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Gotta say well played and unlucky.

Showed real heart but maybe it was just too much to do.

Match of the season IMO.

Worries me now though that you've only got the league to focus on, means you can put all your efforts into it.

Sounds weird to say hopefully we'll go out tomorrow as well and then only have the league as well.
 
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Oh, and Lampard > Gerrard, ability and personality wise. Nice to see him show some sportsmanship in the interview.
 
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matherto said:
Gotta say well played and unlucky.

Showed real heart but maybe it was just too much to do.

Match of the season IMO.

Worries me now though that you've only got the league to focus on, means you can put all your efforts into it.

Sounds weird to say hopefully we'll go out tomorrow as well and then only have the league as well.
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why? you have the squad and you're gonna need to pick up big ears another two times without answer to match us.
 
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Aboutreika18 said:
Oh, and Lampard > Gerrard, ability and personality wise. Nice to see him show some sportsmanship in the interview.
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Can't agree with that at all I'm afraid :SHAKE:

I think I'm actually hoping for a Utd win tomorrow, as Matherto has said, it'll keep the Mancs busy on that while we focus on the league now :)
 
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PetrovLFC said:
why? you have the squad and you're gonna need to pick up big ears another two times without answer to match us.
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As I've said in our thread, winning the Champions League is nice, it really is, but it doesn't compare to fighting with your biggest rivals to be the best in the country.

I guess if it was Arsenal or Chelsea then I'd be more bothered about tomorrow, but 'cause it's you guys, it matters a whole lot more. :P:D

Doesn't help really that we've gotta pull off something completely out of the blue like you almost did to go onto the semis...where we'll probably get beaten by either Arsenal or Villareal anyways...and if we beat them...Barca...
 
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Aboutreika18 said:
Which part, the ability or personality bit? I find Carragher to be a much more down to earth, level headed professional then Gerrard.
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Well in interviews Gerrard always praises the other team so that's good enough for me. And talent-wise, I rate Gerrard much higher than Lampard, quite a fair bit higher. I just don't think Lampard is all that to be honest.

On another note, good to see Rafa bring on a youth player in Ngog for an important game ;) He did well too, he's clearly getting better with each game and shows a lot of heart when he's played.

On another note again, if Drogba is "injured" and is off the pitch, is he allowed to roll onto the pitch again? I think the commentary said it might just be an English thing but the ref should've have even allowed him back on the pitch until he got permission if he rolled off it, and the ref certainly shouldn't have stopped the game either. That pissed me right off.
 
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DagsJT said:
Well in interviews Gerrard always praises the other team so that's good enough for me. And talent-wise, I rate Gerrard much higher than Lampard, quite a fair bit higher. I just don't think Lampard is all that to be honest.
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Fair enough but quite a fair bit higher? I don't think there's that much difference in terms of overall ability. IMO, Gerrard is probably the more rounded in terms of ability but Lampard has slightly more ability overall.
 
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I agree with Abou. Ability wise there's isnt a great deal between them but in general terms, Gerrard has to be accomodated into a team, usually at the expense of another player. If you play him centre midfield with one other, he can be either fairly ineffecitve or he leaves the other player exposed. Otherwise you have to sacrifice a forward to have him in a free role.

Lampard is far more tactically aware and can play that role perfectly as well as a more advanced role. The myth that all his goals are lucky deflections is ridiculous and the media have played a huge part in the notion that he is inferior to Gerrard. Why do you think Gerrard plays left midfield for England and not in the middle? Capello can see that he is more affective when he has less defensive duties and does not have to be so positionally sound. People seem to forget that Gerrard has cost Liverpool goals in the past where other players are forever cursed for similar.

Lampard has a better goal and assist rate than Gerrard despite playing further back (both take penalties and freekicks so that cannot be used against him).

And that's without talking about his personality and proffesionalism. It's not all about praising the opposition after matches. While Gerrard may naturally be better technically, Lampard has worked very hard at improving his game and working on his weaknesses to get where he is. You never hear about him fighting in nightclubs or involved in any trouble and it really irritates me to see Gerrard constantly lauded as some sort of hero when Lampard is ridiculed for being fat and crap?!

