FIFA 19 Videos & Pictures

[papinho81]

No!

 

[Chris Davies]

Sorry to bump the thread.

Judging by the positivity here would you guys say FIFA 19 is one of the best?

No!

16's great. I loved 17 (had my longest career in a FIFA game), but find it too fast now. Wasn't mad on 18, the AI were too ping-pong for my liking (as soon as you played anyone better than you). 19... There was a period of time when I adored it, but I couldn't remember why.

Looking back at how organic some of the moments on the last page are (my clip, and Matt10's clips especially - and one of yours @geeeeee, where the keeper goes bananas but it looks totally authentic), I remember why now.

For some, 18 is the "point of no return" with FIFA - I think for me it was 20. I tried to force myself to play it and enjoy it, and only managed bursts. Then 21 came along and just confirmed that offline gamers mean nothing to them any more; who wants humanised AI...

Generally I think most people's order of greatness would be 16, then 17, then maybe 14? (18 if you really want to play the World Cup DLC, but prepare to get angry when you get to a semi final and the AI plays psychic ping-pong passing).

For me it's probably 16, then 19, then 17, then 14 (but 14 purely because of rhe amazing retro patch available for it).

 

[Anth James]

16's great. I loved 17 (had my longest career in a FIFA game), but find it too fast now. Wasn't mad on 18, the AI were too ping-pong for my liking (as soon as you played anyone better than you). 19... There was a period of time when I adored it, but I couldn't remember why.

Looking back at how organic some of the moments on the last page are (my clip, and Matt10's clips especially - and one of yours @geeeeee, where the keeper goes bananas but it looks totally authentic), I remember why now.

For some, 18 is the "point of no return" with FIFA - I think for me it was 20. I tried to force myself to play it and enjoy it, and only managed bursts. Then 21 came along and just confirmed that offline gamers mean nothing to them any more; who wants humanised AI...

Generally I think most people's order of greatness would be 16, then 17, then maybe 14? (18 if you really want to play the World Cup DLC, but prepare to get angry when you get to a semi final and the AI plays psychic ping-pong passing).

For me it's probably 16, then 19, then 17, then 14 (but 14 purely because of rhe amazing retro patch available for it).

19 v1.00 is actually a lot different to the latest version of 19 as well. I quite enjoy that. It's a lot slower, ball physics are heavier and the animations are smoother. Unfortunately I can't seem to get Frosty working with it though.

 

[Redhat]

I thoroughly enjoyed 19 at release (prior to the update in October). Granted, some elements were fundamentally broken at launch like the frequency of overhead kicks. It was one of my favorite FIFA experiences in a long time. What really appealed to me was how loose it felt, especially the dribbling against the AI. The CPU would dive in, get caught flat-footed and stick a leg out, slip, hopelessly try to grab you as you skipped past them. Infinitely better than anything I've seen from the past few entries. Like Anth said, the ball and players felt heavier even if it still had the ol' wonky FIFA animations.

I feel like they compeltely neutered all of the aforementioned "feel" with their subsequent updates. By the end of FIFA 19's life cycle, I wasn't a big fan. It turned into an inferior game, but what's new. I'd still much rather play that than FIFA 20/21.

 

[papinho81]

I have given it a fair chance not so long ago and thought for some time it could be the "lost" game (playing with the vanilla version (well not really vanilla as it requires a hum to be launched and I am not sure on which version the hum is based on)).

In summary I would say, playing FIFA19 is like pushing your left stick into mud, against an AI that plays pinball for the most part (on higher difficulties).

 

[Redhat]

I have given it a fair chance not so long ago and thought for some time it could be the "lost" game (playing with the vanilla version (well not really vanilla as it requires a hum to be launched and I am not sure on which version the hum is based on)).

In summary I would say, playing FIFA19 is like pushing your left stick into mud, against an AI that plays pinball for the most part (on higher difficulties).

Left-stick into mud in what sense, player control? Responsiveness? Dribbling? Defense?

 

[Emroth]

19 was the first one that came with zero physicality, no fouls, not even hand balls. Every few games I remember checking settings to make sure I have hand balls on, hoping ill get a free kick out of that at least.
I was fucking disgusted with 19 and it was one of my shortest adventures with Fifa.

