PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Fernando Torres
Too many FM/CM players and media-listeners around these days, sadly, it seems. While not enough people on this (.co.uk community) who actually follow Torres on a weekly basis and judge him by what they see rather than listening to all the constant over-the-top hype he's been receiving by the media since he was practically an infant instead. (If any of you have followed him regularly almost every week since he made his debut many years ago like I have, let me know though. I'm curious to see just how many of you "SUPER-EXCITED" boys and men, actually fall in that category) :rolleyes:
I've always liked Torres and am still a fan but I'll be the first and one of the few who will have the b@lls to tell you the truth about him. Fernando is in all honesty, one of the most over-rated players in the world at the moment.
He's good and has the potential to be great and become a complete striker and one of the world's very best one day. But right now he's faaaar from that. Yet, somehow thanks to the incompetent crazy media that's been hyping him up insanely ever since he made his debut as a teenager, his reputation is easily at least TWICE his ability.
We don't even know if the news has any truth in it but if it is and Atletico are willing to sell, I can't say I'm surprised. It makes sense. The kid has proven in the past couple years and just recently again this season, that his "NAME" and popularity world-wide is FAAAR greater than his actual current ability and what he, consistently in reality produces on the pitch. So when you have a player like that, why NOT announce that he could be available for sale at the right price and ultimately sell him for a huge amount, mostly thanks to his immense reputation rather than impressive consistent performances? :-s
I know I would because it'd be a great business decision!
With the big cheque, Atletico will coup from him and his huge name after sale, they'll have enough cash to improve their already impressive squad of Int'l players even more by finding a suitable replacement for him and probably strengthening a couple other positions with a couple quality purchases as well. So if you really have deep knowledge of just what his ability is like and think about it, Atletico are being very smart IF that news isn't BS and they're actually gonna sell him this summer. Those chicky b@$tards. :p
Why are they being so smart and going to get large benefits from this sale? (Not to forget, all the productivitiy they have got out of Fernando over the years without having spent any fee on him of course since he came out of their own youth academy) Because, It's the perfect time to sell him. :mrgreen:
Because they're doing it while he's technically still classified by many as a talented youngster, even though he's 23 now and still hasn't developed to be 3/4th the player we thought and expected, he'd become by now when we saw him at 18 years old. If they wait one more year, he'll suddenly be 24 and at 24 years of age, and the same current level of ability (Assuming, he doesn't suddenly have an amazing year next season and develop immensely at Atletico which I don't see happening), a lot of people are gonna realize some things about you and your market value at that age won't be as high anymore because now you're neither considered a talented youngster at 24 anymore, nor a world-class striker to pull mega-cash like that for transfer. So this is the last summer, Atletico has a chance to earn BIG money from somebody for him without him having put in the magnificent performances that pulls mega-cash like that. Because next summer, the only way they'll get a big fee for him is if suddenly Torres has turned into a world-class striker during this upcoming season and put in consistently great performances which is much different from his performances and track record in career so far.
So excuse me, but it's rather amusing to see just how excited some/many fans who probably haven't even watched him on a consistent basis, can get due to his big-name (not big ability) even before anything remotely official is confirmed! :rolleyes: :lol:
My word of caution to you guys then (Since I have a lot of friends who are Man U fans and I don't want to see them sad or disappointed later on simply due to lack of deep accurate knowledge and relying on the excessive hype by the evil media), is to be excited but definitely tone it down. Don't be TOO excited is basically what I'm trying to tell you friends,
for your own sakes. Because 99 % of the time, when players who aren't world-class (like Fernando) get used by the media that way and get hyped up to death to make them sound like some super-god, it can only lead to disappointment eventually and is actually bad for the player himself. :|
Be excited because if you do get him, you will have acquired another player who can become great in the future (ala Anderson and to a lesser extent Nani) but if you're thinking, you'll get this guy and he's already a hit-man or world-class and gonna help you considerably and immediately with your title defense next season, you're mistaken. He'll have to develop a lot more to become a clinical and world-class striker. The good news is, he has all the right tools and potential in place to eventually become that, hopefully, one day.
