FIFA 14 OT, Next Gen, PC Love, Fanboys, Star Wars, Hand Sanitizers
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_anderson
Retired Fanboy
Re: FIFA 14
Pretty sure I saw it mentioned somewhere that the NG one wasn't going to be released until next year.
Pretty sure I saw it mentioned somewhere that the NG one wasn't going to be released until next year.
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
Re: FIFA 14
Next gen FIFA may be released around April for the world cup game...
Next gen FIFA may be released around April for the world cup game...
brunnoce
World Cup Winner
Re: FIFA 14
They said before christmas, My guess is that the current gen(360/ps3) will be released normally at September`s last tuesday while next gen might be a launch title with the new consoles.
They said before christmas, My guess is that the current gen(360/ps3) will be released normally at September`s last tuesday while next gen might be a launch title with the new consoles.
The Doctor76
Premier League
Re: FIFA 14
I expect to see a significant difference. Significant enough for me to go back over to PES, that's for sure - especially as the latter is going to have a brand new engine.
I expect to see a significant difference. Significant enough for me to go back over to PES, that's for sure - especially as the latter is going to have a brand new engine.
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Re: FIFA 14
yeah deffo, the fox engine could look super nice but if it still has dumb keepers and a through ball fest with crappy sound then there really is no point..plus we dont know yet if it can be editable which at the moment is PES's only saving grace
Good luck with that
yeah deffo, the fox engine could look super nice but if it still has dumb keepers and a through ball fest with crappy sound then there really is no point..plus we dont know yet if it can be editable which at the moment is PES's only saving grace
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Re: FIFA 14
Konami have been the masters of spin and false hope through the whole cycle of the now current gen.
Konami have been the masters of spin and false hope through the whole cycle of the now current gen.
The Doctor76
Premier League
Re: FIFA 14
We'll have to wait and see, eh? I know one thing: the disgusting treatment of PC Gamers, not once but twice, by EA is putting me off buying Fifa 14, especially as there'll be the knowledge of a likely vastly more superior version on the so-called 'Next Generation' consoles.
During the 'dark days' of Fifa on the PC (around 2004-2010) when all we had was basically a PS2 port, I played PES exclusively. Now those days appear to be back again, now might be the time to give PES another chance, especially taking the new engine into account (new engine means new hope, whether that hope is misguided or not) and also the fact that Konami don't shaft PC gamers every time a new generation of consoles is released.
Surely Konami are well aware of that, and of the disastrous knock on effect it would have if PES wasn't editable? Right now a lot of people are happy with PES because you can d/l option files so you have real kits etc. Take away that ability, and all you're left with is Man Red? Man Blue? It would be the worst possible thing Konami could do.
Basically, it'll come down - as always - which game is best in my opinion. Every year, I try both demos and make my decision based on that; in recent years it's been Fifa. This year I'm not so sure because it's obvious that the Xbox/PS3/PC version of Fifa 14 will have exactly the same outdated engine it's had for years (so any improvements are going to be severely limited) - whereas Konami are teasing us with the possibility of a brand new engine.
We'll have to wait and see, eh? I know one thing: the disgusting treatment of PC Gamers, not once but twice, by EA is putting me off buying Fifa 14, especially as there'll be the knowledge of a likely vastly more superior version on the so-called 'Next Generation' consoles.
During the 'dark days' of Fifa on the PC (around 2004-2010) when all we had was basically a PS2 port, I played PES exclusively. Now those days appear to be back again, now might be the time to give PES another chance, especially taking the new engine into account (new engine means new hope, whether that hope is misguided or not) and also the fact that Konami don't shaft PC gamers every time a new generation of consoles is released.
Surely Konami are well aware of that, and of the disastrous knock on effect it would have if PES wasn't editable? Right now a lot of people are happy with PES because you can d/l option files so you have real kits etc. Take away that ability, and all you're left with is Man Red? Man Blue? It would be the worst possible thing Konami could do.
Basically, it'll come down - as always - which game is best in my opinion. Every year, I try both demos and make my decision based on that; in recent years it's been Fifa. This year I'm not so sure because it's obvious that the Xbox/PS3/PC version of Fifa 14 will have exactly the same outdated engine it's had for years (so any improvements are going to be severely limited) - whereas Konami are teasing us with the possibility of a brand new engine.
