The_Special_One
I like Unicorns
Re: Liverpool Thread
If you understand Portuguese...
http://www.rr.pt/bolabranca_detalhe.aspx?fid=77&did=117889
If you understand Portuguese...
http://www.rr.pt/bolabranca_detalhe.aspx?fid=77&did=117889
Liverpool Thread
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UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
actually this wasn't Torres being stopped, he called the police because he was being chased by a photographer who was driving dangerously.
As for these Meireles stories, i'd love them to be true but the last I heard he'd been frozen out at Porto and was signing for Man Utd.
First three points of the season.
actually this wasn't Torres being stopped, he called the police because he was being chased by a photographer who was driving dangerously.
As for these Meireles stories, i'd love them to be true but the last I heard he'd been frozen out at Porto and was signing for Man Utd.
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/27/liverpool-sign-raul-meireles-porto
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/27/liverpool-sign-raul-meireles-porto
mathewsss
Champions League
Re: Liverpool Thread
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/27/liverpool-sign-raul-meireles-porto
Good news....Merielles is on his way.....
for 11 million...not bad...
now if we can get a winger or a backup for Torres in the next 3 days.....things will be looking up !
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/27/liverpool-sign-raul-meireles-porto
Good news....Merielles is on his way.....
for 11 million...not bad...
now if we can get a winger or a backup for Torres in the next 3 days.....things will be looking up !
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Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Apparently you're in for Gary Medel too who is an absolute maniac of a player.
Hope he goes somewhere else.
Apparently you're in for Gary Medel too who is an absolute maniac of a player.
Hope he goes somewhere else.
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
Re: Liverpool Thread
Good player, Reminds me of Fletcher, breaks up play, can go forward and get a couple of goals a season from midfield.
Good player, Reminds me of Fletcher, breaks up play, can go forward and get a couple of goals a season from midfield.
PIPA23
retired :)
- 21 June 2007
Masch, thank you for your stay..
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
No way. Gary Medel is way overrated. Ive seen him play a lot and I can assure you that Lucas is a lot better than him.Apparently you're in for Gary Medel too who is an absolute maniac of a player.
Hope he goes somewhere else.
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
yeh but he's a fucking nutjob, i'd bring him over just to sit staring at the opposition bench each game
yeh but he's a fucking nutjob, i'd bring him over just to sit staring at the opposition bench each game
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Liverpool Thread
Inler is very good!
Raul Meireles is a good player too. Either would be good signings.
Funny part is, Fulham are offloading him and have captured the far superior Carlos Salcido!
They get Moussa Dembele and now Salcido! Liverpool could've improved with signings like that! And they're not exactly breaking the bank either. Good for Fulham and Mark Hughes!
Konchesky is a mediocre player. Average EPL quality. The fact that Hodgson worked with him last year and trusts him is the only reason I think he's gonna play for a team like Liverpool.
Inler is very good!
Raul Meireles is a good player too. Either would be good signings.
Funny part is, Fulham are offloading him and have captured the far superior Carlos Salcido!
They get Moussa Dembele and now Salcido! Liverpool could've improved with signings like that! And they're not exactly breaking the bank either. Good for Fulham and Mark Hughes!
Konchesky is a mediocre player. Average EPL quality. The fact that Hodgson worked with him last year and trusts him is the only reason I think he's gonna play for a team like Liverpool.
mathewsss
Champions League
Re: Liverpool Thread
Hey PLF....
how are the Inter players liking Rafa ?
And how about the media?
Bad start in the super cup....Atletico yet again proving a thorn to
Rafa's side.
Hey PLF....
how are the Inter players liking Rafa ?
And how about the media?
Bad start in the super cup....Atletico yet again proving a thorn to
Rafa's side.
airjoca
International
Re: Liverpool Thread
I'm guessing:
_____Mascherano______
Xavi_________Busquets
Messi__Villa__Iniesta
I'm guessing:
_____Mascherano______
Xavi_________Busquets
Messi__Villa__Iniesta
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
I agree both those would improve Liverpool's squad. I think the reason Hodgson has gone for Konchesky (other than the fact he knows him well) is because he's aware of the lack of English players in Liverpool's squad and is mindful of that when signing players so he can meet the new quota system that has come in.