Edit: I forgot to mention the inexplicable diving Gerrard does (I know Rooney & Ronaldo do it, I'm not talking about them) together with speaking out about being against cheating, this is hardly the sign on a good proffesional. Lampard may have gone down easily a couple of times in his career but none that stick in my mind and never a swan dive like m Gerrard does.
 
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Being a Liverpool fan is the best thing in the world, even when we lose we do it gloriously.
Anywhay, if next season we want to win the CL again we need to buy some players. I think that the main problem in our team is the GK and the defense. Reina (although i dont think he was responsible for the first goal) doesnt bring any security, and our defense is even worst.
We need to take advantage of Carrizo situation in Lazio (i know him, im from argentina and ive seen all his match in River at the stadium) and buy him. Same way with Albiol, Valencia doesnt have money.

Anyway, here is my eleven:


-----------------------Carrizo ----------------------
-Carragher------Albiol-------Agger-----------E. Insua
-----------------Masche-------------------------------
--------------------------Xabi Alonso-----------------
--Kuyt----------------------------------------Benayoun
----------------------------Gerrard-------------------
------------------Torres------------------------------
 
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PetrovLFC said:
I love this club, women can go and take a jump, nothing gives me more pleasure than everything about Liverpool. Okay, we're nowhere near the finished article, but compare our fans tonight and the spirit of the team with the placcy flags and a hulk of a striker rolling around and feigning injury from the first minute, to the last (rolling around in pain IN STOPPAGE time, when we needed TWO GOALS and he had already gestured that the game was over)

I'm sorry If i sound bitter. Chelsea are a fantastic TEAM (strongest squad in england), they now have the manager, they have the chequebook.

Drogba, probably the best striker in the world IMO, Torres not far behind, is the biggest cunt in the game. It depletes your faith in humanity when you see so much talent being ruined by cheating, cuntishness and arrogance.

Lampard gave us credit in the post match, drogba said nothing.

Can't fault any Liverpool players tonight, mistakes were made yes, and we'll work on that, but oh my word, the heart!
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if we had a thankyou button, i would click it on your post right there..

good post mate, i agree completly (except for the women part and drogba being the best)
 
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matherto said:
Your eleven includes Kuyt, therefore it isn't good enough.

And Carragher at Right Back just doesn't work.
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I dont like Carragher, actually, i think he is awful, but we dont have anyone better for that position.
About Kuyt, he is an excelent player, he appears and scores in importante matchs and he can play in a lot of position.

Reina, is horrible ! Maybe he is good at penalty shootings but he has the biggest errors ive ever seen. We need a good GK now if we want to win the premier or champions again.
 
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kuyt is a great squad player, he wouldnt get in any of the other big 3s starting 11s. he does play well and come up with some big goals and provides good defensive cover but he wouldnt even get a look in at united, chelsea or arsenal.
 
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I agree with Abou. Ability wise there's isnt a great deal between them but in general terms, Gerrard has to be accomodated into a team, usually at the expense of another player. If you play him centre midfield with one other, he can be either fairly ineffecitve or he leaves the other player exposed. Otherwise you have to sacrifice a forward to have him in a free role.

Lampard is far more tactically aware and can play that role perfectly as well as a more advanced role. The myth that all his goals are lucky deflections is ridiculous and the media have played a huge part in the notion that he is inferior to Gerrard. Why do you think Gerrard plays left midfield for England and not in the middle? Capello can see that he is more affective when he has less defensive duties and does not have to be so positionally sound. People seem to forget that Gerrard has cost Liverpool goals in the past where other players are forever cursed for similar.

Lampard has a better goal and assist rate than Gerrard despite playing further back (both take penalties and freekicks so that cannot be used against him).