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_anderson
Retired Fanboy
Re: FIFA 14
It's still a new game engine (not only graphics as some seem to think).
Completely fair to be skeptic, but it's exactly like The Doctor76 said, PES has the oportunity to deliver the same kind of game changer FIFA did in 07, and you can't take that away from them. At least not yet.
It's still a new game engine (not only graphics as some seem to think).
Completely fair to be skeptic, but it's exactly like The Doctor76 said, PES has the oportunity to deliver the same kind of game changer FIFA did in 07, and you can't take that away from them. At least not yet.
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
Re: FIFA 14
The way I see it right now is that FIFA 14 will probably be a solid game of football just like it has been the past few years. However, based on their hyperbole and performance during the same time frame, I think Konami are full of shit to be honest. Hope I'm wrong of course
The way I see it right now is that FIFA 14 will probably be a solid game of football just like it has been the past few years. However, based on their hyperbole and performance during the same time frame, I think Konami are full of shit to be honest. Hope I'm wrong of course
The Doctor76
Premier League
Re: FIFA 14
Yep. There's quite an important difference though: it's most unlikely that those machines will even be able to run Ignite, whereas a decent gaming PC would.
Yep. There's quite an important difference though: it's most unlikely that those machines will even be able to run Ignite, whereas a decent gaming PC would.
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
Re: FIFA 14
Wow, I'm amazed at all the negativity. EA just announced a version of FIFA that basically contains the core upgrades people have been begging for, and it's coming in one game.
Hell, the upgrades alone to player movement physics has me more excited for next gen FIFA 14 than I've been for any game in many years. Then add improved AI, improved graphics, 1,000 new animations, improved atmosphere...
Wow, I'm amazed at all the negativity. EA just announced a version of FIFA that basically contains the core upgrades people have been begging for, and it's coming in one game.
Hell, the upgrades alone to player movement physics has me more excited for next gen FIFA 14 than I've been for any game in many years. Then add improved AI, improved graphics, 1,000 new animations, improved atmosphere...
Thespeedster84
Champions League
- 4 October 2010
Re: FIFA 14
Because that "advancement" is only available to Xbox 1 n PS4 version ? even PC won't have it..
Because that "advancement" is only available to Xbox 1 n PS4 version ? even PC won't have it..
Re: FIFA 14
^ this...basically if you want to play FIFA with the best possible features its going to cost you around £450..i dont really play any other games so that is exactly what it will cost me. And yet I have a more than capable PC that has not been developed for to drive the console sales..I am not being naive though, maybe EA will be the first to announce it but they certainly wont be the last company to do it....and forget about trading in and getting it cheaper, rumors are that each game needs be activated online and is attached to your console, 2nd hand games market is dead which in effect also kills the casual gamer..i might pay 10 quid to have a quick go at something over a weekend when im not doing anything but i wont be paying 50
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^ this...basically if you want to play FIFA with the best possible features its going to cost you around £450..i dont really play any other games so that is exactly what it will cost me. And yet I have a more than capable PC that has not been developed for to drive the console sales..I am not being naive though, maybe EA will be the first to announce it but they certainly wont be the last company to do it....and forget about trading in and getting it cheaper, rumors are that each game needs be activated online and is attached to your console, 2nd hand games market is dead which in effect also kills the casual gamer..i might pay 10 quid to have a quick go at something over a weekend when im not doing anything but i wont be paying 50
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Re: FIFA 14
They've announced a lot of things before that haven't impressed me. Plus that trailer didn't impress me much tbh.
Add to that my main issue is player inertia. I want to see it in motion, not in a trailer.
They've announced a lot of things before that haven't impressed me. Plus that trailer didn't impress me much tbh.
Add to that my main issue is player inertia. I want to see it in motion, not in a trailer.
The Doctor76
Premier League
Re: FIFA 14
Yeah, sure - if I'm prepared to drop £400 on a console, which I'm not. Do you have any idea how powerful I could make my PC with £400 spent in the right places? It would be so far ahead of the so-called 'next generation' consoles, it would be laughable.
