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PIPA23 said:
Konchesky won´t come back imo..

Poulsen if he steps up his game has few years in him, we need experienced players imo...i would not yet gave him away..he did ok in games under Kenny

Sktel makes same mistakes as others...Agger did them also few games now.. imo he has future in LFC..but we buy a defender or promote one from reserves..

Soto don´t have a reason not to stay :)

Cole has show nothing yet to prove his high salary..
Jova most probably will go, not shure if he wanted to stay and fight or for the salary..becouse he was wanted by Wolfsburg and maybe other teams..

names as Hazard is to soon to mention, but we might get some high talented players if we manage to stay in cup positions in the end of season...

i bet we have already lined up some talented players.. Comolli want some young players as Mvila and Lukaku, Hazard...but this are most bigest talents and we need to play for trophys to lure them...if they are not supporters :D
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I think Jovanovic is a different type of player, he's not in it for the money imo. He feels he has more to offer given the chance. I think he's a talented player and deserves a chance but i can't see him getting in ahead of Suarez or Maxi on the left.
 
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yes i think as well..but Kenny did´t used him yet and i think he is fit to play.. it´s shame becouse he could be better back up then Ngog, giving his age and previous stay at Standard Liege..
 
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PIPA23 said:
eh?

Skrtel is OK defender imo and Dalglish want him to partner Agger, if not we´d buy a defender already..I dont say this only becouse he´s my countryman..
Poulsen only getting better under Kenny and is good squad player..
Aurelio is our best LB and when fit maybe top 5 in EPL..

we already get rid of Konchesky btw.
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I dont agree at lot. Poulsen is pure shit, a waste of space in the squad and of wages. His good years are well behind and we have got a mediocre player on high wages so it is gonna be very tough to offload him.
Skrtel it is pretty normal too. I dont think he has the class needed to play in Liverpool.
And Aurelio is just ALWAYS injured. You cant have an LB that is always injured, you cant change your defense all the time.
As it has all ready be said, in the summer we should buy a class LB, a CB, a wing and a CM/AM with vision and passing.
We should bring Taiwo, who is out of contract next June. I think he would be a beast in the PL, he is physically a monster, he is very good defensively and offensively and he has got also a good shot.
 
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Liverbird said:
I dont agree at lot. Poulsen is pure shit, a waste of space in the squad and of wages. His good years are well behind and we have got a mediocre player on high wages so it is gonna be very tough to offload him.
Skrtel it is pretty normal too. I dont think he has the class needed to play in Liverpool.
And Aurelio is just ALWAYS injured. You cant have an LB that is always injured, you cant change your defense all the time.
As it has all ready be said, in the summer we should buy a class LB, a CB, a wing and a CM/AM with vision and passing.
We should bring Taiwo, who is out of contract next June. I think he would be a beast in the PL, he is physically a monster, he is very good defensively and offensively and he has got also a good shot.
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I think you're harsh on Poulsen and have never given him a chance to be honest. He could dominate a game for 90 minutes ands score a hat-trick and you'd still have a go at him about something. The last two games he's played in (vs Wolves and Fulham) he played really well before tiring in the second half, which is inevitable with his lack of games.

Aurelio does have a bad injury record, but at the same time i bet you want Agger in the side? Well his injury record isn't much better than Fabio's.
 
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Liverbird said:
Poulsen is pure shit, a waste of space in the squad and of wages.
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I know he is not techincaly great, but please dont call LFC player pure shit, especialy not if Kenny playes them.. I can say Kenny things Konchesky is shit, this is why he is not here anymore, but Poulsen played except of last game in all games under Kenny and he clearly don´t think he is shit at all.. you have your own subjective feelings but this is to harsh to tell...

many times i heard in past Lucas is shit..but this season he is many times man of match and he only get´s better..

Skrtel it is pretty normal too. I dont think he has the class needed to play in Liverpool.
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Well Kenny thinks he has the class to, that´s why he featured in all matches under him and with Agger as his partner..i dont think he will be away so soon.. he is consistent enought to play as CB..even with some minor mistakes sometimes..

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And Aurelio is just ALWAYS injured. You cant have an LB that is always injured, you cant change your defense all the time.
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I don´t argue with part he is quite often injured, but Kenny also send Konchesky away and played Johnson on LB, Johnson did nothing wrong there to be fair.. but with Kelly who imo will not be as good CB as he is RB, Johnson would have no place in squad in time if we bought Taiwo...i dont argue he is great player..
 
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He thought for more days that Fernando will move to Chelsea. Slovak LFC defender Martin Škrtel knows very much what he mean this means for "the reds". "He is a world class player. Such a striker would be missed in any club", are his thoughts before the match against Sparta Prague.

