Manchester United Thread

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i think you're all over analyzing the situation, we are in a transition period. we just sold our most important player and the players replacing him are still gelling with the team.

if berba and rooney can develop their partnership (which takes time, give them a break) and nani or valencia steps up then i could see this system working as well as a couple years back when it was tevez, rooney and ronaldo.
 
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matherto said:
Actually scratch that, I wouldn't want to see our players wearing that shit.
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They steal way too many of our players. I'm almost getting used to it. We're almost like a feeder club to them.
Back when we sold Beckham, he was probably our biggest star, so was Ruud when he was sold, and now Ronaldo.
 
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Phat J 22 said:
i think you're all over analyzing the situation, we are in a transition period. we just sold our most important player and the players replacing him are still gelling with the team.

if berba and rooney can develop their partnership (which takes time, give them a break) and nani or valencia steps up then i could see this system working as well as a couple years back when it was tevez, rooney and ronaldo.
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The thing that bugs me is that we've been in a transition period before but never has the loss of some players hit us like this. And with the debt that the Glazers have on this club, we cant really afford to drop our standards.
Something needs to be done, and quick. I'm hoping the return of VDS will stabilize the defence and things will pick up from there. But until then, I cant help but worry about the state we're in.
 
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hit us like what? last time i checked we were 2 points off the top of the table, 2 and 0 in the cl and playing pretty good football. we played like shit for large parts of last season and ended up winning the league and getting to the final of the cl.

sorry man it just drives me nuts when people are negative all the time, its not so bad. we're pretty lucky to be in this situation, thats how i look at it at least. a lot fans arent so lucky to support a team like united.
 
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Wayne Rooney dosent really possess raw pace...he has tenacity,power and stamina...those are the elements which powers his runs.

I do not think Rooney have slackened...he has become more aware of his skills and does not gamble as much as when he was younger..You know when you are younger and hungry and you know you can run at pace against defender...you would run them ragged all day long...but when your crossing,shooting and composure has improved,you tend to be more relaxed and calculate your moves better,thats it.

VDS is back sounds like music to my ears.I have given up on Foster.He is not good enough right now.I have said this before and will say this again.We should use the 80 million and invest on a star goalkeeper...someone like Gigi Buffon or Iker Casillas.No more promising young keepers...we need them ready made.
 
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Phat J 22 said:
hit us like what? last time i checked we were 2 points off the top of the table.
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2 years ago we had an attack that would scare the hell out of any team on the planet, the next year we had the best defence in Europe. What do we have this time around?
 
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Good to see Edwin back. Apparently he could be ready for Bolton next week...
In a way I feel a bit sorry for Foster. For years I've been backing him & saying he'll be great for us, but it just hasn't happened. And with a team that's expected to win things you can't keep risking giving chances to players who underperform (I'm guessing Nani has incriminating photos of Fergie to get around that!).
If he does get another chance before VDS is back in the team, I hope he has a good game, otherwise he'll be limited to domestic cup games and probably shipped out in the summer...

On a different note... Anyone see the reserves last night? I didn't catch all of it, but from what I saw Josh King looked really good, and Kiko was also impressive holding the ball up...
 
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Yeah I watched the reserves. Pretty terrible game imo, Everton were soooo dullllll. And we weren't that much better.

King is deceptively fast, but a bit too selfish at the moment. Likes to turn and run against whole sets of defenders, often disregarding better placed temmates. Still, has a lot of raw skill there.

Kiko had his best game of the year so far, scored, and generally looked a ilttle better than everyone else. Should be back to the first XI bench soon hopefully.

Hargo, Obertan and Rafael are all expected to get reserve runouts in the next 2-3 weeks :)
 
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When Ronaldo used to go on a rampage you couldn't stop him, but we've lost that now so we need someone who'll actually test defenders for pace by simply running at them with the ball, get this kid on the pitch Fergie.

Really looking forward to seeing what Obertan does. Looks like a cross between Ronaldo and Zidane without actually being anything like them (and nowhere near as good of course), at least he'll provide something different.

And of course I want Hargo back in the squad.
 