His goal-scoring record isn't really impressive nor consistent especially when you consider the amount of minutes he's played each season and just how many matches he's participated/started in. Not to mention quite a bit of those goals were from PK's although he recently isn't the #1 taker anymore after he missed more PK's in the past couple years than any other player I've seen and even when he did score a lot of goals in a season, he missed a LOT of great chances and could've had double that amount if you were to watch full matches from him and see just how wasteful he often is. After all, scoring one goal from every 5-6 great chances you get isn't exactly impressive even if it does at the end of the season amount to 16 goals let's say which he hasn't even been able to do recently despite playing in the league he's been playing at for many years now and being used to the opposition, the weather, the culture and his team-mates, etc. (Which he won't be when he moves to a new league or a new team and he won't be as comfortable). His record will look even less impressive when you consider the fact that he gets his supply from great quality players like Martin Petrov, Pernia, Antonio Lopez, Maniche and Maxi Rodriguez around him (Not to mention guys like Aguero, Luccin, Galletti or Mista) and how he's their #1 target to create chances for (Unlike other teams with 2 quality strikers where many of the balls will be directed to your partner and not you). The bottom line of the story is, they create a LOT of great chances for this guy as a result and he simply doesn't take enough of them.
Fernando ruins so many relatively easy chances and opportunities, that he can compete with Adebayor for that 'title' :lol: which is what Emmanuel became famous for among many people during his period with "Monaco". :lol:
Anyway having said all that though, the good news is, you probably won't get him. The news that he's leaving Atletico may be only a rumour just like it turns up every year yet doesn't materialize (since he's constantly and even most recently talked about how he wants to stay). And even if it was true, he said that he'd prefer to stay in Spain in which case, Barca would be the club he'd move to since he will not play for Real for obvious reasons and Valencia is a bit short on cash right now due to plans for new stadium and other matters. And even then, if he was to move out of Spain, there'd still be a decent chance that Man U won't be his destination but another club like Inter or AC Milan or Liverpool instead, who may spend millions and millions of $$$ on a risky (rather than proven) asset which may eventually turn to be a good buy IF developing for a couple more years and adapting successfully. OR it could become a big flop due to not having enough ability yet to justify a big money transfer move like that and the club that buys him and its fans not being patient enough with him, not to mention, the fact that some people just aren't very adapable and can't get used to life in another country or the style of football in another country/league. In that case, he will move again but for less money this time (An example would be to think of how much Djibril Cisse cost Liverpool and how they now can't offload him easily and even when they do, it'll be for a lot less than they bought him for) and hence a big loss for the club who originally bought him off Atletico and Atletico being the real winners on this business deal and having made the "smart" move to offload at just the right time.
My final advice to those friends of mine who support Man U then is this:
"IF you DO manage to get Torres this summer, be excited. BUT be moderately excited and nothing too much or excessive like if you had signed a true world-class striker such as Eto'o or David Villa or Luca Toni or Klose for example. Let's put it this way to make it even more clear. If you do get him, I think you should be AS excited as you would be if you found out Man U is signing Darren Bent let's say. Because while the difference in REPUTATION of these two is huge. The difference in current ability certainly isn't. And obviously, Darren wouldn't have to adapt to life or language in England as if it's a new thing or adapt to the different nature of EPL from La Liga where as Fernando would and all of that not only takes time but sometimes just doesn't ever fully get adapted and then the player becomes disillusioned with life and maybe even football and loses confidence like Luque did with Newcastle and his initial unsuccessful and injury-plagued start which then set the tone almost for the rest of his days with them.
And on the other hand, if you DONT get him, don't be sad about it much. There'll be other players who are more proven and consistent for the same or nearly same amount of money available (and sometimes less money) and there are also those who are equally as good as Torres yet available for much less due to their lower reputation and not having received THAT much hype from media since the days they still wore diapers :mrgreen: which is practically what's happened with Fernando. :p
So again, if you DO miss out on him or your club and legendary manager elect to NOT move for him, don't be mad or sad by it or if you are gonna be, at least be as mad/sad as you would if you missed out on Darren Bent. And also be happy by realizing that whoever else did spend the big $$$ on him instead of your club, has done quite a risky bit of business and is likely to get less value out of their money than they paid for.
Good luck and I wish you guys a good summer and an exciting season next year.
Last but not least, I want to give y'all a belated congratulation from me, on your 06/07 Premier League title success which proved, you were with little doubt, the best team in England this season.
Ciao.