I agree both those would improve Liverpool's squad. I think the reason Hodgson has gone for Konchesky (other than the fact he knows him well) is because he's aware of the lack of English players in Liverpool's squad and is mindful of that when signing players so he can meet the new quota system that has come in.
D
DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Our English players are probably the same as most teams in the league though? Gerrard, Carragher, Cole, Johnson, Kelly, and Brad Jones. Then there's Spearing, Darby, Shelvey and Danny Wilson who's Scottish. So not sure we needed Konchesky and that his nationality comes into it?
Our English players are probably the same as most teams in the league though? Gerrard, Carragher, Cole, Johnson, Kelly, and Brad Jones. Then there's Spearing, Darby, Shelvey and Danny Wilson who's Scottish. So not sure we needed Konchesky and that his nationality comes into it?
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Well you can register a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players out of 25, and unlimited under 21's.
Kelly and Shelvey are only 20 and 18 so don't need to be registered. There's no point wasting a squad spot on him if you can fill it with somebody else more experienced and still play the youngsters too.
Wilson is Scottish so doesn't count. He's only 18 anyway so you can play him for 3 years before you have to register him. I'm not sure if he'll count as homegrown by the end of that 3 years though as he was already past his 18th birthday when he signed for you but I'm not 100% how that rule works.
Spearing and Darby aren't exactly first team material and would be taking up better players space. Realistically you've only got 6 homegrown players registered so Hodgson will want to fill those spaces.
Well you can register a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players out of 25, and unlimited under 21's.
Kelly and Shelvey are only 20 and 18 so don't need to be registered. There's no point wasting a squad spot on him if you can fill it with somebody else more experienced and still play the youngsters too.
Wilson is Scottish so doesn't count. He's only 18 anyway so you can play him for 3 years before you have to register him. I'm not sure if he'll count as homegrown by the end of that 3 years though as he was already past his 18th birthday when he signed for you but I'm not 100% how that rule works.
Spearing and Darby aren't exactly first team material and would be taking up better players space. Realistically you've only got 6 homegrown players registered so Hodgson will want to fill those spaces.
VanderVoort
Més que un club
- 29 May 2010
Re: Liverpool Thread
Messi doens't play on the wing anymore, most probably attack its that
Pedro--Messi---Villa
YNWA.
Messi doens't play on the wing anymore, most probably attack its that
Pedro--Messi---Villa
YNWA.
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yes, but to these southamerican guys all that seems to matter when the go to Europe is making money and parting. Except quality players or others that are the exception of that rule like Lucas, we should stay away of them.yeh but he's a fucking nutjob, i'd bring him over just to sit staring at the opposition bench each game
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bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Liverpool Thread
Livebird talking about S. Americans . What`s wit ur avatar Where aquaman go so does his ________ ? 
Livebird talking about S. Americans . What`s wit ur avatar
Where aquaman go so does his ________ ?
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
And about southamericans, as you can imagine I am southamerican and knows us very well. Most of southamericans when they go to Europe, they forget about loyalty to the fans and to the club, and only care about money, parties and women.
Why ? Im not enlgish, Im argentinian. As I have an Enlish team that is Liverpool, I also have always been from Valencia in Spain and from Juventus in Italy. But my european team is and will always be Liverpool. Plus, the guy in my avatar is Pinturicchio and since Aquilani is never going to play again for Liverpool, I didnt see the point in having him in my avatar.Livebird talking about S. Americans . What`s wit ur avatar
And about southamericans, as you can imagine I am southamerican and knows us very well. Most of southamericans when they go to Europe, they forget about loyalty to the fans and to the club, and only care about money, parties and women.
bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Liverpool Thread
yeah, I know ur location hence referring to loyalty as you have Juve as supposedly for aguaman`s new team as now ur team. btw just aving a go brah! I thought you would get the joke! you talking about South Americans n their loyalty as you traded a pool avatar for a juve one
yeah, I know ur location hence referring to loyalty as you have Juve as supposedly for aguaman`s new team as now ur team. btw just aving a go brah! I thought you would get the joke! you talking about South Americans n their loyalty as you traded a pool avatar for a juve one
TikTikTikTikTik
*****
- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
I thought it was Del Piero.......
