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Paul-v said:
I really wanted to see if this game is salvageable before putting any time into modding it properly. Creating tooling for it has been a pain.

I think after an hour or so of digging, this is my early thoughts;

"Authentic mode" is a complete sham. What you have is the same as Competitive, plus some very small changes, like line gaps and small changes to physics here and there. Otherwise EA are fully reliant on sliders (again) to do all of the work, and they don't work lol

I switched back to "Competitive Mode" and started modding from there and was instantly getting better results. And to highlight, EA can do this, but for some reason, havent!

In my quick video of a 1st half below, you can see its fairly easy to get some of the major problems with the game fixed fairly easily:
- Animations smoothed and more planted (apart from the odd occurance)
- Pass accuracy is no longer 99% and players can quite easily make mistakes or it can go slightly wayward, not like a laser
- Physicality is back in the midfield (but not fixed entirely, especially the possession tackles, which EA should remove from the game)
- First touch actually matters and players can make mistakes
- Players are not complete gods of understanding where everything is, so nothing is immediate or "1 frame"



It just really annoys me that EA haven't gone anywhere close to this themselves. They added the entire authentic system and then just didnt bother. I dont get it.
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Paul, many of us see and plays the same the last days. I just hope you get into till the journey ends again next september and keep what you have doing since when?? 2011 I guess. To fix the gameplay and now helping to mod it since years with your tool. It´s great to let us know what currently is the state by trying to mod this new Game... again... I can´t imagine how much brain cells it burns for you when I am reading your posts on your discord channel. Other than obviously FIFER. I just read today he avoids Members of his channel to give an "first" update how FET are going into a moding tool this year. So it seems pretty bad ass this fc season like you already stated. I can live a year without modding fc 26 which I haven´t bought currently. I have 5 hours left on my 10h trial and today I use some of them to test some things like texture replacing with FMT, though.

Just wanna say, hope you are still get the fire power to fix EA´s misses with your tool and your GP Mod. If not the world circles further. :D
 
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saturator said:
When I saw pc version, it feels différent than consoles version. The skating is worst, i can't explain why I have these feeling.

I like so much this FC 26. Maybe I will be the only one😂 but on Anthentique mode, the game is better.

I have made a test against United. First game on classic gameplay, the other with Authentic gameplay. The speed, the flow, the CPU behaviour are better. The time that the CPU have to build his attack or défense, so see more crosses. I have 11 crosses in a game of 8 minutes by halftime! Never happen before.

My only problem is the lack of faults. My pad has vibration, I see a CPU arm on m'y shirt, but sometilhing invisible made that the fault didn't happen 🥶.

I will do my best to find a way to see that on the pitch.

I have post the videos on the slider's topic😉
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I will try the game at my friends Ps5 to see the difference. But I know from last year the console Versio is softer and less animation ugly than PC Version. Tbh I played FC 25 last year on my PS 4 Pro and it was cool without an impact of animation worthness. I wished to port it over to default PC Version. It was on both consoles different on Ps4 Pro and Ps5.
 
Byronic said:
I will try the game at my friends Ps5 to see the difference. But I know from last year the console Versio is softer and less animation ugly than PC Version. Tbh I played FC 25 last year on my PS 4 Pro and it was cool without an impact of animation worthness. I wished to port it over to default PC Version. It was on both consoles different on Ps4 Pro and Ps5.
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Ps5 version looks horrible like blurry and washed out and there's also random stutters. I play pes21 modded on the same TV in 4k and the difference is night and day.
 
hitmanuk said:
Ps5 version looks horrible like blurry and washed out and there's also random stutters. I play pes21 modded on the same TV in 4k and the difference is night and day.
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Graphics I can confirm from last year FC 25 on Ps5 are the same. Wasn´t pretty, I agree. Seems EA didn´t waste much resources on things that was standard. Fifa 18 or FIFA 19 looking truly better than FC 26 on PC. Been tensed when I get a look into it gameplay wise on Ps5. On Sunday I visit my friend and than I can made up my mind.
 
