If efootball receives constant updates and fixes... then when will have a complete game? I mean if they are constantly updating, breaking, and fixing his own game when will have a complete full game with no issues? Never and thats is interesting for konami cause on this way we would be "hyped" for every update/fix, is a shame, whole game is a shame
Indeed, totally arbitrary. I disagree we'll get content constant updates and fixes, but yeah overall it's going to be less pegged to particular changes of version or season.
Agreed. Completeness is out the window at this point, and indeed that's been the tendency in this GaaS sector, partly as a means of frontloading excuses for bugs and lack of content or features: problem? don't worry bud, what you want is later on the rOaDmAp.
I agree, and tend to do the same. But the only thing I changed (and I did this after a couple months) with eFlopball is R1 for team press. You talk about button changes making things warped: there's a Konami-created warp for you!
I thought the same at first, and then realised you still need it to override the arc run back to a loose ball e.g. (your player is slower than they're capable of because arcing all the time to the centre of the ball), or for jockeying into position for headers, being physical with other players (the butt push of the manual shield by contrast is useless/hilarious), and so on. Considering that switching is still pretty poor (though a thousand times better than 0.9.x, I found you needed to use SC to properly run into lanes.
I'll grant you that LS movement is better in eFootball, but that's largely it for me. It certainly doesn't fix the worst aspects of PES, and in fact just imports many problems straight over to the new game: players running into each other (actually worse now, because off-ball movement is more active), or running into the path of the ball (very bad on manual passing); no tactical realism or midfield battles (as bad if not worse); actually worse player awareness (I think partially because intercepting has become a 1v1 match-up based command, so AI players are just zombies); weird body pile-ups, or dancing round a ball that nobody can find (worse now); lots of backheels and unnecessary deft passing animations (worse now); and the dreaded animation to try receiving a ball by stretching the back leg out and killing moves 10/10 (maybe slightly less frequent but still there). And that's not to mention the new problems that eFootball brought with it.
No its not , the 2 games are shit .
On the (only) point of disagreement – I see your point. For a little while I was quite astounded and enamoured by the fact that finally my team would push up to the halfway line and a little ahead, especially +1 on attacking. Hadn't seen that in a PES game in a long, long time. But rarely would you get a defending side also pushing up to meet them to compress play, so you practically never see that compressed band of 20 players about the entire width of the midfield circle.
So maybe you mean more than the example you're giving here of how you use midfielders to win matches. If all you did mean was that it was vital to use midfielders to press/recover than break the back line – then yes, I agree that's probably more vital than it's ever been, though it's always been recommended (funny fact: that Mazen guy who was in here for ages being a prat said he was the first person to offer this piece of tactical advice for eFootball
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On the (only) point of disagreement – I see your point. For a little while I was quite astounded and enamoured by the fact that finally my team would push up to the halfway line and a little ahead, especially +1 on attacking. Hadn't seen that in a PES game in a long, long time. But rarely would you get a defending side also pushing up to meet them to compress play, so you practically never see that compressed band of 20 players about the entire width of the midfield circle.
In so many real matches, both teams have pushed up to that sort of distance, and this band of players roves back and forth, usually getting a bit more congested on one side or another. It's much more obvious from the stands, and I think one reason we don't get this on football sims is that they want to replicate the TV viewing experience, where rarely do you get overhead shots. So people don't even notice that the shapes and the spaces are completely inaccurate.
As a result, you still – even with better pushing up – are able to pass a ball from your CB to your CF in pretty much every match in eFootball. There's still acres of space, and in my experience nothing resembling the kind of midfield battle we see all the time in modern football. Nothing where a team really has to focus, patiently, teasing players out of zones to "unpick" a midfield. It's just not there, in my opinion.
So maybe you mean more than the example you're giving here of how you use midfielders to win matches. If all you did mean was that it was vital to use midfielders to press/recover than break the back line – then yes, I agree that's probably more vital than it's ever been, though it's always been recommended (funny fact: that Mazen guy who was in here for ages being a prat said he was the first person to offer this piece of tactical advice for eFootball
So I don't know what to make of what you're saying outside of that sort of case really. Maybe sometime you can paste a video of a good midfield battle. But insofar as I take that phrase to mean what I outlined above – I'm frankly very sceptical!
Agreed, btw, about the conflated tactical systems on PES, the rigidity, and the weird positional shit (dropping AMFs being number one bugbear). So I do think it's a good thing the tactical options are stripped back and that the 5 options on offer are more coherent. But now they need to add stuff back in to make it tweakable, and to be able to get fine-grained with pressing options (more so than what PES had) and how the team should play in different zones and different phases of play.
The thing is, I just don't think they've the appetite for these sorts of changes, and I'm very dubious whether they'll implement things to my satisfaction. I don't think it's a mistake that we only have 5 tactical options and no opportunity to tweak. I think that they wanted that simplicity for mobile crossplay and a "level playing field" on the esports scene. To the extent they allow some depth and complexity, it will be because they decide to veer away from those ambitions.
Oh it wouldn't have anything to do with EA, the "rumour" is that the organisation FIFA are in talks with Konami, not the FIFA game producers.
To be honest i did suspect FIFA doing something like this when the whole EA split happened. Something broke down badly between EA and FIFA, EA NEED that licensing, while they still have a stranglehold on the Premier League, Bundesliga & La Liga especially, the editing capabilities of Konami mean they can survive without having all the important licenses, EA can't. There's a deeper problem which brewed between the two companies and I do agree, would be nice to see no exclusivity, the FIFA license shared among a number of developers.Do you remember the 2005's hot topic/wet dream in PES forums? ..aka "FIFA Evolution Soccer" (a game with FIFA's licenses, presentation and PES gameplay)...
Now we can have it, but it will be neither FIFA, nor Evolution!!!
I'm kidding, in more serious tone, i can't see why EA would share their piece of pie with KONAMI, since they hold much larger playbase/customers, and possibly larger microtransactions profit.
I can see this collaboration possible in the future, if a 3rd footy comes, 2K or whatever else development, that will hold the rights for FIFA license agreement. The same license that EA had until now: FIFA logo, brandname, "prestige", and World Cup rights.
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Yeah, thankfully @Chris Davies imidiatelly corrected me, cause i read it rushed too, and did not pay attention that FIFA was the "governing body" of Football.When I first read it, my immediate thought was why would EA want to collaborate with Konami, then I remembered that EA were ditching the FIFA branding. But it shows that the name FIFA is synonymous with the EA game.
So who knows, if it does become FIFA eFootball, there might be a bunch of uninformed customers out there think it's the next installment of the EA game and blindly buy it, and Konami will make a pile of underhand profit. Except they made just their game free
, but not out of unawareness, but cause i rushed and did not read carefully, the tweet Chris posted.
I think the issue seemed to stem from the fact that FIFA did not get paid a % on the mtx that was making EA billions. They tried to get into that pie and EA said no. So they went with the other obvous route, which is ask for an unreasonable amount of money for the license itself. EA also said no.
I don't think so. KONAMI has already abolished the AAA game producing. Today they are only focused on casino-games,