I thought it was Del Piero.......
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
Ok, fair enough. Anyway, Im from Juve in Italy since Marcelo Salas went there.yeah, I know ur location hence referring to loyalty as you have Juve as supposedly for aguaman`s new team as now ur team. btw just aving a go brah! I thought you would get the joke! you talking about South Americans n their loyalty as you traded a pool avatar for a juve one
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Raul Meireles officially signs for Liverpool for €14m (£11.4m).
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-complete-meireles-deal
Got to be honest, i'm delighted with this, we've finally replaced Alonso. He's more consistent than Aquilani and is stronger. Maybe letting him go to Juve wasn't such a bad idea after all...
Raul Meireles officially signs for Liverpool for €14m (£11.4m).
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-complete-meireles-deal
Got to be honest, i'm delighted with this, we've finally replaced Alonso. He's more consistent than Aquilani and is stronger. Maybe letting him go to Juve wasn't such a bad idea after all...
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Liverpool Thread
He's not a play-maker. Don't know if he can be called a replacement for Alonso or Aquilani who are both not only different from each other but very different from Meireles as well. Don't really see the comparison other than all playing as central midfielders.
The latter two like to get the ball distribute the ball all over the pitch and can be called play-makers and have outstanding vision and passing abilities. Raul Meireles does some of that but that's not really his main quality. He brings a lot of other things to the table though. And Lots of Energy as well! Good player overall. One I definitely rate. But not for his vision/passing particularly though it's decent enough.
He's not a play-maker. Don't know if he can be called a replacement for Alonso or Aquilani who are both not only different from each other but very different from Meireles as well. Don't really see the comparison other than all playing as central midfielders.
The latter two like to get the ball distribute the ball all over the pitch and can be called play-makers and have outstanding vision and passing abilities. Raul Meireles does some of that but that's not really his main quality. He brings a lot of other things to the table though. And Lots of Energy as well! Good player overall. One I definitely rate. But not for his vision/passing particularly though it's decent enough.
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
But he is not a replacemente to Xabi Alonso. As PLF said he is a different kind of player and was not the playmaker of Porto.
Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
He's all action. A bit like Fletcher for us.
He's all action. A bit like Fletcher for us.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeah, that's more like it.
Yeah, that's more like it.
TikTikTikTikTik
*****
- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
From what I saw of him in the WC he looked a good player. Glad to see the club had him on standby the whole time.
From what I saw of him in the WC he looked a good player. Glad to see the club had him on standby the whole time.
D
DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Roy Hodgson shows forward thinking by signing Raul Meireles for £10.7m
By the hyper-inflated standards of football's age of excess, the £10.7 million Liverpool will pay FC Porto for Raúl Meireles is barely enough to cause a ripple in the transfer market. Its impact, though, could be seismic.
By Rory Smith
Published: 11:00PM BST 28 Aug 2010
Three months after Rafael Benítez was deposed from his Anfield throne, Roy Hodgson's template for Liverpool's renaissance is becoming apparent.
To assert that Meireles, a Portuguese international of considerable repute and, at 27, in the prime of his career, will be a success in the Premier League is to indulge in astrology, but his arrival does at least indicate that Hodgson has identified the weakness which ultimately cost Liverpool their status among Europe's elite and his predecessor his job.
What Liverpool have lacked in recent years – even when the midfield axis of Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso was at its destructive, creative best – is dynamism.