Too many FM/CM players and media-listeners around these days, sadly, it seems. While not enough people on this (.co.uk community) who actually follow Torres on a weekly basis and judge him by what they see rather than listening to all the constant over-the-top hype he's been receiving by the media since he was practically an infant instead. (If any of you have followed him regularly almost every week since he made his debut many years ago like I have, let me know though. I'm curious to see just how many of you "SUPER-EXCITED" boys and men, actually fall in that category) :rolleyes:
I've always liked Torres and am still a fan but I'll be the first and one of the few who will have the b@lls to tell you the truth about him. Fernando is in all honesty, one of the most over-rated players in the world at the moment.
He's good and has the potential to be great and become a complete striker and one of the world's very best one day. But right now he's faaaar from that. Yet, somehow thanks to the incompetent crazy media that's been hyping him up insanely ever since he made his debut as a teenager, his reputation is easily at least TWICE his ability.
We don't even know if the news has any truth in it but if it is and Atletico are willing to sell, I can't say I'm surprised. It makes sense. The kid has proven in the past couple years and just recently again this season, that his "NAME" and popularity world-wide is FAAAR greater than his actual current ability and what he, consistently in reality produces on the pitch. So when you have a player like that, why NOT announce that he could be available for sale at the right price and ultimately sell him for a huge amount, mostly thanks to his immense reputation rather than impressive consistent performances? :-s
I know I would because it'd be a great business decision!
With the big cheque, Atletico will coup from him and his huge name after sale, they'll have enough cash to improve their already impressive squad of Int'l players even more by finding a suitable replacement for him and probably strengthening a couple other positions with a couple quality purchases as well. So if you really have deep knowledge of just what his ability is like and think about it, Atletico are being very smart IF that news isn't BS and they're actually gonna sell him this summer. Those chicky b@$tards. :p
Why are they being so smart and going to get large benefits from this sale? (Not to forget, all the productivitiy they have got out of Fernando over the years without having spent any fee on him of course since he came out of their own youth academy) Because, It's the perfect time to sell him. :mrgreen:
Because they're doing it while he's technically still classified by many as a talented youngster, even though he's 23 now and still hasn't developed to be 3/4th the player we thought and expected, he'd become by now when we saw him at 18 years old. If they wait one more year, he'll suddenly be 24 and at 24 years of age, and the same current level of ability (Assuming, he doesn't suddenly have an amazing year next season and develop immensely at Atletico which I don't see happening), a lot of people are gonna realize some things about you and your market value at that age won't be as high anymore because now you're neither considered a talented youngster at 24 anymore, nor a world-class striker to pull mega-cash like that for transfer. So this is the last summer, Atletico has a chance to earn BIG money from somebody for him without him having put in the magnificent performances that pulls mega-cash like that. Because next summer, the only way they'll get a big fee for him is if suddenly Torres has turned into a world-class striker during this upcoming season and put in consistently great performances which is much different from his performances and track record in career so far.
So excuse me, but it's rather amusing to see just how excited some/many fans who probably haven't even watched him on a consistent basis, can get due to his big-name (not big ability) even before anything remotely official is confirmed! :rolleyes: :lol:
My word of caution to you guys then (Since I have a lot of friends who are Man U fans and I don't want to see them sad or disappointed later on simply due to lack of deep accurate knowledge and relying on the excessive hype by the evil media), is to be excited but definitely tone it down. Don't be TOO excited is basically what I'm trying to tell you friends,
for your own sakes. Because 99 % of the time, when players who aren't world-class (like Fernando) get used by the media that way and get hyped up to death to make them sound like some super-god, it can only lead to disappointment eventually and is actually bad for the player himself. :|Be excited because if you do get him, you will have acquired another player who can become great in the future (ala Anderson and to a lesser extent Nani) but if you're thinking, you'll get this guy and he's already a hit-man or world-class and gonna help you considerably and immediately with your title defense next season, you're mistaken. He'll have to develop a lot more to become a clinical and world-class striker. The good news is, he has all the right tools and potential in place to eventually become that, hopefully, one day.
