eFootball PES 2020 Discussion Thread (PS4/Xbox One)

With a week to go till 1.4 hits the consoles, I reverted it all back to vanilla. Rangers ML it is again and the first match shows (to me): I like vanilla the most. Gosh. What a good game.

The freedom and randomness is really king and fouls are there. I’m in between SS and TP, but I enjoy this so much more than 1.2 or 1.3!

The “human factor” for AI is more pronounced as well. And im I love with that. That is one major part for me!
The AI isn’t that super spontaneous when it’s about loose balls. You have a chance. Same as they have a chance. Loose ball battles seem more free. More fair.
And I appreciate that big time.

While I’m playing I could name so many things that are better. It’s crazy. Just a few things are worse. Not many.

The response times are much better. And this is the first time, I’m taking this into consideration... there must be something down to response times. Wish I could get my thoughts out much clearer... ich wünschte ich könnte genauer ausrücken was ich meine. ;)
Edit: Opponent players are not super quick in getting balls back. They behave and walk and run more natural.
The “force field” is not that pronounced. You are not “sticking” to the opponent a lot of times. It’s more free, weighty and challenging, imo.

I’m repeating myself, I know, but what can you do (?!): when you feel joy and want to share.

You're the reason bro I'm sticking faithfully to 1.0...plays so well:D
 
If you think the keepers are too good on SS then I suggest you stay well away from Legend.. ninja reactioned teleporting Spiderman- Superman hybrids galore :LOL:


I'm working on GK stats to decrease those especially on lower GK...i modified more than 470 GK so far...check this list out