Yes, EA have announced a version of Fifa that will contain all the upgrades people want, only they're not releasing it on the only true 'next generation' machine - the PC. And you're amazed at the negativity. Let's see how you'd react to a company that released a substandard version of Fifa on your machine for six years, and now look set to do exactly the same thing all over again.
Exactly that! I was hugely underwhelmed by that entire trailer.
Yeah, sure - if I'm prepared to drop £400 on a console, which I'm not. Do you have any idea how powerful I could make my PC with £400 spent in the right places? It would be so far ahead of the so-called 'next generation' consoles, it would be laughable.
Yes, EA have announced a version of Fifa that will contain all the upgrades people want, only they're not releasing it on the only true 'next generation' machine - the PC. And you're amazed at the negativity. Let's see how you'd react to a company that released a substandard version of Fifa on your machine for six years, and now look set to do exactly the same thing all over again.
Exactly that! I was hugely underwhelmed by that entire trailer.
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Ipswich69
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- 25 July 2011
Re: FIFA 14
Unlike PES, the recent FIFA games definitely aren't bad -- popular opinion and sales figures support that fact. That being said, I have recently grown tired of the FIFA formula this generation. Time for change.
Unlike PES, the recent FIFA games definitely aren't bad -- popular opinion and sales figures support that fact. That being said, I have recently grown tired of the FIFA formula this generation. Time for change.
Re: FIFA 14
It's still not a fact for me. People buy games for different reasons. I bought both every time but was never that impressed by any. Might've been wow'd at the beginning but quickly put off finding myself trying hard to like any of them to justify the money spent.
As always though, I'll end up being sheeple and buying both.
Wish I had that strong will to not spend a nickel on any of them. But I blame my love for football, and gaming in general.
It's still not a fact for me. People buy games for different reasons. I bought both every time but was never that impressed by any. Might've been wow'd at the beginning but quickly put off finding myself trying hard to like any of them to justify the money spent.
As always though, I'll end up being sheeple and buying both.
Wish I had that strong will to not spend a nickel on any of them. But I blame my love for football, and gaming in general.
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
Re: FIFA 14
Same here mate. Seems both could definitely be a lot better than they are. Fingers crossed, hey
Same here mate. Seems both could definitely be a lot better than they are. Fingers crossed, hey
The Doctor76
Premier League
Re: FIFA 14
Yep, I think I'm getting that way as well; although I still enjoy Fifa 13 (for me it's the best football game ever - my opinion), I do feel like its time for a change. I was hoping and expecting, given the 'NG' consoles' architecture being closer to the PC etc, that the change would come in the form of 'NG' Fifa 14 but as that isn't the case, if PES 14's demo impresses me more than Fifa 14's, then that's what I'll get. I don't get both games - I consider it a waste of money to buy two games at the same time related to the same subject.
Yep, I think I'm getting that way as well; although I still enjoy Fifa 13 (for me it's the best football game ever - my opinion), I do feel like its time for a change. I was hoping and expecting, given the 'NG' consoles' architecture being closer to the PC etc, that the change would come in the form of 'NG' Fifa 14 but as that isn't the case, if PES 14's demo impresses me more than Fifa 14's, then that's what I'll get. I don't get both games - I consider it a waste of money to buy two games at the same time related to the same subject.
Re: FIFA 14
There not bad, but there still not good. The only reason its popular is because of the licenses sadly. Its the only thing people bring up about it when I mention PES.
There not bad, but there still not good. The only reason its popular is because of the licenses sadly. Its the only thing people bring up about it when I mention PES.
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
Re: FIFA 14
Fair enough, though I don't know why anyone would ever be impressed by a trailer.
EA have delivered a high quality football game this past generation and moving into the nexg gen they're focusing on the games most glaring weaknesses. What's not to be excited about?
Obviously EA - and all these games - are over-hyped. Obviously next gen FIFA 14 won't be the be-all-end-all of football games. Obviously, just like every other single video game ever made, there will be some bad that comes with the good.
But if you're a football fan, I don't know how you read impressions of next gen FIFA like this and not be excited:
And regarding your (and my) most important issue, player movement physics:
Now that last quote is from EA itself, so obviously you gotta take it with a grain of salt, but tell me how that isn't music to your ears?