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I think we are all highly anticipating Obertan's debut not only because he is new but because of what he can do on the ball and run at defenders.

I think by now Sir Alex has not been satisfied with Nani and Valencia has yet to prove his price tag.No wonder the David Silva rumours are never ending.

We are linked with Julio Cesar of Inter today.This is what I am talking about...if he is available at the end of this season,WE NEED TO BREAK THE BANK AND GET HIM!!!
 
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Why would inter sell? He is quality though, outstanding against us last year in the CL.
 
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I'm telling you Ryan...No club wants to sell their best players...that is until the right price is being placed on the table.
 
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Cesar's one of the best in the world but he's already 30.

If we were to buy a replacement for vdS, he'll likely be in his mid to late 20s.
 
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I can only see us going for experience after the Foster debacle (if it doens't work out). Fergie has been burned many times in the past, and EVDS was old when we got him. Someone around Cesar's level of experience would make sense.
 
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30 isn't that old for a keeper. VDS was around 33/34 when we bought him?
 
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I never said it was old. Goalkeepers peak around their early 30s anyway.
 
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After re-reading your post I get you what you mean now. :)

Zieler from our reserves is meant to be pretty good. We should give him a go in the Carling Cup. He's only 20, but if he's good enough it'd save a small fortune. I think he's heading out on loan in January though...
 
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also been reported our intrest in maicon, to be honest i think would be a signing we need, our right back is something of a weak point over past while and with maicon and evra on the flanks, we'll easily have best defence in the league, perhaps world but not getting ahead myself on that one just yet ;)
 
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i dont know what about rafael and fabio? brown would be on the bench at best and neville would be history. i always like seeing us develop a player like rafael instead of buying already established talent. he is a beast though.
 
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RuneEdge said:
They steal way too many of our players. I'm almost getting used to it. We're almost like a feeder club to them.
Back when we sold Beckham, he was probably our biggest star, so was Ruud when he was sold, and now Ronaldo.
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To be fair Real Madrid are more are our retiring home. Beckham, Ruud and Heinze were all shipped out rather than Real taking them. Ronaldo was the exception but he's a funny lad who got caught up in the glamorized Madrid Galactico policy of old. :))

RuneEdge said:
The thing that bugs me is that we've been in a transition period before but never has the loss of some players hit us like this. And with the debt that the Glazers have on this club, we cant really afford to drop our standards.
Something needs to be done, and quick. I'm hoping the return of VDS will stabilize the defence and things will pick up from there. But until then, I cant help but worry about the state we're in.
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:CONFUSE: You mean playing much better football than we were last season? Were along with Chelsea the main contenders for the title and below Barcelona (isn't everyone) among the favourites for the Champions League! Im wondering what you must have been like in 2005 Rune when we got a wakeup call in Portugal.

matherto said:
When Ronaldo used to go on a rampage you couldn't stop him, but we've lost that now so we need someone who'll actually test defenders for pace by simply running at them with the ball, get this kid on the pitch Fergie.

Really looking forward to seeing what Obertan does. Looks like a cross between Ronaldo and Zidane without actually being anything like them (and nowhere near as good of course), at least he'll provide something different.

And of course I want Hargo back in the squad.
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In his early years most definitely but last season whenever Ronaldo attempted to dribble with the ball it all fell apart I rarely remember him beating his fullback consistently in a match?

Obertan isn't as good as Zidane or Ronaldo currently but I doubt you would have compared Ronaldo to Zidane when he was 20 in his 2nd season for us either.

Seems like our scouts are in Italy at the moment. Kjaer Maicon, Cesar and Jovetic all been somewhat linked to us in the last few days.
 
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Yeah saw that yesterday, VERY impressed with his short range passing and movement around the ball. He made some mistakes but that obviously gonna happen.

He really does 'glide' like a certain Brazilian our inbred neighbours tried to sign.:WHISTLE:
 
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The two Serb lads, Tosic and Ljajic, seem to have very good football brains, especially for their ages.