Alisson(LIVERPOOL)
Jan Oblak(ATLETICO MADRID)
Marc-André ter Stegen(BARCELLONA)
David De Gea(MANCHESTER UNITED)
Ederson(MANCHESTER CITY)
Thibaut Courtois(REAL MADRID)
Hugo Lloris(TOTTENHAM)
Wojciech Szczesny(JUVENTUS)
Samir Handanovic(INTER)
Keylor Navas(PSG)
Gianluigi Donnarumma(MILAN)
Anthony Lopes(LIONE)
Neto(BARCELLONA)
Salvatore Sirigu(TORINO)
Stephane Ruffier(SAINT ETIENNE)
Pau Lòpez(AS ROMA)
Jordan Pickford(EVERTON)
Jasper Cillessen(VALENCIA)
Lukas Hradecky(BAYER LEVERKUSEN)
Rui Patricio(WOLWERHAMPTON)
Andrè Onana(AJAX)
Thomas Strakosha(LAZIO)
Benjamin Lecomte(AS MONACO)
Sergio Asenjo(VILLAREAL)
Lukasz Fabianski(WEST HAM)
Pepe Reina(MILAN)
Gianluigi Buffon(JUVENTUS)
Alessio Cragno(CAGLIARI)
Tomas Vaclik(SIVIGLIA)
Jordi Masip(REAL VALLADOLID)
Fernando Muslera(GALATASARAY)
Antonio Adan(ATLETICO MADRID)
Andrea Consigli(SASSUOLO)
Marko Dmitrović(EIBAR)
Martin Dúbravka('NEWSCASTLE)
Mike Maignan(LILLE)
Emiliano Viviano(SVINCOLATO)
Walter Benitez(NIZZA)
Odisseas Vlachodimos(BENFICA)
Esteban Andrada(BOCA JUNIORS)
Mathew Ryan(BRIGHTON)
Jeroen Zoet(PSV)
Ralf Fährmann(NORWICH)
David Ospina(NAPOLI)
Sergio Romero(MANCHESTER UNITED)
Steve Mandanda(MARSIGLIA)
Tom Heaton(ASTON VILLA)
Ben Foster(WATFORD)
Benoit Costil(BORDEAUX)
Igor Akinfeev(CSKA MOSCA)
Diego López(ESPANYOL)
Alban Lafont(NANTES)
Andrey Lunev(ZENIT SAN PIETROBURGO)
Nick Pope(BURNLEY)
Ciprian Tătărușanu(Lione)
Matz Sels(STRASBURGO)
Iago Herrerin(ATHLETIC BILBAO)
Vicente Guaita(CRYSTAL PALACE)
Antonio Mirante(ROMA)
Martín Campaña(INDEPENDIENTE)
Alex Meret(NAPOLI)
Gabriel Arias(RACING CLUB)
Guido Herrera(TALLARES)
Juan Musso(UDINESE)
Josè Sà(OLYMPIAKOS)
Robin Olsen(CAGLIARI)
Augustin Marchesin(PORTO)
Joel Robles(BETIS SIVIGLIA)
Orestis Karnezis(NAPOLI)
Guilherme(LOKOMOTIV MOSCA)
Simon Mignolet(CLUB BRUGGE)
Andrés Fernández(VILLAREAL)
Guillermo Ochoa(MESSICO)
Alexandros Paschalakis(PAOK)
Edouard Mendy(RENNES)
Emil Audero(SAMPDORIA)
Paul Bernardoni(Nimes)
Marco Sportiello(ATALANTA)
Camilo Vargas(COLOMBIA)
Bono(SIVIGLIA)
Sergio Rico(PSG)
Baptiste Reynet(TOLOSA)
Jack Butland(STOKE CITY)
Marco Bizot(AZ ALKMAAR)
Clàudio Ramos(TONDELA)
Renan Ribeiro(SPORTING LISBONA)
Leandro Chichizola(GETAFE)
Douglas(VITORIA GUIMARES)
Yuri Lodygin(GAZIANTEP)
Sam Johnstone(WEST BROMWICH)
Silviu Lung Jr(KAYSERSPOR)
Paulo Gazzaniga(TOTTENHAM)
Emiliano Martinez(ARSENAL)
Alfred Gomis(DIJON)
Gabriel(LECCE)
Neil Etheridge(CARDIFF)
Luigi Sepe(PARMA)
Fehmi Mert Günok(BASAKSEHIR)
Cristian Darío Álvarez(REAL SARAGOZZA)
Volkan Babacan(BASAKSEHIR)
Danny Vukovic(GENK)
Kiko Casilla(LEEDS)
Jonas Lössl(EVERTON)
Wayne Hennessey(CRYSTAL PALACE)
Darren Randolph(MIDDLESBROUGH)
Sergio Alvàrez(CELTA)
Ramazan Özcan(BAYER LEVERKUSEN)
Mariano Barbosa(VILLAREAL)
Rafael(CAGLIARI)
Willy Caballero(CHELSEA)
Jesper Hansen(FC Midtjylland)
Artur Boruc(BOURNEMOUTH)
Allan McGregor(RANGERS)
Ondřej Kolář(SLAVIA PRAGA)
Predrag Rajkovic(STADE REIMS)
Justin Bijlow(FEYENOORD)
Uğurcan Çakır(TRABZNOSPOR)
Munir(MALAGA)
Bruno Varela(AJAX)
Danny Ward(LEICESTER)
Sokratis Dioudis(PANATHINAIKOS
Hendrik Van Crombrugge(ANDERLECHT)
Marafona(ALANYASPOR)
Diego Mariño(SPORTING GIJÒN)
Bartłomiej Drągowski(FIORENTINA)
Pietro Terracciano(FIORENTINA)
Jandrei(GENOA)
Marco Silvestri(VERONA)
Gianluca Pegolo(SASSUOLO)
Karlo Letica(SPAL)
Mile Svilar(BENFICA)
Càssio(CORINTHIANS)
Victor(ATLETICO MINEIRO)
Wuilker Fariñez(MILLIONARIOS)
Weverton(PALMEIRAS)
Alvaro Montero(DEPORTES TOLIMA)
Fernando Pacheco(ALAVÈS)
Diego Alves(FLAMENGO)
Stanislav Kritsyuk(KRASNODAR)
Matvey Safonov(KRASNODAR)
Oier Olazàbal(LEVANTE)
Asmir Begović(SVINCOLATO)
Anton Shunin(DINAMO MOSCA)
Walter(CORINTHIANS)
Serkan Kirintili(KONYASPOR)
Mariano Andùjar(ESTUDIANTES)
Yohann Pelè(MARSIGLIA)
Berke Özer(SVINCOLATO)
Seydou Sy(AS MONACO)
Brice Samba(NOTTINGHAM)
Jonas Omlin(BASILEA)
Maxime Dupè(CLERMONT)
Jeremias Ledesma(ROSARIO CENTRAL)
Everson(SANTOS)
Saad Al-Sheeb(AL SADD)
Sergey Pesjakov(ROSTOV)
Danilo Fernandes(INTERNATIONAL)
Soslan Dzhanaev(SOCHI)
Kenneth Vermeer(FEYENOORD)
Aleksandr Belenov((UFA)
Daniele Padelli(INTER)
Josè Cuadrado(ATLETICO NACIONAL)
Kieren Westwood(SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY)
Asier Riesgo(GIRONA)