Now, like I said, obviously it's not going to be perfect and there will be room for improvement, but going into the next gen EA have focused on exactly what we wanted them to. What more could we hope for?
Fair enough, though I don't know why anyone would ever be impressed by a trailer.
EA have delivered a high quality football game this past generation and moving into the nexg gen they're focusing on the games most glaring weaknesses. What's not to be excited about?
Obviously EA - and all these games - are over-hyped. Obviously next gen FIFA 14 won't be the be-all-end-all of football games. Obviously, just like every other single video game ever made, there will be some bad that comes with the good.
But if you're a football fan, I don't know how you read impressions of next gen FIFA like this and not be excited:
And regarding your (and my) most important issue, player movement physics:
Now that last quote is from EA itself, so obviously you gotta take it with a grain of salt, but tell me how that isn't music to your ears?
Now, like I said, obviously it's not going to be perfect and there will be room for improvement, but going into the next gen EA have focused on exactly what we wanted them to. What more could we hope for?
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mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
Re: FIFA 14
Cry me a river. If you're a gamer with only a PC then you've taken a gamble by being in the minority. Regarding FIFA 14, you've lost that gamble. That's on you, no one else.
People are moaning about EA's decision, suggesting it to be a strategic error, etc. Pfft. The proof is in the numbers: FIFA 13 has sold to date almost 15 million copies, of which less than 500,000 are PC versions.
Considering that EA is sure to sell at least some FIFA 14 PC versions, their decision means they'll be losing out on only a couple percentage points in sales. A tiny drop in the bucket. Yeah, huge blunder on their part.
That PCs are potentially a more powerful gaming rig is only relevant for those who refuse to get off their high horse long enough to recognize that consoles are the superior option for most people. You can argue into eternity that PCs are more powerful, are the only "true" next gen machine, blah blah blah. None of that changes the fact that the console market is and will continue to be the priority for most games.
Cry me a river. If you're a gamer with only a PC then you've taken a gamble by being in the minority. Regarding FIFA 14, you've lost that gamble. That's on you, no one else.
People are moaning about EA's decision, suggesting it to be a strategic error, etc. Pfft. The proof is in the numbers: FIFA 13 has sold to date almost 15 million copies, of which less than 500,000 are PC versions.
Considering that EA is sure to sell at least some FIFA 14 PC versions, their decision means they'll be losing out on only a couple percentage points in sales. A tiny drop in the bucket. Yeah, huge blunder on their part.
That PCs are potentially a more powerful gaming rig is only relevant for those who refuse to get off their high horse long enough to recognize that consoles are the superior option for most people. You can argue into eternity that PCs are more powerful, are the only "true" next gen machine, blah blah blah. None of that changes the fact that the console market is and will continue to be the priority for most games.
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Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Re: FIFA 14
The risk for the companies to put out a quality PC product relies in the piracy. Whether it's a program of any kind, or a game. If the word "download" didn't even exist, metaphorically speaking, I'm sure PC would still be a powerful market for them to compete. The only people who actually buy PC versions of the games are those who don't own a console BUT seek for the online adventure.
We all know the world spins around money. Any of you were actually gullible enough to think they invest all their time, knowledge and money just for the love of art, and to give us all a more enjoyable stay in this world? I certainly hope none of you was dumb enough to believe that.
Just be thankful that they gave you a next gen FIFA for PC at last. They don't care whether you bought the game or not, because the truth is... the majority didn't buy it. So you can actually consider that FIFA11»13 were a special gift to all PC gamers.
The risk for the companies to put out a quality PC product relies in the piracy. Whether it's a program of any kind, or a game. If the word "download" didn't even exist, metaphorically speaking, I'm sure PC would still be a powerful market for them to compete. The only people who actually buy PC versions of the games are those who don't own a console BUT seek for the online adventure.
We all know the world spins around money. Any of you were actually gullible enough to think they invest all their time, knowledge and money just for the love of art, and to give us all a more enjoyable stay in this world? I certainly hope none of you was dumb enough to believe that.
Just be thankful that they gave you a next gen FIFA for PC at last. They don't care whether you bought the game or not, because the truth is... the majority didn't buy it. So you can actually consider that FIFA11»13 were a special gift to all PC gamers.
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