Ok, so I can say "fuck off" to Arsenal for asking for high prices? Jesus, it's the typical market proceedings. The selling club tries to earn more and the buying side tries to lower the price. There's nothing wrong in the way Barcelona is approaching the transfer of Song. It's the same process Arsenal has took with lots of players they signed.
You can be fustrated with Barcelona signing several Arsenal players, but come on, Arsenal does the same with smaller clubs and it's only hipocresy when you cant' see this.
We had to suffer this exact process when Toure went for City. I didn't say "fuck off" to Man City fans or the club, because we're all in a market, City came with money and Toure wanted to go (mainly because he would earn a lot more, just like Song). The richest club sign players from the poorer ones. What the hell is Barcelona doing wrong here? Wanting a player? Wanting it in a lower price? Negotiating? Don't make me laugh.
You're full of hipocresy, because that's what ALL clubs want and what all DO when they CAN. The problem of Arsenal is that it can't keep the good players. But if you want I can remind you how Arsenal get most of those young promises in the young teams.
As most of you know, Arsenal is my second club, and it hurts me to see how the club is positioned in the market. There's a problem when your good players always go away. And the board could have been strong and decide not to sell any of the players they have in the last 4-5 years. If they do is because the board is ok with this. So I say it again, blame the board.
And by the way, Edmundo, I've never said Barcelona is golden and perfect. That's your words, not mine. If you take a minimal effort, you'll see how I can perfectly have positive and negative oppinions about my club or any other. For instance, I was very critic with Barcelona being stupidly vocal with all the Fabregas conflict. But that's not the case with Song. So I think you missed your target quite a lot here.
Well yeah you can say fuck off to any team if you don't agree with what they're doing, because you wouldn't be insulting anyone.
I don't know why you get things that are said here so close to the heart. I'm obviously not insulting you.
First of all, some Barcelona players are actually being vocal about this. Iniesta and Busquets said stuff to the press already projecting Song in a Barcelona shirt, saying he has what it takes to be there, etc etc. This is quite disrespectful IMO, tapping up players in public like that, and using your own star footballers to do so.
But guess what, when the press asked Fabregas about his former team mate, he knew it was wrong to say anything before it becomes official. Cesc just said something like "Song is a player under contract, I don't know nothing, I won't talk about it, etc". Now that's class, that's the right thing to do.
Fab is a class act, but people like Puyol, Busquets, Pique, and now Iniesta, they're all showing how they're a classless bunch.
Barcelona has the right to negotiate and bargain, as everybody does in the market. But just leave your players out of it.
I agree today's prices are too crazy and £15m should be enough for a player like Song, but you have to play by the rules of capitalism, and teams like Madrid, Chelsea, City, PSG, United and even Barcelona have been skewing the market with the crazy transfer fees and wages they pay.
I'm especially pissed off to see Arsenal accepting this £15m fee in a market where Stewart Downing costs £20m. This is clearly not right, so if Rossel signs Song for £15m consider yourself lucky. And I see no need to involve players talking shit to the press, to unsettle our players and try to get a lower value. This is a low blow IMO. This is a very familiar situation for us Arsenal fans lately.
Song is 24 years old, his contract goes until July 2014 and he was one of the Premier League's best DM last season. So I suggest the Barcelona board put their money where their mouth is.
If I had a say in Arsenal matters, there's no way I'd allow him to go now for that fee.
Having said that, I kind of understand what Wenger has been trying to do now. He is clearly willing to let go a failed generation of players. Wenger has an impressive resume and he's a winner and he, of all people, must be sick and tired of all this talk of players wanting to leave Arsenal because they "want to win trophies". But these players (Van Persie and Song included) must understand that they are part of that failure. They have grown used to losing, they accept defeat easier than others like Vermaelen and Sczcesny for example. Eight years without trophy it's though, I know, we've had difficulties, but now let's move on. We need new people hungry to win and happy to play for The Arsenal. No more bullshit talk of leaving to win trophies.
So I'm guessing Arsene Wenger wants to start everything over again with a clean slate.
No more people managed by Darren Dean, first of all, and no more reminiscent players from 6-7 years ago (except seemingly loyal players like Sagna).
It seems to be a revolution indeed.