Sebastian Viera(JUNIOR FC)
Illan Meslier(LEEDS)
Ivan Arboleda(BANFIELD)
Jean(SAN PAOLO)
Tiago Sà(BRAGA)
Ethan Horvath(CLUB BRUGGE)
Yoan Cardinale(NIZZA)
Amir Abedzadeh(MARITIMO)
Charles(MARITIMO)
Marcelo Lomba(INTERNACIONAL)
David von Ballmoos(YOUNG BOYS)
Ivan Konovalov(RUBIN KAZAN)
Yuri Dyupin(RUBIN KAZAN)
Panagiotis Tsintotas(AEK ATENE)
Baptiste Valette(NANCY)
Paul Nardi(LORIENT)
Thomas Kaminski(GENT)
Warner Hahn(HERENVEEN)
Marcus Bettinelli(FULHAM)
David Jensen(UTRECHT)
Konstantinos Lamprou(VITESSE)
Rafael Cabral(READING)
Yoel(EIBAR)
Sten Grytebust(FC COPENHAGEN)
Tim Krul(NORWICH)
Romain Salin(RENNES)
Dani Giménez(DEPORTIVO)
Diego Benaglio(AS MONACO)
Claudio Ramos(TONDELA)
Pedro Gallese(ALIANZA LIMA)
Ludovic Butelle(ANGERS)
Gautier Larsonneur(BREST)
Gökhan Akkan(Çaykur Rizespor)
Shuichi Gonda(PORTIMONENSE)
Fraser Forster(CELTIC)
Raùl Fernàndez(LAS PALMAS)
Antonio Sivera(ALAVES)
Alexander Dominguez(VELEZ)
Ruud Boffin(ANTALYASPOR)
Matías Ibáñez(PATRONATO)
Evgeni Gorodov(AKHMAT GROZNY)
Alberto Brignoli(EMPOLI)
Matias Dituro(UNIVERSIDAD CATOLICA)
Davy Roef(ANDERLECHT)
Edgar Badia(ELCHE)
Francesco Bardi(FROSINONE)
Milan Heča(SPARTA PRAGA)
Karl Darlow(NEWCASTLE)
Costel Pantilimon(NOTTINGHAM FOREST)
Tomeu Nadal(ALBACETE)
Karl-Johan Johnsson(FC COPENAGHEN)
Renè(ALMERIA)
Vincenzo Fiorillo(PESCARA)
Alexandre Oukidja(METZ)
Marco Rocha(SANTA CLARA)
Leonardo Fabián Burián(COLÒN)
Enrico Alfonso(BRESCIA)
Bred Jones(AL NASSR)
Joe Lewis(ABERDEEN)
Jean-Louis Leca(LENS)
Vincent De Marconnay(PARIS FC)
Carlos Kameni(SVINCOLATO)
Cifuentes(CADICE)
Nicolas Penneteau(CHARLEROI)
Maarten Stekelenburg(EVERTON)
Jhonatan(VITORIA GUIMARAES)
Joel Drommel(TWENTE)
Leo Jardim(LILLE)
Jean Butez(MOUSCRON)
Bingourou Kamara(STRASBURGO)
Lucas Hoyos(VELEZ)
Sergio Herrera(OSASUNA)
Ezequiel Unsain(DEFENSA Y JUSTICIA)
Simone Scuffet(SPEZIA)
Brayan Cortés(COLO COLO)
Antony Silva(HURACAN)
Stole Dimitrievski(RAYO VALLECANO)
Mohammed Al Owais(AL AHLI)
Rui Silva(GRANADA)
Wes Foderingham(RANGERS)
Giorgi Makaridze(VITORIA SETÙBAL)
Angelo Da Costa(BOLOGNA)
Alberto(RAYO VALLECANO)
Estebàn Conde(BANFIELD)
Ørjan Håskjold Nyland(ASTON VILLA)
Alex Smithies(CARDIFF)
Ricardo Ferreira(PORTIMONENSE)
Erwin Mulder(SWANSEA)
Bracali(BOAVISTA)
Kwoun Sun Tae(KASHIMA ANTLERS)
Manolo Reina(MAIORCA)
Nicolàs Navarro(SAN LORENZO)
Eduardo(BRAGA)
Scott Carson(MANCHESTER CITY)
Cristian Lucchetti(ATLETICO TUCUMAN)
Alex Cordaz(CROTONE)
Artem Rebrov(SPARTAK MOSCA)
Luciano Darío Pocrnjic(ALDOSIVI)
Sammy Bossut(SV ZULTE-WAREGEM)
Lee Grant(MANCHESTER UNITED)
Carlo Pinsoglio(JUVENTUS)
Craig Gordon(CELTIC)
Khalid Eissa(AL AIN)
Alexandr Maksimenko(SPARTAK MOSCA)
David Raya(BRENTFORD)
Owalabi Allagbè(NIORT)
Sebastian Torrico(SAN LORENZO)
Helton Leite(BOAVISTA)
William Dutoit(OOSTENDE)
Mauro Goicoichea(TOLOSA)
Quentin Beunardeau(AVES)
Zeng Cheng(GUANGZHOU EVERGRANDE)
Janis Blaswich(HERACLES)
Jesse Joronen(BRESCIA)
Scott Bain(CELTIC)
Dani Jimènez(ALCORCÒN)
Kristoffer Nordfeldt(SWANSEA)
Mamadou Samassa(SIVASSPOR)
Cristopher Toselli(UNIVERSIDAD CATÓLICA)
David González(INDEPENDIENTE MEDELLIN)
Denis(GIL VICENTE)
Markus Schubert(SCHALKE 04)
Michael Langer(SCHALKE 04)
Niklas Lomb(BAYER LEVERKUSEN)
Christian Früchtl(BAYERN MONACO)
Ron-Thorben Hoffmann(BAYERN MONACO)
Giorgos Athanasiadis(AEK ATENE)
Konstantinos Kotsaris(PANATHINAIKOS)
Vasilios Xenopoulos(PANATHINAIKOS)
Nikos Christogeorgos(PANATHINAIKOS)
Georgiy Bushchan(DINAMO KIEV)
Bobby Allain(OLYMPIAKOS)
Konstantinos Tzolakis(OLYMPIAKOS)
Kenny Steppe(SINT TRUIDEN)
Adam Federici(STOKE)
Nereo Champagne(OVIEDO)
Remko Pasveer(VITESSE)
David Marshall(WIGAN)
Frank Boeckx(ANDERLECHT)
Germán Darío Lux(RIVER PLATE)
Oleksiy Shevchenko(SHAKHTAR DONETSK)
Luis Maximiano(SPORTING LISBONA)
Filip Manojlović(GETAFE)
Koke Vegas(LEVANTE)
Ivan Zoblin(BENFICA)
Alberto Paleari(CITTADELLA)
Alfonso Herrero(OVIEDO)
Diogo Costa(PORTO)
Michael Verrips(SHEFFIELD UNITED)
Geovanni Banguera(SANTA FÈ)
Augusto Batalla(UNION LA CALERA)
Ivan Provedel(EMPOLI)
Alessandro Micai(SALERNITANA)
Vanja Milinković-Savić(STANDARD LIEGI)
Rafael Defendi(FAMALICAO)
Marek Rodák(FULHAM)
Rúnar Alex Rúnarsson(DIJON)
Freddie Woodman(SWANSEA)