Paul-v said:
I really wanted to see if this game is salvageable before putting any time into modding it properly. Creating tooling for it has been a pain.

I think after an hour or so of digging, this is my early thoughts;

"Authentic mode" is a complete sham. What you have is the same as Competitive, plus some very small changes, like line gaps and small changes to physics here and there. Otherwise EA are fully reliant on sliders (again) to do all of the work, and they don't work lol

I switched back to "Competitive Mode" and started modding from there and was instantly getting better results. And to highlight, EA can do this, but for some reason, havent!

In my quick video of a 1st half below, you can see its fairly easy to get some of the major problems with the game fixed fairly easily:
- Animations smoothed and more planted (apart from the odd occurance)
- Pass accuracy is no longer 99% and players can quite easily make mistakes or it can go slightly wayward, not like a laser
- Physicality is back in the midfield (but not fixed entirely, especially the possession tackles, which EA should remove from the game)
- First touch actually matters and players can make mistakes
- Players are not complete gods of understanding where everything is, so nothing is immediate or "1 frame"



It just really annoys me that EA haven't gone anywhere close to this themselves. They added the entire authentic system and then just didnt bother. I dont get it.
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Do you still see 2 separate gameplays or could you, for example, mod one side without affecting the other?
 
Chris Davies said:
Still in the trial period. Thought I'd try the patch.

The AI score this against me. It feels even less natural than usual but I don't know why it feels so "off".

Watched the close-up replay...

.. Hypermotion - if this is Hypermotion's fault - just get in the bin.



Skating on the standing leg to deliver the perfect first-time shot. Hot mess.
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I hate these type of goals. The weird angle first time shot hitting top corner.
 
Paul-v said:
I really wanted to see if this game is salvageable before putting any time into modding it properly. Creating tooling for it has been a pain.

I think after an hour or so of digging, this is my early thoughts;

"Authentic mode" is a complete sham. What you have is the same as Competitive, plus some very small changes, like line gaps and small changes to physics here and there. Otherwise EA are fully reliant on sliders (again) to do all of the work, and they don't work lol

I switched back to "Competitive Mode" and started modding from there and was instantly getting better results. And to highlight, EA can do this, but for some reason, havent!

In my quick video of a 1st half below, you can see its fairly easy to get some of the major problems with the game fixed fairly easily:
- Animations smoothed and more planted (apart from the odd occurance)
- Pass accuracy is no longer 99% and players can quite easily make mistakes or it can go slightly wayward, not like a laser
- Physicality is back in the midfield (but not fixed entirely, especially the possession tackles, which EA should remove from the game)
- First touch actually matters and players can make mistakes
- Players are not complete gods of understanding where everything is, so nothing is immediate or "1 frame"



It just really annoys me that EA haven't gone anywhere close to this themselves. They added the entire authentic system and then just didnt bother. I dont get it.
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Looks pretty nice. It's weird they created a separate category for authentic and still kept the same values as competitive. Even in the trailer, they were saying how authentic have different pass speed or whatever. Did they forgot to merge their changes?
 
SP83 said:
What FIFA game was it where the ball stopped being a free 'enitity'?

I'm playing FIFA 14 and the ball is so loose. There are deflections, missed controlled touches, loose passes, scuffed shots and it's all because the ball is free to do it's thing and isn't on a pre-determined laser guide to the nearest player who magically instantly controls it.

If the ball was freed up, the game would straight away be 50% more enjoyable.
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I personally think FIFA 20 was that game, but I’m sure other people here will think it was earlier than that
 
There's a poll active in the official EAFC Discord right now.

I know it doesn't impact Authentic Mode but even so... Really disappointing numbers, as I'd like to play online again before I die (if it felt like football).

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Our votes won't make any difference but in-case you'd like to vote, and you're on Discord, click here.
 