 

[rockstrongo]

A game where the CPU , in best case scenario playa it sideways->forward.
Never ever back ,never ever building anything up.
I really hate this game ,played a few games couple of weeks back.
18 is a masterpiece Vs this.

 

[geeeeee]

I‘ll take that as a no then.

 

[papinho81]

Left-stick into mud in what sense, player control? Responsiveness? Dribbling? Defense?

In terms of explosiveness or the lack of. Whether I am trying to do a small side move with the ball, a knock on, or moving a defender. Its is responsive, things are happening but without much explosiveness. It also looks weird and the animations often doesn't fit the thing the player is doing. It looks like the feet of the players are ahead of the head and the shoulders (, shampoo commercial inserted).
In comparison the demo had a explosiveness, but all the version I played really lacked it and it went worse with the updated version.

Passing on manual setting also feel muddy with all kind of low power passes. I do like the physics of well hit passes though.

 

[Anth James]

In terms of explosiveness or the lack of. Whether I am trying to do a small side move with the ball, a knock on, or moving a defender. Its is responsive, things are happening but without much explosiveness. It also looks weird and the animations often doesn't fit the thing the player is doing. It looks like the feet of the players are ahead of the head and the shoulders (, shampoo commercial inserted).
In comparison the demo had a explosiveness, but all the version I played really lacked it and it went worse with the updated version.

Passing on manual setting also feel muddy with all kind of low power passes. I do like the physics of well hit passes though.

I noticed the exact same thing with manual passing yesterday when I fired it up. Manual is much better on 17.

 

[Madmac79]

I'll go against the crowd, some months ago I tried it again without much faith and actually LOVED it despite the many flaws. I ended up doing an unexpected full immersion.. played like 7-8 career seasons back to back, culminating in my longest adventure in the mode in a Fifa ever. Now I'm kinda busy and it will probably be a big write up, but I think I'll do a mini review and post some clips I recorded in the weekend.

 

[Chris Davies]

19 was the first one that came with zero physicality, no fouls, not even hand balls. Every few games I remember checking settings to make sure I have hand balls on, hoping ill get a free kick out of that at least.

That's true. I wonder if their goal is to take away one "boring" bit of the game every year. First it was fouls, then footplanting, then defending altogether.

The other thing that put me off - I remembered last night when I was tossing and turning because of the heatwave - was the difficulty level.

19 was great at first, but then in Career Mode your players would get HUGE attribute boosts after a few weeks, and Legendary was too easy anyway. Add in those stat boosts and it was a waste of time.

Initially I remember thinking "this is great, for FIFA 20 I hope they just fix the insane boosts and the difficulty level". Then they patched it to death and it got worse and worse, and when 20 came out, it was an awful game and the boosts were even bigger.

Such a shame. I even made a YouTube playlist of all the great moments I had with FIFA 19.

I mean, bloody hell, check out these highlights. Look at all the different types of shots, the unique ball contacts - and the goalkeepers who don't just save everything. The goals just look so authentic. Damn. FIFA used to have so much potential. It's fucking criminal what they've done to it.

I don't even think that the mishit animation at the end of the video is in the game any more...

 

[manmachine]

I'll go against the crowd, some months ago I tried it again without much faith and actually LOVED it despite the many flaws. I ended up doing an unexpected full immersion.. played like 7-8 career seasons back to back, culminating in my longest adventure in the mode in a Fifa ever. Now I'm kinda busy and it will probably be a big write up, but I think I'll do a mini review and post some clips I recorded in the weekend.

You're playing with lower rated teams/leagues aren't you?

19 was very pay to win. It's like a different game if you can avoid strong teams in higher difficulties. They're not human at all, lol.

In any case, I'm one of those who can never re-install and stick with any fifa past 17, I know I'll hit the same walls. I'm curious though.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

19 was the first one that came with zero physicality, no fouls, not even hand balls. Every few games I remember checking settings to make sure I have hand balls on, hoping ill get a free kick out of that at least.
I was fucking disgusted with 19 and it was one of my shortest adventures with Fifa.