Alexei Koselev(FORTUNA SITTARD)
Ofir Marciano(HIBERNIAN)
Axel Werner(ATLETICO MADRID)
Diego Rodríguez(CENTRAL CORDOBA SDE)
Joel Pereira(HEARTS)
Marc-Aurèle Caillard(GUINGAMP)
Marius Müller(LUCERNA)
Neto(AMERICA DE CALI)
Christian Walton(BLACKBURN)
Adrian Ortolà(TENERIFE)
Lawrence Thomas(MELBOURNE VICTORY)
Ertaç Özbir(GENCLERBIRLIGI)
Nicola Leali(ASCOLI)
Zacharie Boucher(AUXERRE)
Adam Davies(STOKE)
Andrea Seculin(CHIEVO)
Abdoulaye Diallo(GENCLERBIRLIGI)
Fabien Farnolle(YENI MALATYASPOR)
Pedro Trigueira(MOREIRENSE)
Jed Steer(ASTON VILLA)
Ramazan Köse(KASIMPASA)
Simone Colombi(PARMA)
Erwin Zelazny(CAEN)
Wang Dalei(SHANDONG)
Rémy Riou(CAEN)
Rob Elliot(NEWCASTLE)
John Ruddy(WOLVERHAMPTON)
Paweł Kieszek(RIO AVE)
Rubén(OSASUNA)
Tolgahan Acar(DENIZLISPOR)
Hakan Arıkan(KAYSERISPOR)
Mateus Pasinato(MOREIRENSE)
Maximiliano Gagliardo(ARSENAL SARANDI)
Gerardo Ortiz(ONCE CALDAS)
Altay Bayındır(FENERBACHE)
Eike Bansen(ZULTE-WAREGEM)
Yannis Clementia(NIZZA)
Hervé Koffi(BELENENSES)
Daniel Schimdt(SIT-TRUIDENSE)
Soriano(LEGANES)
Aleksandar Jovanović(AARHUS)
Haydar Yılmaz(ALANYASPOR)
Aaron Ramsdale(BOURNEMOUTH)
Bailey Peacock-Farrell(BURNLEY)
Ali Şaşal Vural(SIVASSPOR)
Muammer Yıldırım(SIVASSPOR)
Fernando Pellegrino(HURACÀN)
Lorenzo Montipò(BENEVENTO)
Guillermo Sara(LANÙS)
Nelson Ibáñez(NEWELL'S)
Gauthier Gallon(ESTAC TROYES)
Eder Chaux(PATRIOTAS BOYACÀ)
José Luis Chunga(JUNIOR FC)
Lucas Cháves(ARGENTINOS JUNIORS)
Fabrice Ondoa(OOSTENDE)
Günay Güvenç(GAZESEHIR GAZIANTEP)
Daniel Bachmann(WATFORD)
Ricardo Ribeiro(PACOS FERREIRA)
Nicolas(UDINESE)
Zander Clark(ST JOHNSTONE)
Colin Coosemans(GENT)
Benjamin Leroy(AJACCIO)
Korcan Çelikay(ANKARAGUCU)
Declan Rudd(PRESTON NORTH END)
Yannick Thoelen(MECHELEN)
Mauro Vigorito(LECCE)
Denis Petrić(NANTES)
Sébastien Bruzzese(KORTRIJK
Thorsten Kirschbaum(VVV- VENLO)
David Stockdale(BIRMINGHAM)
Samir Ujkani(TORINO)
Jhonny Herrera(UNIVERSIDAD DE CHILE)
Frank Fielding(MILLWALL)
Trevor Carson(MOTHERWELL)
Antonio Rosati(TORINO)
Ali Al Habsi(WEST BROMWICH)
Niki Mäenpää(BRISTOL)
Michael Agazzi(CREMONESE)
Bram Castro(MECHELEN)
Jean-François Gillet(STANDARD LIEGI)
Bartosz Białkowski(MILLWALL)
Adrian Šemper(CHIEVO) - 68 -
Danijel Zagora(DINAMO ZAGABRIA)
Josep Martinez(LAS PALMAS)
Dani Martin(BETIS)
Arnaud Bodart(STANDARD LIEGI)
Ortwin De Wolf(EUPEN)
Ratòn(REAL SARAGOZZA)
Gaëtan Coucke(GENK)
Pontus Dahlberg(WATFORD)
Arijanet Muric(NOTTINGHAM)
Maxence Andre Prévôt(SOCHAUX)
Boris Radunović(VERONA)
Fernando De Paul(UNIVERSIDAD DE CHILE)
Marvin Schwäbe(BRONDBY)
Timon Wellenreuther(WILLEM II)
Roberto Ramirez(GODOY CRUZ)
GU Chao(JIANGSU SUNING)
Andrea Fulignati(PERUGIA)
Gabriel Castellón(HUACHIPATO)
Joe Lumley(QPR)
José González(PALESTINO)
Diego Novoa(LA EQUIDAD)
Kelle Roos(DERBY COUNTY)
Filip Bednarek(HERENVEEN)
Ariel Harush(SPARTA ROTTORDAM)
Mikkel Andersen(FC MIDTJYLLAND)
Laurențiu Brănescu(KILMARNOCK)
Fatih Öztürk(KASIMPASA)
Michael McGovern(NORWICH)
Casto(EXTREMADURA)
Ufuk Ceylan(YENI MALATYASPOR)
Luke Steele(MILLWALL)
Ferhat Kaplan(ANTALYASPOR)
Connor Ripley(PRESTON)
Anton Kochenkov(LOKOMOTIV MOSCA)
George Long(HULL CITY)
Mathieu Gorgelin(LE HAVRE)
Daniel Bentley(BRISTOL)
Mahmut Ertuğrul Taşkıran(KONYASPOR)
Samuel Şahin-Radlinger(BARNSLEY)
Přemysl Kovář(SLAVIA PRAGA)
Daniel Hernández(TENERIFE)
Jason Steele(BRIGHTON)
Alberto Pomini(VENEZIA)
Jan Koprivec(KILMARNOCK)
Robert Zwinkels(ADO DEN HAAG)
Miguel Ángel Pinto(O'HIGGINS)
David Button(BRIGHTON)
Jessy Moulin(SAINT ETIENNE)
Paul Vitor(RIO AVE) - 67 -
Andrè Ferreira(SANTA CLARA)
Kjell Scherpen(AJAX)
Guglielmo Vicario(PERUGIA)
Maarten Paes(UTRECHT)
Loïc Badiashile(CERCLE BRUGES)
Rémy Descamps(SPORTING CHARLEROI)
Yerko Urra(HUACHIPATO)
Miquel Parera(MAIORCA)
Jérémy Vachoux(ORLEANS)
Arthur Desmas(RODEZ)
Rody de Boer(AZ ALKMAAR)
Pablo Andrés Mina(DEPORTIVO CALI)
José Devecchi(SAN LORENZO)
Liam Kelly(QPR)
Liu Dianzuo(GUANGZHOU EVERGRANDE)
Josè Suarez(GIRONA)
Lucas Pirard(BEVEREN)
Xavier Mous(ZWOLLE)
Jordan Smith(NOTTINGHAM)
Ivan Villar(CELTA)
Jérôme Prior(VALENCIENNES)
Nordin Jackers(BEVEREN)
Alphonse Areola(REAL MADRID)
Jasper Cillessen(VALENCIA)
Kepa(CHELSEA)
Franco Armani(RIVER PLATE)
Loris Karius(BESIKTAS)
Tomas Vaclik(SIVIGLIA)
 
