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When I was still in contact with people connected to the local Hong Kong Konami office (at least 5 years ago), I heard that myClub was making a lot of money (it sounded like at least 10 times the revenue from game sales). At the time, they gave an example of someone spending around HK$10,000 (around £1000) in a single week to draw players.

In the past, I wouldn't have agreed with bundling Master League and Edit Mode together. Even with just an Edit Mode, you could add kits for unlicensed teams in eFootball for online use (similar to what ePatch and PES 2021 Lite do now). However, Konami seems to have made no moves on this, which is speechless and makes one feel that they only care about making money from cards and have disregarded all other things enhancing the authenticity.

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This year is the 30th anniversary and a World Cup year, which is why I was anticipating the return of offline modes.

Looking back at their old roadmap, the one they released in 2021, they've only just completed the things planned for Autumn 2021 with the recent version 4.4. The cross-platform matches and mobile controller support they wanted to do in Winter have likely been cancelled (because they need to run their eSports competitions on two separate platforms).
 
VierGraustufen said:
@SiuMing
What was the office responsible for?

External game programming? Gameplay?
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Marketing in Asia except EMEA area & Japan I believe, it is also the office the previous eFootball PES producer, Manorito Hosoda reloacted to. Development are all in Japan as far as I know.
 
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Fed up of waiting for Master League too, so I installed PES 2021 on my PS5 Pro earlier. Picked up with an old Master League I'd started. Played about 4 games, which is about as many games I've played on EFootball this year. Only stopped because I had to make dinner! Just wish PES 2021 still had the UEFA Champions League and Europa League licencing from earlier years. Made it so much better when qualifying for those with the music and branding.
 
SiuMing said:
This year is the 30th anniversary and a World Cup year, which is why I was anticipating the return of offline modes.
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It really is baffling... I mean, how hard can it be to add a simple editor and offline modes as DLC? It's been 4 years already, it should be easy money, it just goes to show how little they care about us offline players who carried the franchise all through out the PS1 and PS2 eras, even the PS3 one since that had no microtransactions either despite the online modes being a bigger deal. It seems like they'll do the same they did for the 2022 World Cup, an even with a ton of cards, without even following a proper World Cup structure with groups, top goals scorers and assists... nothing. Anyone else remember that? I gave it a shot and didn't enjoy it much, but whatever, at least it's better than nothing, so let me go and replay it since I liked it so much... oh, wait, it's literally lost media, just like everything eFootball's had so far. I loved going back to older titles, it's like a time capsule to a previous season, it's fun!

Superhoop said:
Fed up of waiting for Master League too, so I installed PES 2021 on my PS5 Pro earlier. Picked up with an old Master League I'd started. Played about 4 games, which is about as many games I've played on EFootball this year. Only stopped because I had to make dinner! Just wish PES 2021 still had the UEFA Champions League and Europa League licencing from earlier years. Made it so much better when qualifying for those with the music and branding.
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This is just going to be the option we have going forward, sticking to previous titles with mods/patches on PC, and option files on PS4/PS5, the PES titles that seem to get the most attention are often the ones that ended cycles, so we'll mostly stick with Winning Eleven 2002, PES 6, PES 2013 and PES 2021, a good set I think, it's just a big shame how this is the peak of the genre, no more looking forward to something truly new, getting excited for it, it sucks...
 
MKC said:
no more looking forward to something truly new, getting excited for it, it sucks...
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This is what I miss the most. The end of summer & you're getting excited for the next PES, eagerly looking forward to the demo & playing it to death before release and talking about it on here. It was always my favorite time of year whether the game was good or bad.

Efootball has barely changed since release. It's had minor incremental updates. No graphical overhaul, same engine & gameplay. It never feels fresh or new. It's an empty shell and yet millions are still lapping it up & spending big money.
You can't really fault Konami for pivoting their business model because it's obviously been very successful.
The lack of effort they put in though is genuinely disgusting. It's everything wrong with modern gaming.

I have no love for FIFA/EA FC but at least that fan base still have the yearly excitement of a new game, good or bad.
 
It's crazy that PES2021 has better graphics than EFootball. Even though I enjoy the gameplay of EFootball, there's no incentive to play more than 1 game every so often as someone who doesn't play online. FC25 is visually very impressive and shows what can be achieved with the current gen, but even though I actually enjoyed it (as it has a proper career mode) the gameplay is just not PES, so back to Master League on 2021. I am rubbish at it though, even on Professional. My ML I rejoined was only about 30 games in to my first season (I got 2021 on disc in about 2022 when I realised it would be the final ever PES so not played nearly as much as 2020). I was 3rd in the Championship with QPR and through to semi final of FA Cup having beaten Man City 1-0. Most of my players are rated below 70. Top player is 73. Played about 10 matches yesterday. Drew about 3 and lost the rest. Scored about 5 goals. All came in 3 games. Lost to Spurs on the FA Cup 2-0. Now about 10th on the Championship with about 7 games left. I've hit a bad rut of form which happens to me on every PES then everything just clicks and I become decent at it again! Hopefully today so I can sneak back into the playoffs.
 
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Look right now to PES 2021, its still a brilliant game, great visuals, great gameplay, superb modding.

If Konami wants, they could create an excellent football game; they have great player models in eFootball and know how to make a Master League.

BUT they won't !!!

They want as much money with a minimum effort, in programming, marketing, publishing... they don't want you to play a league with authentic teams.

They want you to pay for bullshit cards and nothing more! Even that Bullshit Card game focus ruins the gameplay.
 
elloco said:
Look right now to PES 2021, its still a brilliant game, great visuals, great gameplay, superb modding.

If Konami wants, they could create an excellent football game; they have great player models in eFootball and know how to make a Master League.

BUT they won't !!!

They want as much money with a minimum effort, in programming, marketing, publishing... they don't want you to play a league with authentic teams.

They want you to pay for bullshit cards and nothing more! Even that Bullshit Card game focus ruins the gameplay.
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I think even developpers are not the same from pes era
 
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