I'm the same. First few games of 19 and I was looking around for Jezza Beadle to confirm it was a prank. He'd been dead for about 10 years by then so it would've been one hell of a jape.

It had a cartoonish, physics-free quality. The ball and players moved, frictionless, around the pitch and the sky. The first update patched out some of the Shaolin Soccer elements but it was still dead to me by Christmas.

Two years earlier I'd played FIFA to death from release day to the following summer. Two years later I wasn't even buying FIFA.

 

[Redhat]

I noticed the exact same thing with manual passing yesterday when I fired it up. Manual is much better on 17.

I've said it many times, but for me, manual passing is "broken" starting with FIFA 18 and onward. The last time it felt right was FIFA 17. Clearly not an engine issue since FIFA 17 utilized Frostbite. It's night and day when I go back to previous titles.

Again, I just really enjoyed the dribbling. I made this video in 2018 to showcase how flat-footed the CPU can be at times (in a good way, of course).


20 seconds in you can see me get dropped and then another one right after that. Both called. This was by far the most consistent way to draw fouls, but unfortunately, it's a very specific way. If the avenue to achieve fouls is not all encompassing when it's appropriate, then it's a poorly implemented system. 1:01 is still one of my favorites because I can't recall many occasions where the CPU defenders collide into each other due to confusion. Love it.

 

[Anth James]

I've said it many times, but for me, manual passing is "broken" starting with FIFA 18 and onward. The last time it felt right was FIFA 17. Clearly not an engine issue since FIFA 17 utilized Frostbite. It's night and day when I go back to previous titles.

Yes 100% agree.

 

[Anth James]

@papinho81 What is the version we both downloaded of 19? It's an early release but not 1.00?

 

[papinho81]

@papinho81 What is the version we both downloaded of 19? It's an early release but not 1.00?

Everything except the exe is v1.0, but the meh exe is from end November, so we don't know on what version it is built on.

 

[papinho81]

I've said it many times, but for me, manual passing is "broken" starting with FIFA 18 and onward. The last time it felt right was FIFA 17. Clearly not an engine issue since FIFA 17 utilized Frostbite. It's night and day when I go back to previous titles.

Again, I just really enjoyed the dribbling. I made this video in 2018 to showcase how flat-footed the CPU can be at times (in a good way, of course).


20 seconds in you can see me get dropped and then another one right after that. Both called. This was by far the most consistent way to draw fouls, but unfortunately, it's a very specific way. If the avenue to achieve fouls is not all encompassing when it's appropriate, then it's a poorly implemented system. 1:01 is still one of my favorites because I can't recall many occasions where the CPU defenders collide into each other due to confusion. Love it.

It is actually after watching your videos from back then that I wanted to revisit FIFA19. Great videos!

 

[Madmac79]

You're playing with lower rated teams/leagues aren't you?

19 was very pay to win. It's like a different game if you can avoid strong teams in higher difficulties. They're not human at all, lol.

In any case, I'm one of those who can never re-install and stick with any fifa past 17, I know I'll hit the same walls. I'm curious though.

I started with a low Serie A team (Parma) and more or less gradually built it up as a powerhouse.

Yeah, big teams are somewhat problematic, but once I had a good eleven myself it turned into fun (although it took me a while- but I found the grind fun). The fact I remember it as piss easy, but with sliders more or less on default was actually incredibly hard, was part of the charm to me.

In any case, I think 16/17 are globally better games of football, no question here. I'm not particularly interested in changing minds about 19 even cause I think there are good reasons to dislike it, if you do. But, as I said, despite those reasons I just happened to have a fuckton of fun on it anyway and of course I'll share it from my perspective. I'll expand more when I'll do the big post in some days .

 

[rockstrongo]

Again, I just really enjoyed the dribbling. I made this video in 2018 to showcase how flat-footed the CPU can be at times (in a good way, of course).

I remember dribbling being very good in this game Vs previous games ,really enjoyed it!

was the difficulty

That's also a weird one ,remember that both WC and LEG were really crap in this game ,but the time I enjoyed with this game I played it on Ultimate difficulty ,and it played really good ,still have a few saves on it ,that has a tough but pretty fair AI ,problem is that the CPU are too one dimensional ,just going fw ,never ever sits back.
Weird game this.
Enjoyed it for two three seasons then going back to older games ,and hated it when returning back to it!

