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PSMember79 said:
Honestly it’s just saddening to see. These collabs undoubtedly make money, but seeing ‘the pitch is ours’ slogan alongside these promotions is just wrong.
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Thanks god, impossibility to get a latest squad updates now preserving me from even attempts to (playing) see how they achieving very stable "We Can Make it Much Worst" award with every new update in this "hand craft" from KONAMI.
 
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Energia said:
we aren't anymore on PES era... the market is changed with Smartphones gameplayers... not only in Japanese marked
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"Smartphone gameplayer" is smart correct diagnosis of "what's happen with whole game industry" with all it's complete "every-move-in-game" involved micro(macro)transactions system.
 
VierGraustufen said:

eFootball x Naruto Shippuden - Official Collaboration Trailer​

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I think this just serves to settle it, Winning Eleven is dead.

We got a butchered League and Master League modes, no local cooperative play outside of friendly matches, no basic Cup mode, no editor to fix badges and kits despite still having few licenses compared to EA, an UI that looks 10x worse than PES2011 from 2010, graphics that still don't match what we used to get on the PS3 or on modded PES2021. We really did regress in pretty much every way. I've played 8-Bit football/soccer video games more recently and not even they felt so cartoon like to have something like this, I almost find 8-Bit, 16-Bit and arcade titles often more realistic.

What's worse is knowing this is probably very successful for Konami afterall.
 
Bravez said:
I don't even care if they do this shit, just don't do it at the expense of actually making the game better or adding what people genuinely want 🤣

I guess the japanese market is just so vastly different.
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Exactly why we are all so pissed.

I like the anime Naruto. This Rasengan celebration nonsense is no different to the Animal skins from PES 6.

As you say its the fact there's still no full game is the disgrace!
 
klashman69 said:
Exactly why we are all so pissed.

I like the anime Naruto. This Rasengan celebration nonsense is no different to the Animal skins from PES 6.

As you say its the fact there's still no full game is the disgrace!
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Actually is very different. PES 6 included those skinks as "hidden" extras like any classic, that you can unlock with unpurchasable currency as a plus, those being rewarded by playing offline. In this live service, those "skins" are included like some marketing tactics to get more audience hooked to their candy store as some form of "celebration". Until they changed to fox engine I loved PES especially in terms of offline content and unlockables, was a complete game with multitude of modes from the start. In other hand eFootball is developed in mind just as a money machine with cards in it disguised as a "football" with popular anime themes stuffed in it. By changing it is like making a new game, and knowing they have some big demand spending daily to those cards on mobile and consoles, logically they let things slide silently... eFootball was released in 2021, and after 5 years its the same shit show with online predatory modes and weird cosmetics...
 
and then there are these :BRICK:(from Steam forum):


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and this is all!

from Konami's clients target
 
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My opponent celebrated Naruto style once after scoring. I just thought par for the course. I am looking forward to deleting old clips from my hard drive to make space for new ones.
 
etb10dmk said:
Actually is very different. PES 6 included those skinks as "hidden" extras like any classic, that you can unlock with unpurchasable currency as a plus, those being rewarded by playing offline. In this live service, those "skins" are included like some marketing tactics to get more audience hooked to their candy store as some form of "celebration". Until they changed to fox engine I loved PES especially in terms of offline content and unlockables, was a complete game with multitude of modes from the start. In other hand eFootball is developed in mind just as a money machine with cards in it disguised as a "football" with popular anime themes stuffed in it. By changing it is like making a new game, and knowing they have some big demand spending daily to those cards on mobile and consoles, logically they let things slide silently... eFootball was released in 2021, and after 5 years its the same shit show with online predatory modes and weird cosmetics...
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I not arguing with how ethically the animal skins were in as an fun extra in PES6 compared to the way Konami are using this rasengan celebration nonsense as an incentive for people to throw money at their cards.

I'm saying its a disgrace that Konami think this is acceptable as you say 5 years into efootball when the game is still just PES Lite in terms of offline content. Even the online content is all the same old dry Dream Team P2W events!

None of us are happy with this bullshit and we must continue to call out the bullshit from Konami. This P2W obsession will collapse eventually as this exploitative method of pay to will is and will fail as its already growing stale even with players who use it.
 