He might look a quiet person, but Slovak Liverpool defender Martin Škrtel has found his way to his team mate Fernand Torres. It would be strainge if not, they lived very close to each other. "So i lost my neighbur as well.." he said with sad tone.

What was your relationship with Torres?
„I can say we were close to each other. We were hanging out quite often of the field and he was definetly one of my better mates. That is also a reason his move is sad for me to cope with.“

Did you thought he will move?
„I count with this. There has been talk about something for long time, and the last days without him being in training, not even in Melwood, this speculations only get stronger. It´s realy sad for us, becouse he is a world class player, and to be honest we were shocked.“

Did he speak about his reasons to move away from the club?
„Well there was some hints year ago in summer, when Chelsea was interested in him, but the club has made a deal with him to stay. But this season, wich went not in our plans may convinced him that he should chainge the surroundings. That is what he said to us.“

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Torres dreams about big trophys and he might not get them in Liverpool now. Do you understand his situation?
„Of course, every football player want´s to win something big. He decieded like this. I hope he will have succes, but i don´t wish succes to Chelsea. Fernando will maybe regret this step later.“

By the way, angry fans have burned his shirts in front of Melwood. Was it very hot in Liverpool?
„Not right after the training, becouse it was clear he will move. At evening i saw in TV that there has been some fans burning his shirts there for real. But this is football. Two days ago they have Torres as God, today he is hated.“

What´s maybe a bit ironic, he might have his Chelsea debut on Sundey against Liverpool. How will you take it?
„It will be a big chainge, i´m as well curious how it will be. It shurely will be specific, so far we only met against each other in trainings. I hope he will play. Chelsea wanted him so much, so it´s very likely he will play. I look forward to that and i realy hope i will succed to not let him score.“

In two weeks you will play against Sparta. Can the Sparta fans be more satisfied about the fact that Liverpool loosed their star?
„Such a player would be missed at any club, that´s shure, but we bought Suarez and Carroll. We belive this two players will take a part on that game and our strenght will be minimaly so strong like untill now.“

Luis Suárez can only play in Premier League matches. Do you think this two can replace Torres?
„They are both very different types then Fernando, but Suarez has proven for long in Uruguay and Ajax shirt that he´s a quality striker. I hope he will do well in England. Carroll is an amazing footballer, i played against him and he is very hard to defend. He´s got a very good heading ability. This two could build good pairtnership.“

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/fotba...-o-torresovi-mozna-bude-prestupu-litovat.html
 
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Ive seen enough of Poulsen. He has been a poor player since he went to Juventus and it is a total waste of money. What ´s the point on spending high wages on a player that is old, it is going to get worse and not better and hasnt got the level to be at Liverpool ?
The fact that Kenny played him is totally irrelative. He played Poulsen because he didnt have other options, he played him when Gerrrard was sancionated and when Lucas was injured. When all the players are avaivable no way he is going to play him. He tried to sign Adam after all, who is not a replacement to Poulsen, but is another midfielder and could play AM while Meireles can be drop to CM if necessary.
About Glen Johnson, he has been decent on the LB. But that ´s not his position. There is no point in playing a world class RB on the left. Kenny is just doing it because he doesnt have other another player, but no way he is going to waste his quality playing him on the left.
Again, the fact that Kenny played Skrtel is totally irrelevant. He could have played him just because we dont have other players, not because he thinks he is class. Let see who goes to the bench when Carragher comes back, all my bets that that player would be Skrtel.
If Reina gets injured, Kenny would have to probably play Brad Jones. Does that mean that he thinks that he is an amazing keeper and while he has not the level to play in a Championship club he does to play in Liverpool ? Absolutely not.
And about Agger and injuries, he has a history of injuries. I dont know what happened this season, if he didnt play because he was injured or because Hodgson didnt wanted him. I just know that as soon Kenny took charge he started playing again, and last season I think was encouraging. When he recovered from the injury that keeped him from starting the season, he stayed fit.
 
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Rafa has said that Torres was worth 70m a year ago.....
and that it is his dream to manage Liverpool one day..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9387132.stm

Well with his downturn of form/injuries...
I think 50m is pretty good for now...

Rafa loves Liverpool....and I can't honestly see him
managing another team....

Well if Kenny continues in good form...then it will be a long
time before Rafa ever can think of coming back..

I think his time has gone....and would be really surprised
if he ever came back.
YNWA Rafa...
 
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People talk about Hazard coming to Liverpool. This seems highly improbable to me.
There are only two clubs really in the run for Eden Hazard (he as two younger brother who are very good aswell and the youngest is the best...Eden is the oldest): Real Madrid and (especially) Arsenal.