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I'm working on GK stats to decrease those especially on lower GK...i modified more than 470 GK so far...check this list out



Alisson(LIVERPOOL)
Jan Oblak(ATLETICO MADRID)
Marc-André ter Stegen(BARCELLONA)
David De Gea(MANCHESTER UNITED)
Ederson(MANCHESTER CITY)
Thibaut Courtois(REAL MADRID)
Hugo Lloris(TOTTENHAM)
Wojciech Szczesny(JUVENTUS)
Samir Handanovic(INTER)
Keylor Navas(PSG)
Gianluigi Donnarumma(MILAN)
Anthony Lopes(LIONE)
Neto(BARCELLONA)
Salvatore Sirigu(TORINO)
Stephane Ruffier(SAINT ETIENNE)
Pau Lòpez(AS ROMA)
Jordan Pickford(EVERTON)
Jasper Cillessen(VALENCIA)
Lukas Hradecky(BAYER LEVERKUSEN)
Rui Patricio(WOLWERHAMPTON)
Andrè Onana(AJAX)
Thomas Strakosha(LAZIO)
Benjamin Lecomte(AS MONACO)
Sergio Asenjo(VILLAREAL)
Lukasz Fabianski(WEST HAM)
Pepe Reina(MILAN)
Gianluigi Buffon(JUVENTUS)
Alessio Cragno(CAGLIARI)
Tomas Vaclik(SIVIGLIA)
Jordi Masip(REAL VALLADOLID)
Fernando Muslera(GALATASARAY)
Antonio Adan(ATLETICO MADRID)
Andrea Consigli(SASSUOLO)
Marko Dmitrović(EIBAR)
Martin Dúbravka('NEWSCASTLE)
Mike Maignan(LILLE)
Emiliano Viviano(SVINCOLATO)
Walter Benitez(NIZZA)
Odisseas Vlachodimos(BENFICA)
Esteban Andrada(BOCA JUNIORS)
Mathew Ryan(BRIGHTON)
Jeroen Zoet(PSV)
Ralf Fährmann(NORWICH)
David Ospina(NAPOLI)
Sergio Romero(MANCHESTER UNITED)
Steve Mandanda(MARSIGLIA)
Tom Heaton(ASTON VILLA)
Ben Foster(WATFORD)
Benoit Costil(BORDEAUX)
Igor Akinfeev(CSKA MOSCA)
Diego López(ESPANYOL)
Alban Lafont(NANTES)
Andrey Lunev(ZENIT SAN PIETROBURGO)
Nick Pope(BURNLEY)
Ciprian Tătărușanu(Lione)
Matz Sels(STRASBURGO)
Iago Herrerin(ATHLETIC BILBAO)
Vicente Guaita(CRYSTAL PALACE)
Antonio Mirante(ROMA)
Martín Campaña(INDEPENDIENTE)
Alex Meret(NAPOLI)
Gabriel Arias(RACING CLUB)
Guido Herrera(TALLARES)
Juan Musso(UDINESE)
Josè Sà(OLYMPIAKOS)
Robin Olsen(CAGLIARI)
Augustin Marchesin(PORTO)
Joel Robles(BETIS SIVIGLIA)
Orestis Karnezis(NAPOLI)
Guilherme(LOKOMOTIV MOSCA)
Simon Mignolet(CLUB BRUGGE)
Andrés Fernández(VILLAREAL)
Guillermo Ochoa(MESSICO)
Alexandros Paschalakis(PAOK)
Edouard Mendy(RENNES)
Emil Audero(SAMPDORIA)
Paul Bernardoni(Nimes)
Marco Sportiello(ATALANTA)
Camilo Vargas(COLOMBIA)
Bono(SIVIGLIA)
Sergio Rico(PSG)
Baptiste Reynet(TOLOSA)
Jack Butland(STOKE CITY)
Marco Bizot(AZ ALKMAAR)
Clàudio Ramos(TONDELA)
Renan Ribeiro(SPORTING LISBONA)
Leandro Chichizola(GETAFE)
Douglas(VITORIA GUIMARES)
Yuri Lodygin(GAZIANTEP)
Sam Johnstone(WEST BROMWICH)
Silviu Lung Jr(KAYSERSPOR)
Paulo Gazzaniga(TOTTENHAM)
Emiliano Martinez(ARSENAL)
Alfred Gomis(DIJON)
Gabriel(LECCE)
Neil Etheridge(CARDIFF)
Luigi Sepe(PARMA)
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Which stats are you editing?
 