@klashman69

You wrote: None of us are happy with this bullshit and we must continue to call out the bullshit from Konami.

“We? By ‘we’ you mean us adult men here in the forum. We’re no longer the target audience.
Most of us here grew up with football games, and since 2022 at the latest, we’re no longer part of Konami’s target group.”

“I think we should accept that, even though it still pisses me off again and again.”
 
klashman69 said:
I'm saying its a disgrace that Konami think this is acceptable as you say 5 years into efootball when the game is still just PES Lite in terms of offline content.
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It's even much much worse, because I am earlier for long time was played online in different PES Lite versions on PS4 and know "what I am talking about" (c).
PES Lite online have some fun, have statistics, have a real soccer moments during playing (even with all limits of used game engine). eCardBall have literally nothing of it, because "you are almost excluded from proccess of control game and your players" ...
That's exactly words, "eCardBall - is soccer-themed game with plenty of useless cards".
 
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Are any of you buying the Switch 2 version coming out in June? Looks like it's built for offline, no microtransaction system I believe.
 
PSMember79 said:
Are any of you buying the Switch 2 version coming out in June? Looks like it's built for offline, no microtransaction system I believe.
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I'll buy the physical version (game key card), which is only available in Asia/Japan.
But I don't think it's worth it if you don't already own a Switch 2.
 
VierGraustufen said:
@klashman69

You wrote: None of us are happy with this bullshit and we must continue to call out the bullshit from Konami.

“We? By ‘we’ you mean us adult men here in the forum. We’re no longer the target audience.
Most of us here grew up with football games, and since 2022 at the latest, we’re no longer part of Konami’s target group.”

“I think we should accept that, even though it still pisses me off again and again.”
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Even new generation kids would desire to actually play with their real teams online and offline and take their local club or fantasy minnows to glory at their own place as a compliment to the dream team stuff. Konami are being short sighted on not tapping into this market which buys their rival game in EA26 simply to get their football fix.

This disguising practice of profit promotional events only via dream team hurts their reputation and the stale single casuals consumer market will fail eventually without real substance.

efootball is simply not fashionable or respected no matter how profitable its been for Konami. As soon as the stale hits the main target market hard and profits start to dwindle this will result in a tragic slow destruction until they face reality. They need to provide a full product to stay relative.
 
VierGraustufen said:
@klashman69
I don't think younger adults are looking for a simulation. Maybe I'm wrong.
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These things always go in cycles and it isn't just gaming. FIFA changed the game when they introduced FUT, players loved it (me included for a couple of years) and the publishers eyes lit up. The issue is, it's the same with everything, companies see what's working and then totally oversaturate and milk it until either A. people get totally sick of it and stop buying/playing or B. people find an alternative which suddenly gains massive popularity and forces their hands to change.

Unfortunately at the moment, all alternatives are just a play on the FUT model. Battle Royale games are going through a similar patch too. It always used to be arena shooters, then the BR boom, now everyone's trying to be the next BR when actually people are just bored of BRs and need the "next BR" whatever that looks like. The thing is, a lot of the time people don't realise they want an alternative until it arrives, or they do but there isn't one (like now).

Other games or competitors in these markets kind have to follow the trend for fear of being left behind. Remember when FIFA had to adapt to master league, start focusing more on small details like sock tape and low socks because that's what made PES so immersive? However, I'm pretty confident the first game that decides to go back to finding the balance between realism and simulation, rather than tiktok brained madness, will quickly become the blueprint.

Maybe it's my echo chamber but broadly, the sentiment for football game seems as bad as it's ever been. Whatever I watch or read, people are unhappy so it's ripe for a change.

Edit: I actually think smaller, more niche games, are probably more popular than ever. These smaller, alternative games get such huge numbers if and when they blow up. With the sentiment for football games being on the floor I don't think there's ever been a better time for someone to step in. With the foundation eFootball has, a rebrand back to PES, keeping their shitty card system as a separate (maybe even f2p mode like warzone is) would absolutely bang if they got it right. Nostalgia is big business generally right now, unfortunately Konami can't be trusted to do what they need to and polish the game the way they'd need to get it done.
 
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