 

[Anth James]

Playing it now....

 

[rockstrongo]

Playing it now....

 

[Madmac79]

So, about my recent adventure on 19.

It started when I stumbled in an old career of a youtuber I follow. My biggest turn off playing this particular edition always has been that it felt too easy, at any kind of difficulty level. Yet this guy was having his butt kicked hard, here and there.

Then, in search for some novelty, I decided to install it once again. Can't remember which sliders I had on, but it didn't took too long to identify that they clearly were the problem: whatever better rythm they gave me, they destroyed any CPU competitivity. And the guy above played it all on default.

Given this, I started a career with Parma at Legendary with more or less all on default as well, aside from injuries and some other few things and well.. was hooked from the get go.

Results wise, the first few seasons were straight up miserable. My team being piss poor, CPU being ruthless with normal teams and almost impossible to play with top ones, the grind for points was quite hard, but very enjoyable all the same (will expand on the gameplay later). Playing a 3-4-1-2, I remember avoiding relegation only in the last few matches in my first season, and then ending up middle of the table or slightly lower in the subsequent 2-3 ones- only really appreciable transfer being Tonali (who's the only guy, togheter with Cardoso, a brazilian cb from the youths, I brought up to the lowest from the highest, being my captain till the very end and developing into a monster cmf).

Then I kinda got a bit impatient, as building up a stronger team realistically would have took me too much (remember I'm certainly NOT a career expert, I indeed discovered many things just by this run, which was by far my longest), so I started exploiting a bit january renewals, bringing in, among the others, Kessie, Schlager and Christensen.

And then it all started making sense. Finally I was beating lower teams consistently, arriving in the Coppa Italia final (and losing) and qualifying for the Champions League. Then the last two seasons were the most epic ones- I had a team mixed of strong youth players and popular champions like Alisson, Alexander Arnold, Delle Alli, Kane, Gabriel Jesus, Haland, Vinicius Junior and De Light among the others, and other pupils of mine with lesser overalls, but which I was too fond of (left fullback Kelly being my best example, not even Firpo or Theo Hernandez could stole his place, and Schlager.. loved him to death). Finally won Scudetto (decisive match in the derby against Bologna, although unfortunately they were too poor and didn't stand much of a chance) and Coppa Italia, even tho Real eliminated me from CL in the 16th. Felt like the perfect closure to the whole journey, being a powerhouse but still having losses and very well fought matches. Left it in the sequent season, when I had 3 points on the second Fiorentina (and 8 matches left) and I was about to face Barcelona in the CL quarters, probably the best team in the career. Don't know if I'll retake it in future, I doubt it could get any better. Maybe I'll start another one with some personal clear challenge.

Some more general notes on it all:

-It created sub rivalities and matches I was looking forward due to that. Some examples- players who would give me hell, like Inaki Williams in Napoli, Dybala in Juve, Wilson in Fiorentina, Richarlison in Milan or my Milinkovic Savic in Lazio who, on top of his development, felt like playing against a cheat, more or less always scoring against me and winning any single midfeld duel. I was also tempted to buy him but always decided to leave him in Lazio for the fun of it.. then the lovely fucker decides to go to Barça . Given I should have had to face them, it would have been an even more epic clash just for this.

-Some players, exactly like in glory days Pes, I couldn't use even if they had crazy overalls, like Romagnoli or Fabian Ruiz. Some others, like Kelly and Schlager, or the same Haaland which stayed around 82, never developed in powerhouses but I always felt at home playing them. Christensen wasn't as strong as youth Cardoso or De Light, yet always made me feel he was the more "intelligent" one, perfectly keeping his position and helping me immensely reading defensive situations.

-It created A LOT of epic moments. Like when I beaten Juventus for the first time in I think 4 or 5 season, Or like for example here: Napoli was between my main enemies for the title. I was winning 1-0, but they were closing me in my box.. it culminated in them hitting that post and me punishing their error with that perfect counter attack finalized by G. Jesus, which made me literally jump from my seat. Ended up winning 2-1 and probably won a large chunk of Scudetto that day.