Moving Steven Gerrard into an advanced trequartista role behind Fernando Torres elicited the best from the England international, but came at the cost of robbing Liverpool of impetus from deep, of the thrust particularly vital in the frenetic world of the Premier League.
That is exactly what Meireles provides. First for Boavista, then for Porto and Portugal, his role has been to prompt attacks, not with the range of passing that makes Alonso such a rare gem, but with his relentless energy, his movement, his thrust. Whereas the Basque controlled space, Meireles fills it. If he can replicate the form which earned him the move, the Portuguese will bring an end to the sight of Liverpool lost in stasis.
It is too soon, of course, to suggest that a pairing of Meireles and Christian Poulsen, another new arrival, are suitable heirs for the players so long – and, judging by their new employers, rightly – proclaimed by the Kop as the best midfield in the world. As a duo, though, they possess the characteristics to thrive.
Whereas Mascherano is an attack dog of a midfield player, hunting down and ruthlessly eliminating his targets, Poulsen exists to guard, patrolling in front of the back four, positioning himself and picking off danger. The Dane will control Liverpool's shape, switch the angles of attack. He will play in the horizontal. Meireles adds a vertical element.
Despite the failed flirtation with 4-4-2 at Eastlands, Hodgson seems likely to employ his two most recent signings in the 4-2-3-1 with which the bulk of his squad are familiar. Gerrard will return to his role behind Torres, with the bustle of Dirk Kuyt or the finesse of Maxi Rodríguez on the right.
Joe Cole will, nominally, be stationed on the left, but it is an article of faith with Hodgson to allow his wide players a degree of fluidity. There will be no restrictions on the England player's freedom of movement, as there were in those days at Chelsea where he struggled to impose his authority on games. Liverpool's most naturally gifted technician ought not to be sacrificed.
Yet while the capture of Meireles – and Paul Konchesky, who arrived on Merseyside for a medical on Saturday ahead of a £3 million move – provide an answer to where Liverpool are heading on the pitch, they serve as a reminder that only questions remain off it.
Most poignant, as the transfer window draws to a close, is the inquiry as to why Hodgson's revolution did not begin to take shape until the final weekend of August. He was, after all, supposed to have £12 million to spend upon taking the job, plus whatever money is raised through sales, currently £16 million.
When Mascherano, who arrived in Barcelona on Saturday for his medical, signs for the Spanish champions, the total sum supposedly available to Hodgson should stand at £50 million. Yet the captures of Meireles and Konchesky take the club's outlay this summer to £24.2 million. As always at Liverpool, something does not add up.
Since Benítez decided to sell Robbie Keane back to Tottenham for £16 million in January 2009, Liverpool have recouped some £80 million in sales.
Mascherano's departure will take that figure to £102 million. The Spaniard and Hodgson between them have spent just £59.8 million, when Meireles and Konchesky are factored in, in the last 18 months.
At a club where both Tom Hicks, the co-owner, and Christian Purslow, the managing director, have asserted that the "player fund" is sacrosanct, in theory Hodgson should have £40 million burning a hole in his pocket. It is safe to assume he does not.
For all that Meireles represents a coup for Liverpool, a putsch is required before Hodgson's renaissance can truly take hold.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...nking-by-signing-Raul-Meireles-for-10.7m.html
Roy Hodgson shows forward thinking by signing Raul Meireles for £10.7m
By the hyper-inflated standards of football's age of excess, the £10.7 million Liverpool will pay FC Porto for Raúl Meireles is barely enough to cause a ripple in the transfer market. Its impact, though, could be seismic.
By Rory Smith
Published: 11:00PM BST 28 Aug 2010
Three months after Rafael Benítez was deposed from his Anfield throne, Roy Hodgson's template for Liverpool's renaissance is becoming apparent.
To assert that Meireles, a Portuguese international of considerable repute and, at 27, in the prime of his career, will be a success in the Premier League is to indulge in astrology, but his arrival does at least indicate that Hodgson has identified the weakness which ultimately cost Liverpool their status among Europe's elite and his predecessor his job.