How do i know?
Well last year i visited my parents and went to a shopping centre with my father. There i bopped into a guy with whom i played football for some years...this turned out to be Hazard's father (with whom a played for Brainois a litle club in the town near my parents). We talked together for a while and i had no idea he was the father of the 3 footballing prodigies, until he said so himself. We talked about his sons (According to his father, the youngest of the 3 footballing sons, Ethan, is the most talented one) and also about Eden's future. His father told me that most probably Eden will end up with Arsenal or maybe Real Madrid. Madrid because Zidane is talking Eden up and is trying to lure him to Real (and of course Eden is charmed by all that). Arsenal, because both father and son are pretty sure that this is the best club for young, technical players like Eden.
 
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I wouldn't mind giving Aquilani another season to prove himself. I liked him when he played tbh. He will have had a season to bulk up aswell after his injuries and the team is playing a system far more suited to his style then when he was at the club. You can never had too many clever players at the club and he is one. Gerrard is getting older and the movement the team is using would suit him perfectly imo.

I'd say his take on the special dislike that LFC fans have for CFC (new money et al) is very interesting.
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Yep, it goes against what the club stands for.
 
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Benitez doing the BBC rounds...saying he'd love to manage Pool again. Wonder if he'd pay back the settlement fee? ;)
 
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As I've said, I'd be happy to see Rafa back at some point. Not sure if/when it'd happen though.
 
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mathewsss said:
Rafa has said that Torres was worth 70m a year ago.....
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He is still worth it today...he is a globaly known player.. i noticed the first day of his arrival more thousands people go to official chelsea facebook page and i bet he will make millions for the club in no time..not to question his ability as player..
 
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Fernando Llorente says he turned Liverpool down in January: "Representatives from Liverpool arrived in Bilbao and had talks with the representatives of our club, but obviously I did not want to be put on the transfer list. So talk about this any longer makes no sense"
 
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DagsJT said:
As I've said, I'd be happy to see Rafa back at some point. Not sure if/when it'd happen though.
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You'd be happy to watch absolutely boring footy again? I despair.

Yes there were some good games but mostly he worried about stopping other teams playing instead of actually getting at teams. I'm no Man Utd lover but over the years they have gone at teams and earned their many trophies. For the most part, they have been good to watch. I can't say that about Liverpool unfortunately as I have been bored to tears watching them for a few years now (apart from a few occasions obviously) so even though he gave us fans a few great moments, I wouldn't want him back EVER. Way too negative for my liking.
 
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The Benitez period is over imo. As much as I thought of him, he won't suit the new ownership structure (the manager is only part of a collective) and I'd be pretty confident that quite a few of the players have had enough of him. Even more importantly I'm far more curious to see what Kenny can bring to the club, working together with the new owners and Commoli, the coaching staff. Maybe in 5-10 years time. But within 5 games the team is playing a far more positive brand of football then under Benitez' reign (looking at the overal style). It may be less defensively sound and tactically structured but it's more interesting. And he's managed it with a "2nd rate" squad/team. Can't wait to see what he can get out of the players with more time and a few signings in the summer.
 
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i am excited again about Liverpool

i am looking forward to each and every game again.

win or lose i am looking forward to watchin LFC.

that is what it should be like for a fan, shouldn't it?

win, lose or draw as long as we fight and look to attack teams i am happy.

i want to watch exciting football and we havn't had that for a long time it seems

i hope it continues
 
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Interesting... some of you might know about it, but Roma are being taken over by Americans. It seems to be related to the company that just took over Liverpool.
 
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It's one of the guys who has ties with NESV, can't remember his name though.
 
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Milanista said:
Interesting... some of you might know about it, but Roma are being taken over by Americans. It seems to be related to the company that just took over Liverpool.
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Great. Ive always been a fan of Juventus, but I like Roma a lot. Im a fanatic of De Rossi and Vucinic.
It would be very good if they finally got owners that want to invest. Rosella is just their own H&G italian version.
 
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Rosella is actually great - she does everything for Roma for her whole life ever since her father passed away. It's the owners (Unicredit Bank) that aren't letting the team grow. She will still lead Roma with the new owners I think.
 
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Ahh I thought Rosella was the owner. I didnt know that Unicredit Bank was the owner. So, Rosella is like the CEO ?
 
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Yep, good interview. It will be very interesting to see how the FFP rules are enforced, as I can't see Chelsea / City being able to continue the way they are. It's probably the main aspect to determine at which rate Liverpool can be succesfull. The clubs development won't change, but it will determine how fast Chelsea and City feel the drawbacks. Arsenal will continue to be as strong, same for Utd imo (if they get rid of the debt/owners asap).
 
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