schmeichel) never had the same problem when he joined them as he left on good terms.
As a person I can't fault him for going to City. Money probably was a big factor, and if someone is willing to pay it, why not?
I don't think he realised (or was misguided) about how fierce the rivalry is, especially as they are now hoping (expected?) to break into the top 4.
The thing that turned me against him, and I think a lot of fellow Reds, is that after he'd left us there was a constant stream of stories in the media of him slating us. Even several weeks after he'd moved and the hype had settled, another story would come out to stir it up again.
If he'd just moved to City, then spoke out once on his disappointment at not staying with us, I don't think he'd have gotten the reception he did at OT...
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
So Bellamy has been given a warning for hitting a fan. Once again, imagine if that was Wayne Rooney.
In all seriousness, all of those people that argue one set of rules for United, one set for everyone else - do you actually have a single example of the FA not f*cking us over? Between Rio's ban, Roon/Scholes ban from Amsterdam, Evra's random 4 match ban and now saying that celebrating a 4-3 win is the same as hitting a fan - I just don't get it. How could you possbily think that?
So Bellamy has been given a warning for hitting a fan. Once again, imagine if that was Wayne Rooney.
In all seriousness, all of those people that argue one set of rules for United, one set for everyone else - do you actually have a single example of the FA not f*cking us over? Between Rio's ban, Roon/Scholes ban from Amsterdam, Evra's random 4 match ban and now saying that celebrating a 4-3 win is the same as hitting a fan - I just don't get it. How could you possbily think that?
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They haven't punished Gary Neville either, so in a way it's worked out for us...
A mate sent me this yesterday (coverage of the game from another country) - I thought it was just us at Old Trafford who went batshit crazy when Owen scored!
Facebook Video: Owen Goal
They haven't punished Gary Neville either, so in a way it's worked out for us...
A mate sent me this yesterday (coverage of the game from another country) - I thought it was just us at Old Trafford who went batshit crazy when Owen scored!
Facebook Video: Owen Goal
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I dont think so, you've forgotten the fact he took a massive reduction in wages to sign for us!
And yes leaving a side who were relegated to play for the team who just won the league (who are also the World Champions
) is furthering Michael Owen's career and yes it will also allow him to play football at a high level... but how can you apply that to Tevez leaving us to play for a side not even in European competition?
I dont think so, you've forgotten the fact he took a massive reduction in wages to sign for us!
And yes leaving a side who were relegated to play for the team who just won the league (who are also the World Champions
) is furthering Michael Owen's career and yes it will also allow him to play football at a high level... but how can you apply that to Tevez leaving us to play for a side not even in European competition?Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
that could have been journalists sensationalizing his comments and taking them out of context. i know half a dozen articles that took snippits that made him look like shit from an interview where i could empathize with him read in its entirety.
i dont believe anything i read like that, half the time they're old interviews anyways that are just convenient to bring up because theres similar stories going around.
that could have been journalists sensationalizing his comments and taking them out of context. i know half a dozen articles that took snippits that made him look like shit from an interview where i could empathize with him read in its entirety.
i dont believe anything i read like that, half the time they're old interviews anyways that are just convenient to bring up because theres similar stories going around.