Makes a change from another young winger like Nani. :P
 
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That's why I'm still pissed that Fergie played Welbeck out of position on the left instead of Tosic. I mean, how clear is it he's not going to get a chance when that kind of thing happens?!
 
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I think it's just that Tosic is not as good as you guys think. Sure, he didn't get many chances to prove himself but on the few games he has played he didn't really shine.
SAF has the chance to see him practice every day. If he doesn't play him then it's clear to me that he thinks he's just not cut for the job, at least for now.

I'm hoping that Ljajic will get a chance as soon as he joins us. He does seem tougher than Tosic.
 
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He looks more technically gifted too. Wingers are probably all we need when you think about it. (And maybe a keeper but its not important at the moment)

We have a brilliant defence, 3 top strikers plus some great young prospects, we just need our midfield to click. In the center I think we're fine with Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs (whenever he plays there), Hargreaves (whenever he's fit), its just Anderson that needs to step up another gear. But other than its fine. So that just leaves the wingers like I said. Its probably our weakest department.
In some ways I look at it and think it was stupid to not reinforce the wing while Ronaldo was still here cuz if he had got a lengthy injury, we probably would have struggled big time.
It might sound unfair but its all up to Ljajic and Obertan now and both are looking good from the little I've seen. Really cant wait to see both play for us.
 
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RuneEdge said:
He looks more technically gifted too. Wingers are probably all we need when you think about it. (And maybe a keeper but its not important at the moment)

We have a brilliant defence, 3 top strikers plus some great young prospects, we just need our midfield to click. In the center I think we're fine with Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs (whenever he plays there), Hargreaves (whenever he's fit), its just Anderson that needs to step up another gear. But other than its fine. So that just leaves the wingers like I said. Its probably our weakest department.
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Well let's think about it, the defence has been shocking this year (granted the selection has been mixed and that's hindered everything). We still have no first choice right back, Nev, Rafael and Brown all seem to just love having time on the sidelines, and when Rafael plays I'm always worried because the guy cannot defend for shit.

O'Shea can play there, and I love the guy for his versatility but it's a bit of a problem when he's a horrible footballer wherever he plays. One more hoofed ball up to absolutely noone and I might just kill him after the match I swear.

Rio and Vida seem to be smoking something chronic this year as well. Rio is just off his head (or injured) and Vida has been affected by that, or possibly by the Barca rumours who knows? Evans really impressed me last year, but again if he's gonna be great he needs a full run in the team and won't get that unless one of the other two leaves.

Then we've got the midfield, and although Scholes and especially Giggs have been good (and at times fantastic this year), lets face it, if we get one more year out of them after this we'll be damn lucky.

Fletcher is the only guy I trust in our midfield because you can simply rely on him, but Carrick is liable to have a shit game or two every so often (especially in big games), and at times he'll go off the boil for a while like the end of last year/start of this year. Anderson can't be trusted (he'll come good I'm convinced, but not right now), Hargreaves will take time to return and even then that leaves us the problem of filling Giggs and Scholes' creativity which quite frankly I really don't think we have. I mean, Carrick is a great passer of the ball, but he's not a patch on those two, and therefore we have noone else.

I'm not even gonna talk about the wingers because unless Obertan is absolutely, miraculously wonderful and hits the ground running, we don't have anyone who will actually beat a man. And plus the fact crossing doesn't seem to work since Rooney and Berbatov like to have the ball to their feet, and lets face it we're lucky if either is actually in the box most of the time.

Speaking of them two, neither can be trusted to get us 20 league goals because they're not out and out strikers, you'll be pretty lucky if either gets 20 goals in a season as well in reality. Then you've only trully got Owen capable of backup, but he'll probably be injured anyway and he can't play with Rooney. Wellbeck and Macheda are prospects and nothing more, they're nowhere near good enough to be trully useful to us just yet.

So basically we don't really have that great a squad, especailly not one that'll frighten European opposition of any caliber. Sounds like I'm horribly over-reacting but it's just an opinion.

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....and Mame Biram Diouf too Rune...I'm always excited for forwards....plus he looks like 50 Cent.
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Three words for this bloke that we should all be weary of.

John. Obi. Mikel.
 
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