Also - we're all aware of the lack of national teams, and there's a reason for it, but it doesn't stop it being such a shame (it's poor not to be able to do a fake World Cup with friends even).

The title of the video is over-dramatic as well, but it's a valid point nonetheless.

 
I just noticed something odd, not sure if it is worthy of noting - I always check my game settings at the start of each session, when I looked at the CPU behaviour I actually changed it to ‘Dynamic’. Underneath, all of the slider settings were set to 50. So I switched it back to Tactical, and again all of the slider sets below were set to 50.

However, when I flick to custom they all display random figures (as if what you would expect to see for Tactical or Dynamic). Has anyone else noticed this?
 
Kopite1990 said:
I just noticed something odd, not sure if it is worthy of noting - I always check my game settings at the start of each session, when I looked at the CPU behaviour I actually changed it to ‘Dynamic’. Underneath, all of the slider settings were set to 50. So I switched it back to Tactical, and again all of the slider sets below were set to 50.

However, when I flick to custom they all display random figures (as if what you would expect to see for Tactical or Dynamic). Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yes, that happens to me too. But if I load a saved career mode game, the sliders are set correctly.
 
nicetoknowyou said:
Yes, that happens to me too. But if I load a saved career mode game, the sliders are set correctly.
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Nice one mate, this was in the settings menu on my career mode - I’ll see what happens next time I load up the game.

Out of interest, what AI behaviour settings have people gone with so far? I have stuck with Tactical, not entirely sure what the main differences are between this and Dynamic.
 
Kopite1990 said:
Nice one mate, this was in the settings menu on my career mode - I’ll see what happens next time I load up the game.

Out of interest, what AI behaviour settings have people gone with so far? I have stuck with Tactical, not entirely sure what the main differences are between this and Dynamic.
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I use custom because the CPU AI is extremely bad in attack.
 
Giving us 2, if i can say it, version like Authentic is the best idea but i won't buy it, not at the first try at least. I will wait if next year it will be improved but they can't totally build two version of the same core engine in a same package, i mean from what they cares and how many we are to wait about it.

Got a lot of modded games with current rosters, like you i would have preferred something a bit new but except the presentation and some animations Fifa Authentic doesn't seems to be something that worth 60 or 70 euros (when you have others games / accessory on your target)
Still a bad taste in my troath of their 6 last previous years when i watch authentic vids. They disgusted me so long gameplay wise that even if i'm hungry of football games, i'm pretty sure i'll be disappointed and forgive it too soon.

I was glad about their decision but for the future : they already missed out their new feature since the first introduction, if not at each new version introducing a game changer feature. There's a lot of example but it's not the subject. I hope they won't leave you/us for next year, with practically no corrective update.

I read that it wasn't the same feeling than the sliders, which is a good point. I will try probably when price will drop in discount pretty sure, but i'm curiously not curious about what that first version can change. I suppose not enough if you really hated 20 to 25.
FIFA 20 for different reason : challenge zero but at least it felt a bit more football than "next-gen" *cough cough versions.
 
Fifa 17, i remind that i really liked the feeling, but there was at least for me a game breaker : the L2+X laser pass. It worked too well, there wasn't a time to charge the pass and didn't affected that much the ball control.
That's what pushed me to stop quickly to play. Even now i still hate that move, even if i remember it was far less effective in Fifa 19
 
The game is so easy, I am kind of getting bored and my trial isn't even up. The build up is so good this year but the attacking third for both team is kinda stale. It's all about making 50 passes around the box looking for an opening. AI is either too perfect in positioning or completely brain dead regardless of the defender's attributes. And you have to select very specific player roles otherwise you barely get any players making attacking runs. They all just kinda stand around on the attacking third. CPU in attack is also the same problem. They are obsessed with keeping possession rather than progressing to attack. Eventually for both human and CPU, you pass around the box like 20 times and eventually the CB will part away like the red sea and you get an easy 1 on 1 goal. And it doesn't help how much the CPU likes to back off instead of closing down.