Hi guys.
I've already had a chat with couple of you about this...

I'm playing version 1.00 and editing even one kit, just changing the colour, is causing my game to glitch, stutter, the ball to feel heavy, to move like on a string when dribbling, all sorts of degradation in gameplay.

If I revert that single kit to default and replay the match with that team, the game plays fine again.

I've tried this on three different ps4's, including a brand new slim and it's the same problem. In fact, after editing a few teams kits, even matches between licenced teams begin to glitch.

Has anyone who's manually edited on version 1.00 had a similar problem? I just cant believe the game can be this unstable.

Has anyone on xbox had this problem?

I'm willing to play without proper kits but being stuck with default kits is a step too far really, especially in an ML.

I'm wondering if it's the disc? But then it plays absolutely fine when I havent edited anything.

Would be grateful for your experiences, views, suggestions for work around.
Thanks...
 
WHo messed up the forum? Now one page reads like a book and I get tired after one page.


Also the avatars are massive!

I mean this page alone.

Rojofa punches PRO-TOO for being so happy. Mikhail and Negatrev have no clue what's going and then Pierluiigi Collina comes in from nowhere and blows his whistle to stop separate the two fighters.

Yep. That's what I see when I scrolled through this page.

I think I saw an option in the settings about the size of the avatar that's shown.
 
:NO::NO::NO::NO::NO:

BS. When my player is running towards a through ball from the COM and is guaranteed to intercept it, then the COM disables my inputs to stop my players run, so the COM CF can receive the ball and score, this is total cheating.
When my 88 rated strength DMF is constantly smashed to the ground by smaller weaker COM players, this is cheating, when I'm fouled in the penalty area, the foul is given, but 2 yards outside the box for a FK, that is cheating.
When Im suddenly unable to play a pass 5 yards, that is cheating I could go on ............

Just for the record, I am not going to defend the game as I have had similar experiences. However, after spending time testing the game under different circumstances, I got a much better understanding of why these things occurs, and that they are not "AI cheat scripting."

Breaking down your examples...
1) CB stop running after switching to it:
This used to happen to me a lot and I have learned that this happens if I am not holding sprint towards goal before "player switching." Also, for PES2020, because turning speed is slower than previous games, you want to hold sprint towards the direction that the CB is running before switching or they will go into a turning animation.

2) 88 rated strength DMF smashed by smaller weak COM players:
First of all it's important to look at the difficulty level you are playing, and also what is the situation in the game as "team spirit" and "momentum" all play into this. If you are playing on higher difficulties, stats are boosted for COM players and you will see this happening. Like I said, this is a "known feature" of the game as stat boost is how difficulty level is set. I do have to say that with the game being much more "realistic," this way of implementing difficulty setting is antiquated, and it is immersion breaking, but again this isn't "AI cheating," just a badly designed feature.

3) Unable to play a pass 5 yards
I have spoken about this year after year, and this problem is especially bad for FUMA players. The way passing meter is implemented is currently broken as even the lightest tap will result in a pass longer than 5 yards. Without PA1 or higher, you have simply no way to pass to the feet of a player close to you. This issue is compounded by the broken player switching and the currently low responsiveness of players to "loose balls." So this is a case of the game being incomplete/buggy/badly design, but again it is not "AI cheating."
 
Hi guys.
I've already had a chat with couple of you about this...

I'm playing version 1.00 and editing even one kit, just changing the colour, is causing my game to glitch, stutter, the ball to feel heavy, to move like on a string when dribbling, all sorts of degradation in gameplay.

If I revert that single kit to default and replay the match with that team, the game plays fine again.

I've tried this on three different ps4's, including a brand new slim and it's the same problem. In fact, after editing a few teams kits, even matches between licenced teams begin to glitch.

Has anyone who's manually edited on version 1.00 had a similar problem? I just cant believe the game can be this unstable.

Has anyone on xbox had this problem?

I'm willing to play without proper kits but being stuck with default kits is a step too far really, especially in an ML.

I'm wondering if it's the disc? But then it plays absolutely fine when I havent edited anything.

Would be grateful for your experiences, views, suggestions for work around.
Thanks...
Note; I know very little about ps4 hardware. I'm just spit-balling, but is there an option to defragment your ps4 storage? It sounds like if you edit a kit (which is stored in an edit0000000 file by the game on pc) the game is taking longer to access/load kits. I'm fairly sure @PRO_TOO is playing 1.0 with edited kits, so it would be weird for this to be a game issue rather than an environmental one as I would've thought he'd have noticed it too.
 
Note; I know very little about ps4 hardware. I'm just spit-balling, but is there an option to defragment your ps4 storage? It sounds like if you edit a kit (which is stored in an edit0000000 file by the game on pc) the game is taking longer to access/load kits. I'm fairly sure @PRO_TOO is playing 1.0 with edited kits, so it would be weird for this to be a game issue rather than an environmental one as I would've thought he'd have noticed it too.

Thanks for the reply...

That sounds like a possibility, especially as the fan goes into overdrive the minute a match with an edited kit begins. I keep thinking its environmental too.

But the thing is I'm playing on a brand new ps4 slim, I havent even signed into my playstation account yet. So I'm struggling to work out what I could do to the ps4 to improve it.

Is there a way to install the game onto a ps4? Or does it do that anyway?

I'm beginning to wonder whether the game is optimised for the ps4 pro, but surely even konami wouldnt screw the edit mode on a standard ps4?
 
Thanks for the reply...

That sounds like a possibility, especially as the fan goes into overdrive the minute a match with an edited kit begins. I keep thinking its environmental too.
This sounds like a hardware problem. I would suggest returning the PS4 and get it replaced.
 
This sounds like a hardware problem. I would suggest returning the PS4 and get it replaced.
It’s happened on a few of his PS4’s though, can’t be a hardware problem.