-Some objectives are straight up broken, like the ones in which you have to play youngsters. But luckily it never got me fired.

Generally, hope it won't sound as a blasphemy, but this whole build up reminded me the days of my Pes 5 ML with Chelsea, when I grinded for titles with everything I had. It was hella fun and it written a virtual football story like I didn't read in a long time, which will certainly stay among my favourites ever. Keep in mind that as I said above I never had a career as long as this one (Fifa 19 ended up being my second most played after 16 just for this), so there was a certain fresh element in it.

Regarding the gameplay:

Yeah, rythm is bad, especially without many sliders tweaks. I wouldn't say there isn't midfield play but it's all very flipperesque, especially in some matches, against determined teams. As you can already expect there aren't also that many free kicks, although I had some and luckily I also had a decent number of penalties. Also scoring headers is quite hard- not has hard as in 20, but you need a specialist in headers and also a good crosser to have some kind of consistency in it.
Then with the things I particularly liked. For first, the goal variety: superb. Shooting is very satisfying and I casually scored myriad of different kind of goals without forcing myself to. Stats representation is good as well: I think few things excites me more in a football career than appreciating replacing bad players with good ones, and seeing the tangible effect on the field. Just to name one, the moment I replaced my youths keeper with Alisson made all the difference in the world. Or the crosses I scored when I put in A.A, or the solidity Kessie gave me to midfield. One critic could go to pace, which is indeed sometimes hard to spot on average, but really fast players like Vinicius Junior or G. Jesus do stand out a lot, so I guess it's acceptable to me. Don't forget this is also the last chapter without one v one nonsense and midfielders not tracking.

Regarding CPU.. it's tiki takaish for sure, but with one big exception: star players do stand out, even if in bursts. Good strikers will score you more, good shooters will nail it often, one vs one specialists will take it on you dangerously. I added two examples in this hghlights in 0:38 and 1:43 of what good dribblers might do (even if I wished I saved more stuff from the AI):

The rest are scrappy goals of mine or nice random moments I felt like showing especially from my first seasons. I have some stuff from more recent ones, will probably put it togheter some other time.

I'll end this already lenghty post with a consideration: as I said some days ago here, I don't want to change peoples mind on the game.. you hated it, you most probably still gonna hate it after all I written. You could find another thousand flaws in it and I'd probably agree with most of them. But to me in that particular moment it was the perfect mix between some simulation/depth and some fast action. I just happened to love the small moments of football it gave me and the narrative it generated, and felt like sharing it. But on a general note, given I had this retake when I took a pause from Evo Web, I have to admit: I probably wouldn't have played it if I had read the general opinion about it here. Sometimes I wonder how much negative opinions (or just general ones) influence how we approach a game, regardless of this one.

That said, thanks if you arrived in the end and sorry fo the prolixity, hope it was readable.

 

[rockstrongo]

Holy fucking crap!

Big thanks to Krebstar for his sliders ,works excellent , especially on broadcast cam ,a lot of scrappy midfield play , misplaced passes .

 

[papinho81]

I scored that goal yesterday. I liked the strike but even more the assist with outside of the foot of Coutinho.
The Arthur pass, earlier in the sequence, looks bad. Like only the part of the leg from the knee to the toe is moving, and that power...



It can look weird at times but I am enjoying playing it (early version, @bsmaff would it worth storing it on your google drive?).
I like the variety in the CPU teams approaches. On legendary I have hard time winning against good to very good teams, even using big guns (actually loosing most of the time) but I am starting to get the hang at it.

 

[papinho81]

I keep coming back to this game for in general sporadic runs, but I have massively updated my hardware, I find the game more enjoyable.

Here is a short video of an attacking move that was quite satisfying to put together:



PS: I am still playing with an early build.

 

[Anth James]

I keep coming back to this game for in general sporadic runs, but I have massively updated my hardware, I find the game more enjoyable.

Here is a short video of an attacking move that was quite satisfying to put together:



PS: I am still playing with an early build.

Are you on the annual 'World Tour' again Pap?!

 

[papinho81]

Are you on the annual 'World Tour' again Pap?!

Kind of, but not exactly. There is a few I know I won't touch (14, 15, 18, 20:22).