And against players like Salah, Saka, etc, you can easily tackle them since they will run straight on without protecting the ball or trying to avoid your tackle.
 
Tried a match on Legendary after losing 5-0 to Monaco as Real Madrid in a UCL kick off match. Finished 3-3. I'm not sure what to make of it tbh. I felt before UCL upgrades to a higher level of difficulty from what plays in a normal match. Might have to try a UCL match on Legendary to see how it goes. I'm a bit lost at the difficulty I should be at. Professional seems to easy for me from that first match auto difficulty thing
 
Topaz said:
I use custom because the CPU AI is extremely bad in attack.
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Do you use some specific values? At the moment I'm using tactical but it's way too easy to defend.

One more thing: the update definitively changed something in competitive gameplay. It's easier to break the defence now, my games are ending 4-1, 4-2, 6-1 etc. at ultimate difficulty so I had to switch back to authentic gameplay. Now my games are ending mostly 1-0 but the AI attacking is not dangerous enough. To find the sweet spot this year is really difficult but the base is better than the last years.
 
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Difficulty balance is off imo. The difference between professional and world class is an almighty chasm. Given it’s one step up in the difficulty ladder it should reflect that but instead it feels like 3 steps up. On the whole I’m enjoying it but the animation flow between running and shooting is broken….there seems to be a complete break which results in the twitch then skate movement rather than letting them flow through. This is what you get when you code in over responsive behaviours. The button press dictates the flow of the animation therefore breaking steps in mid flight.

As Chris et Al have already eluded to, the headers are utterly archaic. In some instances it’s like the ball suddenly hits an unknown velocity after contact with a forehead!

Overall I’m enjoying it for what it is, I’ve had some really great moments and great games.
 
Here are some more random old gen clips from the 10 hour trial.
A small detail but I don't think I've seen it before

A nice pass from Trossard to Gyokeres (I'm not using manual passing btw so it was nice to see) EDIT: actually I have manual lobbed through pass on *facepalm*

An awful corner kick routine

Arteta raging on the sidelines after Madueke gets tackled

Not gameplay related but 'Humble Gabriel' gave me flashbacks to the MCI 2-2 ARS game at the Etihad last season lol

An awful free kick
 
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Decided to try it on EA trial and well... it's better than 25 and 24. I guess it could be a somewhat entertaining game, but it definitely is a pretty shitty football game.

I tried playing default competitive and it seemed everyone was on crack, pretty much 3 passes to cover the entire field, shoot on goal, miss, the other team does the same rinse and repeat at 100km/h. so that is a no-go.

Authentic played better but I felt AI was for me a bit too robotic and sometimes too perfect, I would get close to them and they would start doing skills and perfectly ping pong passing the ball. It seems they make mistakes/ lose the ball only when they are close to my box.

The big problem I have with the latest games and maybe its a skill issue but 75% of the goals they scored on me was because my AI defender would prefer to go and mark another attacker that is not even involved in the play or he would just be daydreaming while an attacker just waltzes in. As always its Moses parting the Red Sea when an attacker with the ball comes. Defensive AI is extremely poor.

Played around an hr and a half, In that period I didn't see 1 foul.

On the positive side I think the colors look better and not so saturated and animations are smoother than before (although Fifa still has weird unnatural movements, players are kinda hunched over, some movements look like there are missing a few Frames).

I kept thinking to myself: is this the best footy game I can play now, or am I forcing myself to find positives and enjoy it because it's new? Heck I even enjoy Fifa 22 more even with its hypermotion and 1v1 junk so I don't know if they are getting worse or Im getting old.

I didn't use all my 10hr trial in FC25 and Im not really urging to play this tomorrow so it'll probably be the same...

TL;DR Same ol fifa but with mascots
 
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