The fan goes crazy for me on PES 2020 as well but FIFA is fine unless I’m in a press conference.
 
It’s happened on a few of his PS4’s though, can’t be a hardware problem.

The fan goes crazy for me on PES 2020 as well but FIFA is fine unless I’m in a press conference.

This is what's left me stumped. Its happened on my old ps4, my brothers ps4 and my one day old ps4 slim.

I feel like theres something I'm missing I just cant put my finger on it.

Is there any way it could be a disc problem? That's its damaged in a way that's not physically obvious so doesn't read properly when I've edited? Does that even make sense in terms of how discs work?

Sorry guys, this isnt the most fun topic, I'm just genuinely in a fix. I'd play with default kits but some of them are just the plain wrong colour and even with my (necessary) capacity for self delusion when it comes for pes, I cant look past them!
 
Note; I know very little about ps4 hardware. I'm just spit-balling, but is there an option to defragment your ps4 storage? It sounds like if you edit a kit (which is stored in an edit0000000 file by the game on pc) the game is taking longer to access/load kits. I'm fairly sure @PRO_TOO is playing 1.0 with edited kits, so it would be weird for this to be a game issue rather than an environmental one as I would've thought he'd have noticed it too.
I only edited tactics for my 1.0 save, till now.
But I can give it a try @FShas ! What teams should I play to test it and in what mode?!
Just edit the kits before kick off (like changing color)? Gimme detailed instructions and I’ll have a look.

@Emroth did a lot of kit editing with his vanilla save. He did not mention weird matches..!!
 
I only edited tactics for my 1.0 save, till now.
But I can give it a try @FShas ! What teams should I play to test it and in what mode?!
Just edit the kits before kick off (like changing color)? Gimme detailed instructions and I’ll have a look.

@Emroth did a lot of kit editing with his vanilla save. He did not mention weird matches..!!


Hey ProToo, sorry to drag you back down this rabbit hole.

A simple experiment I do is play Norwich liverpool at village road night summer clear weather.


I originally created a third liverpool kit, the black one. And it immediately started glitching.
I deleted that kit, played with the default liverpool red kit and game played normal again.

So...I changed the colour, nothing else, on liverpool's home kit to a brighter red to make it closer to reality. And it glitched again!
I changed it back to default and it played fine again.

So this is what I've done only on my new save on the new ps4 slim.

On my old ps4, I changed a load of kits at once with a mass edit and had the same problems, so I couldn't isolate the problem then.

But now, with this new ps4, I've tried just one kit and it definitely caused the glitch.
The main thing is animation glitching. Players will warp, they will stutter, the ball will not move away from players properly when dribbling...it will almost be stuck close to their feet and then suddenly be kicked 3 or 4 yards away on the next touch fro no good reason. It's just a general degradation in gameplay and it's so noticeable.

Would be so good to hear what happens for you. I'm just beginning to think it cant just be me...
 
Fan going crazy. PES 2019 triggered the exact same thing. FIFYAWN doesn't cause me that issue. Even GT Sport doesn't.


Fan here too. I'm beginning to wonder whether pes 2020 (and previous pes games) actually damaged my previous ps4 through this fan problem, causing it to overheat.

If this edit mode problem extends to anybody else, I'm seriously considering some sort of action against konami...
 
Mine does the same with PES only.... Hardware problem? Nah don't think so somehow as its not an isolated issue (not just me).

Fan will run loud when there is a heat dissipation issue. This is more likely to happen with highly demanding games as the GFX subsystem will run consistently hot. However, if the heat is within operational limits, the game should not glitch.
PES2020 is not a graphically demanding game, and the fan should not run loud unless the operating environment is super hot, or the ps4 has venting issues such as massive dust build up. Being the PS4 a brand new one, there should not be any venting issues unless the PS4 is placed in an area where the heat is trapped, but I am assuming he does not have the PS4 in an un-ventilated closed box.
If the game is glitching due to the heat, even for a undemanding game like PES2020, there is an absurd amount of heat being generated, and this sounds like a hardware issue.
 
Fan will run loud when there is a heat dissipation issue. This is more likely to happen with highly demanding games as the GFX subsystem will run consistently hot. However, if the heat is within operational limits, the game should not glitch.
PES2020 is not a graphically demanding game, and the fan should not run loud unless the operating environment is super hot, or the ps4 has venting issues such as massive dust build up. Being the PS4 a brand new one, there should not be any venting issues unless the PS4 is placed in an area where the heat is trapped, but I am assuming he does not have the PS4 in an un-ventilated closed box.
If the game is glitching due to the heat, even for a undemanding game like PES2020, there is an absurd amount of heat being generated, and this sounds like a hardware issue.
Hardware issue when only PES causes the fan to ramp up!!?!! Its not as if I don't play other games that aren't graphically and CPU intensive... do me a favour mate :)
 
Fan will run loud when there is a heat dissipation issue. This is more likely to happen with highly demanding games as the GFX subsystem will run consistently hot. However, if the heat is within operational limits, the game should not glitch.
PES2020 is not a graphically demanding game, and the fan should not run loud unless the operating environment is super hot, or the ps4 has venting issues such as massive dust build up. Being the PS4 a brand new one, there should not be any venting issues unless the PS4 is placed in an area where the heat is trapped, but I am assuming he does not have the PS4 in an un-ventilated closed box.
If the game is glitching due to the heat, even for a undemanding game like PES2020, there is an absurd amount of heat being generated, and this sounds like a hardware issue.


The console is in a completely open unit so no issue with that.

My issue with it being hardware is that the game glitches instantly. Before heat can build up. From a cold start. It wouldnt have time to overheat surely?

