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Arsenal`s Success Is Bad News For Chelski

On Friday, the headline on Martin Samuel's piece in the Times read: "Grant appointment makes Chelsea no more than a rich man's plaything". To some of us the first three words of that article were unnecessary: regular readers will know I've been pointing that out for a while - if you type "Philip Cornwall" and "plaything" into Google then the first answer is a Chelsea fan calling me a "Gooner hack" in December 2004 for using the term, among other things.

Now I know a few "Gooner hacks", though I'm not one of them. But something else I have been saying for a while is that Arsenal's investment in Ashburton Grove was sound, the only problem being that the sudden unexpected influx of money at Stamford Bridge meant that there was an awkward price to pay while that money came on stream.

Arsenal have reported their first financial results since the move from Highbury. They are especially significant at a time when the board are under pressure from other shareholders. The figures can, as Mediawatch showed yesterday, be interpreted in more than one way.

There was a drop in pre-tax profits from £15.9m to £5.6m, which was the bad news. On the other, a 45 per cent rise in turnover - to you and me, income - to just over £200m, which was the good news. There's also confusion. Reuters reported that the pre-tax profits would have been worse but for the sale of Thierry Henry - yet that move happened in late June and these were supposed to be the figures for the year ending 31 May. Odd. And, despite misleading headlines, they are not the richest club, just the one with the biggest income.

Whatever, Arsenal are in profit. They make more than £3m a match at the Emirates. The much maligned corporate tier brings in more at each game than the whole of Highbury did. And, though it is early days, the team are top of the league this season - with a wage bill that Deloitte estimated to be perhaps the second highest in the division, paid for by that new ground. The margins, thanks to the interest charge, are small. It will be years before the debts are paid off in full. But none the less the Gunners are getting an excellent return on their investment and they have cash in the bank, too.

A trophyless season was still a massive financial success story given interest payments and one-off charges, and if the team now start to deliver then next year's results will make even more pleasant reading. Unless you are, say, Peter Kenyon.

And I wonder to what extent the crisis at Chelsea should be seen as a product of success elsewhere. At the beginning of August, research was published by Hitwise on a like-for-like basis of the UK traffic for the websites of the 20 Premier League clubs. And Arsenal came in third, with a 10.9 per cent share, headed by Manchester United (15.4 per cent) and Liverpool (17.3 per cent). When you look at global traffic, the top two positions are reversed, but Arsenal stay third.

What is fascinating is what happens to Chelsea. With international traffic, they rank fourth. But in UK numbers, they are an astonishing 11th. After four years of Abramovich, two Premiership titles, hundreds of millions of pounds, more Britons wanted the official view on Spurs, Newcastle, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Sunderland and Aston Villa than wished to read ChelseaPravda.com in the week ending 4th August.

In October 2005, Kenyon told the Independent: "The importance of London is critical in our strategy. London today is one of the top three cities in the world. The first objective is to own London." In part he was talking about being associated globally with the city in a way that Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham are not. But if you want to know why there were only 25,000 at the Bridge last Tuesday, then the suggestion that the Blues are only the capital's fourth biggest side may play a part.

Peter Hill-Wood, the Arsenal chairman, was quick to use his club's results - a turnover £47m more than Chelsea's figures for 2005-06 - to stomp all over Kenyon's ambitions. "I don't want to run Chelsea down," he began, before running Chelsea down. "One has to concede Manchester United and Liverpool are probably the biggest names in UK football and probably throughout the world. For Chelsea to think they are suddenly going to dominate United and Liverpool is fantasy."

Of course a strong Arsenal is bad news for the other two big red clubs. But it's worse for Chelsea - United have increased income at their ground and Liverpool are building a new one, while Chelsea cannot sell the capacity they have. Despite their success and global presence, they have not attracted new paying supporters in sufficient numbers. They are losing huge sums each year. A change of strategy was needed if they were to cut their losses.

Diehard Chelsea fans may have been delighted by recent success and outraged by Jose Mourinho's dismissal. But Kenyon and co take the diehards for granted as they bid to bring in new paying customers at a greater rate. Perhaps a more attractive playing style would be the answer and for that a change of coach was needed. Mourinho's departure was a lot about a billionaire's ego. But, as Arsenal's business plan reaps reward, it may also have been about the problems Chelsea's has run into.
 
^^^Thats a great article ^^^

3 months ago many Arsenal fans were concerned about the future so hows this for a progress report?:

Well financed club - check
Money for transfers - check
New Wenger contract - check
Managing without Henry - check
Filling the stadium - check
Playing beautiful football - check
Top of the PL - check
 
Cant wait to see our second string playing tonight. Just looked through it and it should still be quite a strong team.

I really want to see how bendtner does and the bloke we signed from chelsea.

And I really want to beat Allardyce!!
 
^^^Thats a great article ^^^

3 months ago many Arsenal fans were concerned about the future so hows this for a progress report?:

Well financed club - check
Money for transfers - check
New Wenger contract - check
Managing without Henry - check
Filling the stadium - check
Playing beautiful football - check
Top of the PL - check

Another win over that fat walrus c*nt - check!