What Liverpool have lacked in recent years – even when the midfield axis of Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso was at its destructive, creative best – is dynamism.
Moving Steven Gerrard into an advanced trequartista role behind Fernando Torres elicited the best from the England international, but came at the cost of robbing Liverpool of impetus from deep, of the thrust particularly vital in the frenetic world of the Premier League.
That is exactly what Meireles provides. First for Boavista, then for Porto and Portugal, his role has been to prompt attacks, not with the range of passing that makes Alonso such a rare gem, but with his relentless energy, his movement, his thrust. Whereas the Basque controlled space, Meireles fills it. If he can replicate the form which earned him the move, the Portuguese will bring an end to the sight of Liverpool lost in stasis.
It is too soon, of course, to suggest that a pairing of Meireles and Christian Poulsen, another new arrival, are suitable heirs for the players so long – and, judging by their new employers, rightly – proclaimed by the Kop as the best midfield in the world. As a duo, though, they possess the characteristics to thrive.
Whereas Mascherano is an attack dog of a midfield player, hunting down and ruthlessly eliminating his targets, Poulsen exists to guard, patrolling in front of the back four, positioning himself and picking off danger. The Dane will control Liverpool's shape, switch the angles of attack. He will play in the horizontal. Meireles adds a vertical element.
Despite the failed flirtation with 4-4-2 at Eastlands, Hodgson seems likely to employ his two most recent signings in the 4-2-3-1 with which the bulk of his squad are familiar. Gerrard will return to his role behind Torres, with the bustle of Dirk Kuyt or the finesse of Maxi Rodríguez on the right.
Joe Cole will, nominally, be stationed on the left, but it is an article of faith with Hodgson to allow his wide players a degree of fluidity. There will be no restrictions on the England player's freedom of movement, as there were in those days at Chelsea where he struggled to impose his authority on games. Liverpool's most naturally gifted technician ought not to be sacrificed.
Yet while the capture of Meireles – and Paul Konchesky, who arrived on Merseyside for a medical on Saturday ahead of a £3 million move – provide an answer to where Liverpool are heading on the pitch, they serve as a reminder that only questions remain off it.
Most poignant, as the transfer window draws to a close, is the inquiry as to why Hodgson's revolution did not begin to take shape until the final weekend of August. He was, after all, supposed to have £12 million to spend upon taking the job, plus whatever money is raised through sales, currently £16 million.
When Mascherano, who arrived in Barcelona on Saturday for his medical, signs for the Spanish champions, the total sum supposedly available to Hodgson should stand at £50 million. Yet the captures of Meireles and Konchesky take the club's outlay this summer to £24.2 million. As always at Liverpool, something does not add up.
Since Benítez decided to sell Robbie Keane back to Tottenham for £16 million in January 2009, Liverpool have recouped some £80 million in sales.
Mascherano's departure will take that figure to £102 million. The Spaniard and Hodgson between them have spent just £59.8 million, when Meireles and Konchesky are factored in, in the last 18 months.
At a club where both Tom Hicks, the co-owner, and Christian Purslow, the managing director, have asserted that the "player fund" is sacrosanct, in theory Hodgson should have £40 million burning a hole in his pocket. It is safe to assume he does not.
For all that Meireles represents a coup for Liverpool, a putsch is required before Hodgson's renaissance can truly take hold.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...nking-by-signing-Raul-Meireles-for-10.7m.html
Milanista
Mangiamoli!
Re: Liverpool Thread
I know what the guy is trying to say about Gerrard, but imo that's the wrong use of the word trequartista! Why has it suddenly become a common term within English football language!?
Good signing by the way, but I can't help but think your offense is still a little light in terms of depth.
I know what the guy is trying to say about Gerrard, but imo that's the wrong use of the word trequartista! Why has it suddenly become a common term within English football language!?
Good signing by the way, but I can't help but think your offense is still a little light in terms of depth.