Where it could be hardware I wonder is if regular ps4 cannot cope with edited teams? And so pes is optimised for ps4 pro levels of hardware grunt?

But then, I'm sure I've seen people with ps4 pro say pes kicks their fan up too...
 
interesting. i have seen pes do way to many random weird glitches where stuff like players telporting and running into each other happens. i wonder if it is the editing/option files?

i usualy put OF on day 1, maybe i shoud try without and then with this year
 
interesting. i have seen pes do way to many random weird glitches where stuff like players telporting and running into each other happens. i wonder if it is the editing/option files?

i usualy put OF on day 1, maybe i shoud try without and then with this year


I know some people get very upset about about the option file talk so please close your eyes for this but...

I'm always surprised by how much more smoothly the pes lite versions play. And I'm pretty sure it's because I've always loaded up an option file on day 1 too and so generally never sampled the unmolested gameplay. I've generally dismissed glitching and warping as part of the experience for years on end...

I'm beginning to wonder now though.
If my pes cant cope with me changing the damn font colour on the back of the shirt from grey to white so its suddenly more visible, who knows... (I specifically remember a pes, it was either pes 4 or pes 2013 where the names and numbers on back of shirts for unlicences teams were left invisible, ie the same colour as the kits, because highlighting them affected the frame rate...and this was confirmed by konami too!)

If others report this manual editing on vanilla version problem, I'm considering borrowing an xbox and moving over to that. I know all through the xbox 360 years pes always played better on it, even the AI routines were more efficient...I've heard similar things with the demo this year from people who have played it on both consoles extensively...
 
Players will warp, they will stutter, the ball will not move away from players properly when dribbling...it will almost be stuck close to their feet and then suddenly be kicked 3 or 4 yards away on the next touch fro no good reason
Well slap me twice and call me vincent..
I DID see this glitch, where ball is getting stuck during the first touch and then suddenly is 3/4 yards away from their feet. It wasnt happening all the time and I didnt think much of it. But I definetely seen this few times.
At the start you were talking about camera glitching and the whole thing being fucked, so I thought you have some bigger thing going on there.
So that is caused by kits Edit? Well shiiiit...
That will save me a lot of time if I come back to vanilla.. :LOL:

Unfortunately I cant see you having any hope going against Konami, as they can easily say its a glitch that was fixed with a patch, so if you want to get it fixed - update the game..
 
Pes made my Ps4 fan loud too, but i managed to make it much more bearable by cleaning the vents and the fan. I have an original model Ps4, not Slim or Pro.
 
Well slap me twice and call me vincent..
I DID see this glitch, where ball is getting stuck during the first touch and then suddenly is 3/4 yards away from their feet. It wasnt happening all the time and I didnt think much of it. But I definetely seen this few times.
At the start you were talking about camera glitching and the whole thing being fucked, so I thought you have some bigger thing going on there.
So that is caused by kits Edit? Well shiiiit...
That will save me a lot of time if I come back to vanilla.. :LOL:

Unfortunately I cant see you having any hope going against Konami, as they can easily say its a glitch that was fixed with a patch, so if you want to get it fixed - update the game..


Yes!! Its not just me! The thing is, the longer you play with the kits edited, the worse the glitching gets. And yes, it's the kits that do it.

Get this though. My brand new fresh slate pes on my brand new ps4 was playing super smooth. As mentioned earlier, just editing one kit screwed the game...reverting it back returned it to smoothness.

But...since making that one change and even though I then reverted the kit to default, ove noticed the game glitching still...even with ajax vs psv. It's nowhere near as bad as playing with an edited kit but it's there.
I noticed this on my previous ps4 but put it down to the ps4 generally bring knackered...

But now, I'm beginning to think that editing a single kit on vanilla will potentially cause that entire edit file to corrupt, even if you revert that kit to default.

And just to confirm, I played at least 4 hours on this new ps4 before I edited a thing because I wanted to ensure these glitches weren't in the vanilla version itself. And during those 4 hours, not a single warp or glitch.

But since that single edit and then reverting to default, little glitches have appeared in the same match-ups and the same stadiums etc I was playing before I ever edited.

I'm now deleting the whole game, save and edit data and starting again with only tactics editing.

So it's either just me or vanilla kit editing is fucked.

As for going against konami, yeah, legally it would be an almost certain lose for me. But I dont see anywhere on there box that I need an internet connection to play thr game smoothly or that edit mode only works for tactics unless you update the game...
I have contacted their customer sevice...will report back.
 
People. Please. It's a myth. It's placebo. Editing kits can't have any influence on the gameplay. If that were the case, it wouldn't be possible to play online with default kits against someone with modded kits, because you would instantly get disconnected due to a mismatch.
 
Which stats are you editing?




✓ GK Awareness (lower)
✓ GK Catching (lower)
✓ GK Clearing (higher)
✓ GK Reflexes (higher)
✓ GK Reach (lower)

Plus

✓ Jump (lower)
✓ Physical Contact(higher)




In this way no more "SUPERMAN GK" and you avoid even biggest jump like "superhero"

I was following a certain scale of values, so the best one in my game is

Alisson Becker 90
Oblak, Ter Stegen 89(less 1/same Overall)
De Gea and Neuer 88(less 2/less 1)
Szczesny, Handanovic,Courtois,Ederson 87(plus 1,No Change, No Change,less 2)
" "
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Etc...


Even if i maintain the same Overall i made same chenges about the stats.

Physical contact is the key about GK nowdays, that's why i put higher especially because a lot of them are very tall and get a massive weight :)

Even Reflexes and Clearing because it's really unusual to see a GK catch the ball every time

And less GK Reach cause not all Gk are able with this kind of stat
 
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