Great goal by Denilson, and Senderos had a blinder! :applause:

Well, one blinding moment. The rest of the game it has to be said was decidedly shaky for Big Phil. I feel for him at the moment, the knives are out a bit. At one stage he slipped onto his arse and the gasps and comments from the fans were shall we say, unprintable. He got his reward with the Martins block, although if I'm being picky, the 'young' Nigerian really should have finished better.

Yesterday I was a bit derisory about Song, and today I'm not so much eating humble pie, but at least nibbling on the crust. He genuinely looked very good. He read the game well all night and to me looks much more a centre half than a centre mid, eclipsing Senderos all night . Maybe, just maybe he's got a future with us after all.

Diarra was the bizniz, 1st team material for me! He turned our hairy moments into comfortable possession. Invaluable, especially at just £2m!

Quick props to Fabianski, who although he didn't have much to do, did everything asked of him with aplomb, including a decent, parrying save from Martins early on.

Haven't even mentioned Denilson, aka Fab mk 2, or the incisive, tricky Traore. Overall a great morale boost.
 
I say Arsenal should get robhino and podolski in the winter transfer both unhappy at their current club!
would be great addition for us up front and on the wing since rosicky is soso and helb is kind of old.
 
At 26?!?

Mind you, at Arsenal that is getting on a bit so fair point...

jokes aside:D... Hleb is fine... and just when Rosicky was pretty much on fire with us he gets injured agian :(... its not a disaster i mean we can play Diaby out there for the time being and we still have 30million different midfield options... so Robinho isn't necessary, it would be nice, but isn't a need atm...

Podolski, maybe during the African nations... if Togo qualify... then we'd pick him up to cover Adebayor...
 
during ACN we face WHU , Birham ,Newc ,Rover(at home )and (away)Fulham , MCity , Birham not bad for Jan-Feb really I say buy CB only just pray they come back injured free
 
:lmao: @ Man Utd. I guess this proves we have the best young players in the country.

One match on a freezing Wednesday night doesn't prove anything mate. I personally prefer the current bunch of Arsenal's youngsters to United's but don't ever write off Fergie's fledglings. He hasn't conistently won the Premiership over the last 10-15 years with old men, has he?
 
Poor Hleb.

The referee is a joke. It happened twice and he gave 2 yellow cards. In Ligue 1, both players would have been sent off.

How can you play football against butchers ?
 
At least we got the win. We have been having a lot more home games that away though, which has been good for morale and hopefully will get us through the away games.

Oh, and Drogba's big comeback was today :lmao:
 
That should've been a red and a ban. Sometimes watching EPL highlights I can't believe the number of murderous tackles that get away with yellow cards...
then you`ll see a undeserved red card for mikel against ManUtd, it`s all depends on the day.... officials need to get things right it`s too obvious and sadly even pes2008 has dive features
 
Arsenal are just winning all over the place at the moment! I LOVE watching them when they are in this mood, it really is a pleasure. You couldn't win at home convincingly last season let alone pick up three points away! The Gooners are making the Premiership very interesting this season and deserve to be in top spot. It certainly beats watching Chelsea win every game 1-0 with long-balls to Drogba. :)
 
WHOA! 'Iron Leg' Hleb travels!

Hleb travels but four face fitness tests in Bucharest

Steaua Bucharest v Arsenal
Champions League Group Stage
Stadionul Ghencea
Tue, Oct 2, 2007, 7.45pm



By Chris Harris

Arsène Wenger will wait for news on a quartet of players before naming his team to face Steaua Bucharest on Tuesday night.

Alex Hleb has travelled to Romania despite being stretchered off at West Ham on Saturday and the Belarussian is not the only one nursing an injury after the hard-fought victory at Upton Park.

Emmanuel Adebayor (thigh), Mathieu Flamini (groin) and Abou Diaby (ankle) also face fitness tests before Arsenal resume their Champions League campaign.

"Alex Hleb will travel," confirmed Wenger before flying out to Romania. "We tested him for a check on his bone and a decision will be made tomorrow over whether he will play or not.

"Emmanuel Adebayor will travel but we will make a decision on him as well. It looks a little less good than it did. Mathieu Flamini has a knock on his groin. Abou Diaby has a knock on his ankle so we need to check on them.

"William Gallas, Eduardo, Alex Song, Jens Lehmann and Tomas Rosicky are all still out."

Arsenal squad to face Steaua Bucharest:

24 Manuel ALMUNIA
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI
25 Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
11 Robin VAN PERSIE
26 Nicklas BENDTNER
13 Alexander HLEB
32 Theo WALCOTT
2 Abou DIABY
15 DENILSON
8 Lassana DIARRA
27 Emmanuel EBOUE
4 Cesc FABREGAS
16 Mathieu FLAMINI
19 GILBERTO
6 Philippe SENDEROS
31 Justin HOYTE
3 Bacary SAGNA
5 Kolo TOURE
22 Gael CLICHY
 
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