His goal-scoring record isn't really impressive nor consistent especially when you consider the amount of minutes he's played each season and just how many matches he's participated/started in. Not to mention quite a bit of those goals were from PK's although he recently isn't the #1 taker anymore after he missed more PK's in the past couple years than any other player I've seen and even when he did score a lot of goals in a season, he missed a LOT of great chances and could've had double that amount if you were to watch full matches from him and see just how wasteful he often is. After all, scoring one goal from every 5-6 great chances you get isn't exactly impressive even if it does at the end of the season amount to 16 goals let's say which he hasn't even been able to do recently despite playing in the league he's been playing at for many years now and being used to the opposition, the weather, the culture and his team-mates, etc. (Which he won't be when he moves to a new league or a new team and he won't be as comfortable). His record will look even less impressive when you consider the fact that he gets his supply from great quality players like Martin Petrov, Pernia, Antonio Lopez, Maniche and Maxi Rodriguez around him (Not to mention guys like Aguero, Luccin, Galletti or Mista) and how he's their #1 target to create chances for (Unlike other teams with 2 quality strikers where many of the balls will be directed to your partner and not you). The bottom line of the story is, they create a LOT of great chances for this guy as a result and he simply doesn't take enough of them.
Fernando ruins so many relatively easy chances and opportunities, that he can compete with Adebayor for that 'title' :lol: which is what Emmanuel became famous for among many people during his period with "Monaco". :lol:
Anyway having said all that though, the good news is, you probably won't get him. The news that he's leaving Atletico may be only a rumour just like it turns up every year yet doesn't materialize (since he's constantly and even most recently talked about how he wants to stay). And even if it was true, he said that he'd prefer to stay in Spain in which case, Barca would be the club he'd move to since he will not play for Real for obvious reasons and Valencia is a bit short on cash right now due to plans for new stadium and other matters. And even then, if he was to move out of Spain, there'd still be a decent chance that Man U won't be his destination but another club like Inter or AC Milan or Liverpool instead, who may spend millions and millions of $$$ on a risky (rather than proven) asset which may eventually turn to be a good buy IF developing for a couple more years and adapting successfully. OR it could become a big flop due to not having enough ability yet to justify a big money transfer move like that and the club that buys him and its fans not being patient enough with him, not to mention, the fact that some people just aren't very adapable and can't get used to life in another country or the style of football in another country/league. In that case, he will move again but for less money this time (An example would be to think of how much Djibril Cisse cost Liverpool and how they now can't offload him easily and even when they do, it'll be for a lot less than they bought him for) and hence a big loss for the club who originally bought him off Atletico and Atletico being the real winners on this business deal and having made the "smart" move to offload at just the right time.
My final advice to those friends of mine who support Man U then is this:
"IF you DO manage to get Torres this summer, be excited. BUT be moderately excited and nothing too much or excessive like if you had signed a true world-class striker such as Eto'o or David Villa or Luca Toni or Klose for example. Let's put it this way to make it even more clear. If you do get him, I think you should be AS excited as you would be if you found out Man U is signing Darren Bent let's say. Because while the difference in REPUTATION of these two is huge. The difference in current ability certainly isn't. And obviously, Darren wouldn't have to adapt to life or language in England as if it's a new thing or adapt to the different nature of EPL from La Liga where as Fernando would and all of that not only takes time but sometimes just doesn't ever fully get adapted and then the player becomes disillusioned with life and maybe even football and loses confidence like Luque did with Newcastle and his initial unsuccessful and injury-plagued start which then set the tone almost for the rest of his days with them.
And on the other hand, if you DONT get him, don't be sad about it much. There'll be other players who are more proven and consistent for the same or nearly same amount of money available (and sometimes less money) and there are also those who are equally as good as Torres yet available for much less due to their lower reputation and not having received THAT much hype from media since the days they still wore diapers :mrgreen: which is practically what's happened with Fernando. :p
So again, if you DO miss out on him or your club and legendary manager elect to NOT move for him, don't be mad or sad by it or if you are gonna be, at least be as mad/sad as you would if you missed out on Darren Bent. And also be happy by realizing that whoever else did spend the big $$$ on him instead of your club, has done quite a risky bit of business and is likely to get less value out of their money than they paid for.
Good luck and I wish you guys a good summer and an exciting season next year.
Last but not least, I want to give y'all a belated congratulation from me, on your 06/07 Premier League title success which proved, you were with little doubt, the best team in England this season.
Ciao.
:lol: just kidding.