And that's without talking about his personality and proffesionalism. It's not all about praising the opposition after matches. While Gerrard may naturally be better technically, Lampard has worked very hard at improving his game and working on his weaknesses to get where he is. You never hear about him fighting in nightclubs or involved in any trouble and it really irritates me to see Gerrard constantly lauded as some sort of hero when Lampard is ridiculed for being fat and crap?!
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Not to get into a my gerrard is bigger then your lampard discussion as obviously Lampard is bigger what with all the pies and stuff ;)

But saying that Lampard is better in a 2 man midfield is bollocks. Why do you think Chelsea have had so much trouble in midfield when Ballack came and Makalele was out injured and any match they have played with just 2 cm. Lampard, like Gerrard performs best in a 3 man midfield so they can run forward and do what they do best. The difference being is that Gerrard has far more movement and takes more responsiblity during a match leaving the midfield more exposed in a 2man midfield. Whereas Lampard does a Lucas and passes 10yards to the side at every oppertunity. The difference, and likely reason "everyone" rates Gerrard higher is that he can grab a game and drag a team back into it, towards the win. He's done loads of times, how many times has Lampard done it? Have to agree with Lampard's workethic personality though, hardly misses a game aswell which can be attributed to keeping yourself in the best condition and not go out on the razz with mates on a tuesday.

As for the game, great performance, the buggers gave me hope twice after I had written them off! Shame Chelsea, and Drogba in particular, felt the need to resort to the Mourinho phase and dive all over the place, T0$$er!

You can see they have played each other 25 times in 5 seasons though, each team knows exactly the strenght and weakness and its making the games more and more open.

Hopefully the performance and result will make them even more hungry for the league.
 
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What a game....

best team won tho...

silver lining is that other 3 teams in top four still playing for at least 2 trophies so may be stretched...
 
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/eseason/LFC-TV/tv.asx

Coverage starts at 10am.

LFC TV is marking today's 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster with a series of specially-commissioned programmes that supporters all over the world can watch on TV or online completely free.

Today, LFC TV, the club's official channel - normally only available to supporters who subscribe to the Setanta Sports package - will be free to everyone who has either Sky Digital or Virgin Media in their homes.

For those supporters who don't have either satellite or cable, won't be at home during the day or live abroad, we are be making all of the TV content available to watch live on the official website completely free.

For the first time ever, the Memorial Service at Anfield will be available to watch live and uninterrupted on TV and for the Hillsborough families who no longer live in this country and fellow supporters from all over the world, the entire service will be shown live on the web as part of today's LFC TV content.

For the families and fans who will actually be attending the service at Anfield and those who can't make it due to work commitments, the entire event will aldo be repeated on LFC TV later in the night.

Here is the full schedule for toady on LFC TV

10:00: What Hillsborough Means to Me - Part 1

Members of the LFC family - current and former players and fans and family members - open up about what the Hillsborough disaster means to them personally.

10:15: A Song for Hillsborough

LFC TV goes behind the scenes at Elevator Studios in Liverpool for the recording of a new specially-commissioned version of 'Fields of Anfield Road'. Peter Hooton, Bruce Grobbelaar and John Power all speak in studio about why they're proud to be involved in the project

10:45: What Hillsborough Means to Me - Part 2

More members of the LFC family - current and former players and fans and family members - open up about what the Hillsborough disaster means to them personally.

11:00: Hillsborough: The Documentary

20 years on from the disaster that cost 96 Liverpool fans their lives, LFC TV remembers the saddest day in the club's history with an updated version our hard-hitting Hillsborough documentary.

12:00: Cup Kings 1989

Ronnie Whelan (club captain in 1989), John Aldridge and radio commentator Graham Beecroft reflect on the road to Wembley for the most emotional cup final ever, including Hillsborough and the aftermath of the disaster back home on Merseyside.

14:30: Live: Hillsborough Memorial Service

Live and uninterrupted coverage from Anfield of the Hillsborough Memorial Service. The service will feature two choirs - the Choir of St Anne Stanley and the Liverpool Singing Choir - readings from Kenny Dalglish and Margaret Aspinall, Vice Chairperson of the Hillsborough Families Support Group and addresses from both the Lord Mayor of Liverpool, Councillor Steve Rotherham and Trevor Hicks, President of the HFSG. The service will conclude with Gerry Marsden and Neal McHale singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone'.

15:45: Poems for the 96

Out of the tragedy that was Hillsborough, some incredibly emotive poetry emerged. Liverpool poet Roger McGough, Dave Kirby, Nicky Allt and others recite some of the most moving poems you'll hear this year.

16:00: Kop Talkin: Hillsborough Special

Three supporters describe their own experiences on the day of the disaster; reflect on how they coped in the day and weeks that followed the tragedy and debate why the fight for justice is still so strong 20 years on.

17:00: What Hillsborough Means to Me - Part Three

More members of the LFC family - current and former players and fans and family members - open up about what the Hillsborough disaster means to them personally.

17:15: What Hillsborough Means to Me - Part 1

Another chance to watch our earlier edition of the show where members of the LFC family open up about what the Hillsborough disaster means to them personally.

17:30: A Song for Hillsborough

LFC TV goes behind the scenes at Elevator Studios in Liverpool for the recording of a new specially-commissioned version of 'Fields of Anfield Road'. The Lord Mayor, Councillor Steve Rotherham, Kenny Dalglish and Phil Thompson all speak in studio about why they’re proud to be involved in the project

18:00: Hillsborough Memorial Service

Another chance to watch the Hillsborough Memorial Service from earlier in the day at Anfield.

19:00: Ray Houghton's Class of 88-89

Former Liverpool star Ray Houghton reflects on the group of players who made the fateful trip to Hillsborough on April 15 and looks back on their season up to and after that fateful day.

20:00: Hillsborough: The Documentary

Another chance to watch the LFC TV's hard-hitting Hillsborough documentary with contributions from the likes of Sheila Coleman, Phil Hammond, Neil Fitzmaurice, Peter Carney, Rogan Taylor, John Barnes and John Aldridge amongst others.

21:00: Parkhead 89: The Fans Story

Three fans - two supporting Liverpool, one supporting Celtic - recall the first match to take place after the Hillsborough disaster on an emotionally charged night in Glasgow.

22:00: Kop Talkin: Hillsborough Special

A repeat showing of this studio discussion for supporters who missed it earlier in the day due to attending the Memorial Service or work commitments.

23:00: Hillsborough Memorial Service

LFC TV's free day of broadcasting ends with the service to remember the 96 supporters who never came home from a game of football.

LFC is available to watch FREE online on this website, on Sky Channel 434 and Virgin Media Channel 544 on April 15.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/eseason/LFC-TV/tv.asx
 
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TikTikTikTikTik said:
You can see they have played each other 25 times in 5 seasons though, each team knows exactly the strenght and weakness and its making the games more and more open.
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This is definitely something I've noticed.

Liverpool and Chelsea fans can complain all they want about getting each other in five consecutive years, but because of this, the games are a hell of a lot better than anything else you might get.
 
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great game gutted about the result, but now we can fully focus on the league
with a fit Gerrard(right decision to leave him out last night).
 
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Liverpool and Chelsea fans can complain all they want about getting each other in five consecutive years, but because of this, the games are a hell of a lot better than anything else you might get.
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And strangely the wins/losses have changed because of it. Liverpool are now pretty "comfortable" in the league matches ( 3 wins and a draw I believe in the last two seasons) yet 2 losses and 2 draws in the cup. It was the other way round before......
 
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Ah, there's just no club like Liverpool.

There isn't a team with more spirit than Liverpool in Europe.

Upwards, and onwards.
 
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Justice for the 96. YNWA. R.I.P

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Some great photos, captures a lot of the emotion from the day. I've watched a few vids on Youtube as well as some of the memorial service, really sad watching and quite upsetting really.
 
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RIP the 96, im glad we wore black armbands tonight, they deserve to be remembered no matter what team you support
 
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:SHOCK:

hes not a player.

The families of the victims have demanded justice for the 96 that died at Hillsboro (i.e people held accountable)

I find it sad how we can quickly jump onto looking at prosecuting police officer for hitting someone at a riot and yet do nothing when 96 people die due to police incompetence. Not only that but denying any role in the tradegy and continued attempts to cover it up.
 
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